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Stinger1
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 Posted - 03/15/2012 : 07:43:04
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| Tonywellis is correct in the aspect you would most likely play a Cobb Co. team in the championship game especially in a Triple Crown tourney. I would like to note - northern teams (north of I-20) out number southern teams probably 5-1. I don't care where you are from and what state you are from - ANYTHING can happen at the 9U level at any given time. As far as north or south all these teams listed have won and lost against each other. Maybe a brewing of north vs south tourney is in order...? I think that would be fun.... |
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C. MORTON
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Posted - 03/15/2012 : 11:35:01
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I think all the Cobb folks need to relax and let the field tell who is the top. If they take 10 teams to each bracket over all the best the G2 could finish is 11the place. Sounds like to me everyone should just play ball and let the chips fall where they fall. These young players come out on the weekends to play ball and some
Of you just seem to want to knock the next man down. If someone didn't have their best players and still played why make excuses of why you didn't win? Play ball and be glad that you competed. There is plenty of baseball left for you to prove how good your team is or is not.
I thought these boards were meant for open discourse. I wasn't trying to knock anybody down. I was just stating my opinion and responding to smiths1's rebuttal. Please notice also that I did not include our team in the aforementioned group of CC teams either. Why so touchy?
Not touchy at all as I am not from Cobb. That was a blanket statement that was for all teams. I wasn't addressing you or anyone directly. It's more like if the shoe fits wear it. This is 9yr old baseball and next year most of these teams will be different as everyone will be looking for the next stud to fill their ranks. |
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tonywellis
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Posted - 03/15/2012 : 14:04:25
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Tonywellis, you can only play and try to beat who is put before you by the vagaries of the draw. That particular team, by your definition, becomes "the man" you need to beat regardless of what stage in a tournament you are in.
Certainly there's a lot of strategy involved in deciding when to use pitchers and for how many innings but it was clear last weekend that every team was doing it's best to win every game because winning is what you try to do. You try to "clean house" as you put it from the first game onwards.
Should you happen to lose and end up in a lower bracket, then you readjust and start again albeit it at a different level. Making excuses about "tough draws" makes no sense at all given your argument and inferring that for some teams simply making it to the gold bracket is a kind of victory in itself is very condescending to the players and their coaches. Not to say hilariously, ridiculously inaccurate. These are 8 and 9 year olds out there playing their hearts out in a game they love and doing their best to win. We should all be proud of them....but let's not allow "feelings" to get in the way shall we?
Going back to our experience last weekend it's a truism that depth in pitching is absolutely critical to winning games. The outcome against East Cobb would certainly have been different with the kind of pitching we are capable of...not saying we would have won it but it would have been significantly closer. In all other areas of the game they had the edge, no question, but it's not an unassailable chasm and we will continue to improve and compete with humility and passion as will all the other wonderful teams out there (regardless of which county they are from).
The reason it is called a draw...is because it is the luck of the draw. If we pull Acworth and the EC Titans in the pool, then it is highly unlikely we are going to the Gold Bracket. That's not an excuse. It's a fact based on previous experience. If we pull two teams we have beaten consistently in the past, then not only are we going to the Gold bracket. We are also going to be a high seed in the Gold Bracket. Most likely. The key here is to have enough left in the tank to make the best game of it come Sunday night if you are forutnate enough to make the Championship.
Take the two examples above and tie pitching decisions in. Acworth and EC are going to see out best pitchers. If we get an easier draw, then our better pitchers will be saved for bracket play. If we send our best up against Acworth and EC and STILL make the Gold bracket, then your darn tootin there is going to be some bragging. Who isn't happy to make the Gold Bracket? Average Joe Ball Coach is going to brag about it including myself.....especially if the competition is stiff. If I am coaching a Double A team in Major tournament and make the Gold bracket, then that in itself is a trophy of sorts. There is nothing condescending, hilarious, or ridiculous about that at all.
Not sure why we are bringing the kids into this discussion. It's a given that most kids playing travel baseball have a passion for it and are playing their hearts out. I never said a word about the kids or even inferred anything.
Fans of SEC Baseball and ACC Baseball get into the same kind of 'discussions'. Most of the time it is passion for a particular team or the sport overall. Rarely does it have anything to with the players or the coach. That's what I thought this was. I apologize if I hurt someones feelings. |
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smiths1
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Posted - 03/16/2012 : 00:17:52
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| Tonywellis. No need to apologize and I appreciate your response and agree that it's very much luck of the draw when it comes to tournaments and where you end up. I think for me it was the inference that there is no competition in 9u outside of the Cobb County teams...everyone else is just making up the numbers. I agree the CC teams have a lot of quality players but I feel the difference is they have two or three more than everyone else. When it comes to individual skills in pitching, hitting and catching I don't see a big gulf in quality. I also think the CC teams are very well disciplined and organized so the mental errors are kept to a minimum. Again, this makes all the difference. |
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C. MORTON
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Posted - 03/18/2012 : 08:35:45
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Smiths1,
You are correct in saying that there is competition outside of CC. There just aren't as many teams and some of the choice of players is limited. But we still play baseball like everyone else. It's baseball at the end of the day. We work with what we have and try to compete with whoever steps on the field. I love watching some of the CC teams and playing them as it only makes us better as a team. |
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Stinger1
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Posted - 03/27/2012 : 10:01:02
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| Another Triple Crown tourney this weekend - we will be there - along with the HP Chilidogs - should be another interesting tournament. It almost worthy of a north vs. south display based on the teams in it. The boys are excited.... |
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