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resumetoproveit
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Posted - 03/28/2012 : 09:22:54
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To take an angle on the team jumping topic. What about paid coaches?
What types are out there? What about the 'lone wolf' coach that sets his team and does not recruit unless injury bug falls?
What about the coach that favors the kids doing lessons wth him? Or takes bribes under the table?
Business understood but fair? Pressure to win!
Some do not act professional with thier words, dip etc.... Some do very much so act buttoned up and professional.[
If your paying $200/mo plus share of travel expenses for the coach should that not include specific attentnion to areas the players need to work on? Is it just a way to land somne serious loot? I have a very good handle on things in our area and would like to get the bloggers thoughts on this. |
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T13
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Posted - 03/28/2012 : 14:44:37
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Paid coaches and paying for more than a few lessons is a waste of your money! Watch a few lessons and than go throw with your kid in your yard.... |
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BangTheBox
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Posted - 03/28/2012 : 14:49:52
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There are paid programs that have fathers with experience coaching (our current model). Money is collected monthly to cover tournaments and various fees and big end of season tournaments.
There are coaches that are paid a monthly rate and some but not all have their "Endless Summer" paid for with lodging, travel reimbursement and food.
We are run our team in the former manner. This tends to leave monies for the parents to get private lessons should they choose.
Anything over $150 is too much to pay. If you are at the $200 level that should include built in lessons for your player. Otherwise you are getting ripped off. No way you should have to spend even more money for lessons. But many paid coaches, not all, do this and give the nod to the kid that has parents paying the car note.
Many of the paid coaches we know are all talk, egomaniacal team dictators. They will have you believing they are the only egress to getting your kid to the next level. There is a high level of burn out with the players of programs like this. You need to find a balance. Many are looking for the BBD or the bigger better deal and will add/delete to keep winning to keep their product viable. On the other side of that is parents who have the means to intercede and get their way for little johnny to play a premier spot and never come off the field. Funny thing is this type of coach does not do it for the right reasons and really does not care as it is his way or the highway.
You have to select what fits you and your child's needs. Many feel that non paid coaches with experience is enough until 13 years of age. But you have to watch out for bad habits that can be hard to fix. Talk to the paid coach get a feel. They usually show their true colors in the initial meet. If not, they will shortly. Do not be afraid to leave if you have issue. You are paying for a service. The customer is always right even in the loco world of travel ball parenting.
quote: Originally posted by bballguy
As a player or parent, what are your expectations from a paid coach?
Are you getting value for the extra $1000 or so that you are paying to be on a team with a paid coach?
Would that money be better spent on private lessons once a week?
Our family is unsure about all of this.
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rippit
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Posted - 03/28/2012 : 15:00:48
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Hmmmm. Dip may not be professional, but it sure is a baseball epidemic. Be happy your coach isn't showing up with a cooler of beer like Coach Butterfinger (or whatever his name was) in the Bad News Bears.
As to private lessons, I don't know of anything other than hitting, pitching and I've seen some cacther's instruction. Don't know of lessons on fielding, catching fly balls, leading off/stealing/sliding etc. and so forth. That HAS to come with practice and games, games, and more games.
Your coach is probably working on situational things in practice which is done with the whole team. If you think your player isn't getting some attention in one particular area, have him ask the coach to stay a little longer and just work one on one with that particular thing.
Paid coaches take the daddy ball factor away unless they are a jerk who takes money under the table. You need to appreciate the lone wolf who picks his team and sticks with it. He's working on those 12,14 or 15 kids and believes in them enough to run with what he's got.
If you think you can do a better job than the paid coach, then by all means go put a team together and coach it. Unfortunately, we hear all too often that "my son doesn't listen to me anymore and I don't want to coach him" at about age 12. So, your choices are : 1-paid coach or 2-some other dad who will favor his son over yours.
I'm rambling now, but try asking your son how he feels about things - if you aren't able to tell by watching him.
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RACGOFAR
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Posted - 03/28/2012 : 15:29:29
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Hiring a paid coach is like buying diamonds. All diamonds look pretty and all have some initial appeal when you shine the light on them. But there are different grades of Diamonds, different colors, sizes, and there are even name brands. In the end its a blind item purchase. You do your homework, research the quality level and different grades of diamonds, understand what type of diamond you want and can afford and whether it suits your purpose. You should look at more than few different kinds, styles and sizes and shop around. Eventually you will discover through this process what type diamond you want and can afford, and you may just decide that you really don't need a diamond at all and just need to polish up the one that you already have with a new setting. You can find good diamonds from just about anywhere. |
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tae281
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Posted - 03/28/2012 : 23:00:24
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We hired a paid coach this year for a variety of reasons and all in all it's working out really well. 1st reason is we were seeking a higher level of instruction, getting development to get the kids ready for the upper age groups and the big field. 2nd, we wanted an impartial judge of our teams talent, make all baseball related decisions that way it's 100% on him and the term daddy ball couldn't come into play.
There is obviously a learning process of each of the players talents and capabilities but that comes rather quickly after a few tournaments or scrimmage games. So, for our team the paid coach was worth it and is something we will look to do next season as well. |
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