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ecguy24
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 Posted - 08/16/2009 : 19:38:04
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| i was at the east cobb tryouts 14 year olds and i was hearing lots of rumors about who will be the top teams and none of the stories were the same. i'm hearing about the number 2 teams being the express, titans, stallions, and longhorns. i just wannt to hear a lot of opinions. |
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Infinity
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Posted - 08/18/2009 : 07:01:38
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| Hey Leftypitcher, I don't have a dog in this fight however I think you are misled....I think several of the top teams at ECB (#2 & #3) will be holding a spot or two open for the guys that don't make the Astros final cut. There is not enough talent for 3 ECB teams to have 20 to 25 kids on their fall roster. |
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sdrhitman4
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Posted - 08/18/2009 : 09:11:52
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| Infinity, you are 100% correct on that statement. There are only 2 teams that are carrying that many players. |
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mrump
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Posted - 08/18/2009 : 11:17:10
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Guys...as long as they kids are being developed and playing up with higher level players during the fall then why is this such a bad thing? I would want my players to play a fall schedule with the Astros or Titans so they can improve their skills and then in return make my team better from it.
I call them like I see them... |
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baseballnation
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Posted - 08/20/2009 : 09:42:57
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| 20-25 kids on a Fall team. Good instruction to all 20-25 kids. Seriously do you believe that can happen?? |
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whits23
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Posted - 08/20/2009 : 11:02:04
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look at the bright side they can field 4 teams between the 2 of them and have a round robin tournament for free if they stay in approved hotels ;)
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Originally posted by baseballnation
20-25 kids on a Fall team. Good instruction to all 20-25 kids. Seriously do you believe that can happen??
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ECB_Insider
54 Posts |
Posted - 08/23/2009 : 20:54:14
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The Astros won't carry that many. There were not even that many that showed up for their workout today. Several of the players today will be cut and they will probably take 20 players through the fall to get down to 14-15 for the spring.
As for the Titan's, the word has been they have been looking at 20 or so players but those range from AAA players to low major. Not really any elite players in the bunch, which is probably going to make cutting players a little more difficult. I think they are hoping to get some of the cut players from the Astros, but so are several other teams. |
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ECB_Insider
54 Posts |
Posted - 08/25/2009 : 09:45:15
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Looks like things are starting to fall into place. The EC Longhorns and Stallions have posted their rosters now. If I am not mistaken the Astros have thinned their roster down to the 14 they will carry through the fall.
I would expect other teams to start falling into place as well. Looks like the Longhorns and Stallions will have strong teams again this year. Rumor has it the EC Braves have improved as well. I also believe the EC Express (last year's SW Express) has significantly improved too.
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crackedbats
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Posted - 08/25/2009 : 10:28:23
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| Express isnt really last years SW Express. Only one player from that team is on this team. The team has more Combat players as the building blocks. Sounds like they will be solid. |
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mammabee
95 Posts |
Posted - 08/25/2009 : 10:49:57
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Now I really have to ask you all out there
Why will anyone put their child of a team of 20 or 25 when by fall only 15 or 16 can stay ?
Unless truthfuly at the top level of team its a risk to be cut out then left into winter without a team in spring unless you are a established top level player when you dont get cut out any how.
Have to consider and is dependent on the ethics of Coach for a team doing this
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Originally posted by ECB_Insider
The Astros won't carry that many. There were not even that many that showed up for their workout today. Several of the players today will be cut and they will probably take 20 players through the fall to get down to 14-15 for the spring.
As for the Titan's, the word has been they have been looking at 20 or so players but those range from AAA players to low major. Not really any elite players in the bunch, which is probably going to make cutting players a little more difficult. I think they are hoping to get some of the cut players from the Astros, but so are several other teams.
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playhard
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Posted - 08/25/2009 : 12:15:10
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| Looking at the ECB Astros roster Dave did a great job picking his team. Great group of young mens. Will be a very hard team to beat. |
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ECB_Insider
54 Posts |
Posted - 08/25/2009 : 15:00:30
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mammabee,
That is a good question which may have answered itself because maybe only the Titans are still sitting with that option. To your point, why would you put your son at the risk of being cut later in the fall and having to find a team in the winter. I would say that the ones willing to do that believe their kid has a good chance of surviving the cut, whether that is practical thinking or not. The more clustered the talent level is within the group, the more people are willing to hang on. I am glad to see that some of these teams are settling out with 13-15 players rather than stringing 5 or 6 on through the fall. |
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bballman
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Posted - 08/25/2009 : 16:30:46
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| I would think if you are good enough for the Astros to consider you, you are good enough to make one of the other teams for the spring. Astros do not take kids that are at the AAA or lower levels. |
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ECB_Insider
54 Posts |
Posted - 08/25/2009 : 20:52:33
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| True, but the next options, most times, have already solidified their rosters. You have to find a team that still has a spot open. Many times that could be an option further down your list. It is always a gamble. Just requires parents to have a really good idea of where their kid fits and the probability they will make the team. |
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Columnist
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Posted - 08/26/2009 : 09:55:58
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Originally posted by playhard
Looking at the ECB Astros roster Dave did a great job picking his team. Great group of young mens. Will be a very hard team to beat.
Nothing against Dave because he's a good guy. But saying he did a good job picking his team is like saying I did a good job of picking out a steak at Longhorn Steakhouse last weekend. |
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ECB_Insider
54 Posts |
Posted - 08/26/2009 : 11:25:29
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Columnist,
Wouldn't you compare the picking of players for the Astros, this year, to being more like eating at the "Brazilian Steak House" where they bring as much of the meat to the table as you want? 
You just have to decide when you are full.
Looking at that list of players on their website, all you can say is "Wow". |
Edited by - ECB_Insider on 08/26/2009 15:22:00 |
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playhard
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Posted - 08/26/2009 : 13:36:22
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| He had to make some very hard chooses. He cut some very good ball players this year that was on the 13U Astros team last year. |
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Dr. Old School
314 Posts |
Posted - 08/26/2009 : 19:17:59
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Originally posted by playhard
He had to make some very hard chooses. He cut some very good ball players this year that was on the 13U Astros team last year.
I am not sure your facts are quite right on that last statement. I believe the player you are referring to made the team but chose more playing time elsewhere.
However, your statement that he had to cut some good players that wanted on the team, was correct. One drove 5 hrs from West Tn. to try out for the team. |
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loveforthegame25
448 Posts |
Posted - 08/26/2009 : 19:42:53
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| I think i have a pretty good handle on the kids in the area, look up and down the 14U rosters at EC. I would say 90 percent of the Major talent are on those rosters for sure. and I dont think any of the 13U end of the year roster got "cut" |
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brownie1
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Posted - 08/26/2009 : 22:53:57
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| You are correct - none of the Astros 13u got cut. All of them went to 14U with the exception of 3 - 1 moved to Fla, 1 chose to play for Stallions & not sure what happened to the other one. There were a lot of great players at the workout on Sunday. But - it was obvious by the end of the workout - that all of the "non" Astros didn't stand much of a chance. The 14U team consists of the 13U team(with the exception of 3) & 4 other "hand-picked" players (2-Vipers, 1-Bulldog & 1-14 yr old?) Just don't understand why the 8-9 players that got cut were even subjected to the entire thing. He obviously knew before Sunday that he wasn't going to take any of them. Are there no baseball coaches left with integrity?? |
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ECB_Insider
54 Posts |
Posted - 08/26/2009 : 23:00:04
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gamefan,
There are always players that get to the next level without going through the East Cobb program. However, there is no more visible program in this area that can get a player seen, particularly within the Astros program. The program is designed to have the players qualify for a college scholarship. You can do the work yourself, outside the program, or you can use the assistance of the program. It is each player's decision to decide. The program is heavily tied in with GA and GA Tech, not to mention other major D1 schools. |
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coachdan06
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Posted - 08/27/2009 : 01:59:20
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Originally posted by loveforthegame25
I think i have a pretty good handle on the kids in the area, look up and down the 14U rosters at EC. I would say 90 percent of the Major talent are on those rosters for sure. and I dont think any of the 13U end of the year roster got "cut"
can I check your math?
if 90% of the Major players are in one park of what 9 or 10 teams then doesnt that allow only about 2 or 3 other teams in town to be Major? 
speaking for our south end of town there are some pretty good teams here also many good teams west and northwest of town . Probably north of town too.
how they all doing it with few Major players ? |
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ballgranny
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Posted - 08/27/2009 : 08:11:08
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| loveforthegame25 Are you saying that 90% of the Major talent in the Atlanta area is at ECB in the 14u major bracket? |
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ECB_Insider
54 Posts |
Posted - 08/27/2009 : 10:46:12
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If you look at USSSA Major teams and their "In Class" record there are only 9 teams that proved they were major:
Teams Record
PC Vipers (28-6)
East Cobb Astros 13U (27-3)
Bulldog Baseball (16-7)
Team Gwinnett (16-11)
East Cobb Combat (14-11)
5-Tool Nationals (10-3)
Outlaws Baseball (9-6)
East Cobb Stallions (8-5)
All other teams had losing records against other Major teams. The only point to this is, some of these teams are EC teams, some are not.
The big question this year is how many of the top players from some of the non-EC teams have moved over to EC. |
Edited by - ECB_Insider on 08/27/2009 10:58:33 |
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brownie1
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Posted - 08/27/2009 : 10:47:55
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| ECBInsider, I have it from a very knowledegable source that the only age in which it really matters if you play at EC is in high school. That is when colleges, scouts, etc are looking at you. And ... it does not really matter which team at EC. Sure the Astros are considered "the team" to be on but all the other teams at 15,16,17 & 18 get looked at too. As long as your team is playing in the major tournaments you will get seen by anyone that matters - as much as a player on the Astros. Also - when it comes to high school age summer teams - there are good teams all over Georgia that have produced top quality athletes that have gone on to play college & pro ball. |
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loveforthegame25
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Posted - 08/27/2009 : 11:50:40
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| Granny, YES. In the area. An hour surrounding EC |
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