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ecbpappi

244 Posts

Posted - 02/21/2012 :  10:05:04  Show Profile
12U schedule is out, most of the teams have tough schedules to make it to the "top flight bracket"

1 Wed 2/22/2012 6:00 PM ECB Field 4 [GA] East Cobb Phillies VS. [GA] Alpharetta A's
2 Wed 2/22/2012 8:00 PM ECB Field 4 [GA] East Cobb Diamondbacks VS. [GA] east cobb select bulldogs
3 Wed 2/22/2012 8:00 PM ECB Field 6 [GA] 6-4-3 DP Cougars VS. [GA] East Cobb Spartans
4 Fri 2/24/2012 6:00 PM ECB Field 4 [GA] East Cobb Astros VS. [GA] Alpharetta Titans
5 Fri 2/24/2012 6:00 PM ECB Field 6 [GA] East Cobb Phillies VS. [GA] East Cobb Spartans
6 Fri 2/24/2012 8:00 PM ECB Field 4 [GA] East Cobb Stars VS. [GA] East Cobb Warriors
7 Fri 2/24/2012 8:00 PM ECB Field 6 [GA] Smash Baseball VS. [GA] East Cobb Diamondbacks
8 Sat 2/25/2012 10:00 AM ECB Field 4 [GA] East Cobb Rays VS. [GA] Sandy Plains Wildcats
9 Sat 2/25/2012 10:00 AM ECB Field 6 [GA] Alpharetta A's VS. [GA] east cobb select bulldogs
10 Sat 2/25/2012 12:00 PM ECB Field 4 [GA] 6-4-3 DP Cougars VS. [GA] East Cobb Rays
11 Sat 2/25/2012 12:00 PM ECB Field 6 [GA] Sandy Plains Wildcats VS. [GA] RBA Titans Baseball
12 Sat 2/25/2012 2:00 PM ECB Field 4 [GA] Alpharetta Titans VS. [GA] Elite Gamers
13 Sat 2/25/2012 2:00 PM ECB Field 6 [GA] East Cobb Braves VS. [GA] PSDS Yankees
14 Sat 2/25/2012 2:00 PM ECB Field 8 [GA] Bogan Blackhawks VS. [GA] East Cobb Astros
15 Sat 2/25/2012 4:00 PM ECB Field 4 [GA] Elite Gamers VS. [GA] East Cobb Stars
16 Sat 2/25/2012 4:00 PM ECB Field 6 [GA] East Cobb Braves VS. [GA] Bogan Blackhawks
17 Sat 2/25/2012 4:00 PM ECB Field 7 [GA] RBA Titans Baseball VS. [GA] Smash Baseball
18 Sat 2/25/2012 4:00 PM ECB Field 8 [GA] East Cobb Warriors VS. [GA] PSDS Yankees



rakin

32 Posts

Posted - 02/21/2012 :  12:33:46  Show Profile
Astros finally getting into the mix? Hard to go against them, but first tourney of the year; they will need an adjustment period.

Braves and RBA Titans in finals.
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oldschooldad

203 Posts

Posted - 02/21/2012 :  17:47:54  Show Profile
quote:
Originally posted by rakin

Astros finally getting into the mix? Hard to go against them, but first tourney of the year; they will need an adjustment period.

Braves and RBA Titans in finals.



11u Astro's if I am not mistaken.
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Spartan4

913 Posts

Posted - 02/21/2012 :  20:16:59  Show Profile
WOW....the EC Rays and Sandy Plains Wildcats got some tough draws....
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SMASH

253 Posts

Posted - 02/23/2012 :  10:02:43  Show Profile
Who was at the park last night? What did you see? Anything interesting? Appeared to be 3 good games.
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ecbpappi

244 Posts

Posted - 02/23/2012 :  18:18:01  Show Profile
A couple of mild upsets last night but when you bat all 11 or 12 kids it's not an upset. It'll be interesting to see if teams change that philosophy when they fail to make the top brackets on Sunday, TC has 3 brackets next weekend so even going 1-1 won't get you in.
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Catch3dad

90 Posts

Posted - 02/24/2012 :  08:51:09  Show Profile
quote:
Originally posted by ecbpappi

A couple of mild upsets last night but when you bat all 11 or 12 kids it's not an upset. It'll be interesting to see if teams change that philosophy when they fail to make the top brackets on Sunday, TC has 3 brackets next weekend so even going 1-1 won't get you in.



Upsets? This is the first big event of the season!

Just because your kid's team loses a game, it not an upset.

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BravesFan

533 Posts

Posted - 02/24/2012 :  09:13:54  Show Profile
some were touting 643 as ready for prime time based on some fall results but now they will be hard pressed to make the top flight bracket so yes, that is an upset in my book. imho, I don't see the Braves winning this tournament, the 11U Astros might be the best team in it.

and btw, I hate the multiple bracket approach in open tournaments cause it places too much emphasis on pool game match ups and winning those pool games. I understand the other side but that is what you get when you enter an open event, just my .02 cents

Edited by - BravesFan on 02/24/2012 09:44:26
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tommynole99

48 Posts

Posted - 02/24/2012 :  09:50:29  Show Profile
any one have the link for scores
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peashooter

297 Posts

Posted - 02/24/2012 :  09:54:25  Show Profile
643 picked up another bomb hitter this year. He should get get 20 HR's based on how he did for me last year and improvement.
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Beaux

23 Posts

Posted - 02/24/2012 :  10:18:21  Show Profile
I think it might be prudent to wait until we actually play couple of tournaments before we crown all the ECB teams as the best in this age group. I might be going out on a limb by saying that this collection of 12 U teams might have as much parity as any recent years. Now I am not saying that some of the ECB teams are not worthy of their reputations, but in my simple opinion, I would expect this year we see a lot of non-ECB teams to be in the finals and actually winning a lot of these tournaments. Just my two cents. Personally I like the multiple brackets tournaments, it makes every team have to show up on every game. It's going to be a fun year!
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ecbbraves

113 Posts

Posted - 02/24/2012 :  10:29:46  Show Profile
quote:
Originally posted by BravesFan

some were touting 643 as ready for prime time based on some fall results but now they will be hard pressed to make the top flight bracket so yes, that is an upset in my book. imho, I don't see the Braves winning this tournament, the 11U Astros might be the best team in it.

and btw, I hate the multiple bracket approach in open tournaments cause it places too much emphasis on pool game match ups and winning those pool games. I understand the other side but that is what you get when you enter an open event, just my .02 cents



The only reason we went with a split bracket for this event was because it is a Feb. tournament and no team is probably ready to use 7-8 games of pitching in a weekend. 6 games may even be a stretch. These 11-12yr old arms are super fragile right now and a Feb. win is not worth the risk of missing the rest of the season. I think anyone can argue that no matter where everyone ends up getting seeded both brackets will be very competitive as evident with the games this past Wed.
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Gamer64

17 Posts

Posted - 02/24/2012 :  10:54:19  Show Profile
I am not so sure that 6-4-3 losing to the ECB Spartans is that big of an upset. Saw them play last weekend in Sandy Plains tournament and they are much improved from last year's team. Basically a new team with only 4 players from last year's squad. They had very good pitching and good bats as well.
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diamonddad

59 Posts

Posted - 02/24/2012 :  14:57:11  Show Profile
quote:
Originally posted by tommynole99

any one have the link for scores


http://www.usssa.com/sports/PoolStandings.asp?TournyID=808585&Pool2Get=0
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ecbpappi

244 Posts

Posted - 02/24/2012 :  15:47:29  Show Profile
quote:
Originally posted by Gamer64

I am not so sure that 6-4-3 losing to the ECB Spartans is that big of an upset. Saw them play last weekend in Sandy Plains tournament and they are much improved from last year's team. Basically a new team with only 4 players from last year's squad. They had very good pitching and good bats as well.


said it was a mild upset not a big one and I think most would agree.
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cnettles

36 Posts

Posted - 02/24/2012 :  17:47:03  Show Profile
Braves Fan: with some of the teams in this tourney..i/e--braves, titans, elite gamers, smash, sandy plains & rays just to name a few--to say the 11u astros might be the best team in this tournament...can you please share with us what you might have seen? thats a bold statement. that list of teams right there--if I'm not mistaken is mostly major teams...smash should be a major team with their showing from this past fall--should be a fun tournament...Braves Fan--i'll give you the 'Stros and i'll take the field!
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ecbpappi

244 Posts

Posted - 02/25/2012 :  22:19:09  Show Profile
quote:
Originally posted by cnettles

Braves Fan: with some of the teams in this tourney..i/e--braves, titans, elite gamers, smash, sandy plains & rays just to name a few--to say the 11u astros might be the best team in this tournament...can you please share with us what you might have seen? thats a bold statement. that list of teams right there--if I'm not mistaken is mostly major teams...smash should be a major team with their showing from this past fall--should be a fun tournament...Braves Fan--i'll give you the 'Stros and i'll take the field!


still think smash is a major team? Heck, SP and the Rays drew a tough schedule and both ended up 0-1-1 but with so many good teams it could of happened to anyone.

Like I said, fall doesn't amount to a hill of beans cause now everyone is at full strength with their spring team. Smash is a good AAA team but there is nothing wrong with that, gotta play the big boys some during the season.
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BballNut

73 Posts

Posted - 02/25/2012 :  22:57:49  Show Profile
With it being most teams first game of the season who looked good today? Any real surprises? I expected the Rays to do better. It'll probably still take a few games for everyone to get warmed up and baseball ready, but I'm sure the boys enjoyed being back on the fields today.

TC Spring Frost should be a lot of fun next weekend.
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cnettles

36 Posts

Posted - 02/26/2012 :  09:09:40  Show Profile
Ecbpappi: you're right. Fall really means nothing. Smash will upset some folks and you gotta give it to them they enter all the big events and play the big boys. How about the RBA Titans (Shiloh)? They're tearing through folks...let's see how they do in today's match vs the Braves. Great tournament.
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ecbinsider

318 Posts

Posted - 02/26/2012 :  21:45:56  Show Profile
quote:
Originally posted by ecbbraves

These 11-12yr old arms are super fragile right now and a Feb. win is not worth the risk of missing the rest of the season.


I think someone forgot to tell the coaches this cause I see at least 4 pitchers from 3 different teams who went 6 today.

Also coach, 1 bracket would of meant 1 more game for all except for 4 teams. Those 4 would of had to win 5 for the crown but those 4 would of been out quick anyway. I dont really care either way but those top teams in the lower flight bracket would of made it interesting on top.
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BballNut

73 Posts

Posted - 02/26/2012 :  22:32:16  Show Profile
Going 6 innings and way too many curveballs for "super fragile right now" in the February win that's not worth the risk.

quote:
Originally posted by ecbinsider

quote:
Originally posted by ecbbraves

These 11-12yr old arms are super fragile right now and a Feb. win is not worth the risk of missing the rest of the season.


I think someone forgot to tell the coaches this cause I see at least 4 pitchers from 3 different teams who went 6 today.

Also coach, 1 bracket would of meant 1 more game for all except for 4 teams. Those 4 would of had to win 5 for the crown but those 4 would of been out quick anyway. I dont really care either way but those top teams in the lower flight bracket would of made it interesting on top.

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rakin

32 Posts

Posted - 02/27/2012 :  00:20:52  Show Profile
quote:
Originally posted by ecbinsider

quote:
Originally posted by ecbbraves

These 11-12yr old arms are super fragile right now and a Feb. win is not worth the risk of missing the rest of the season.


I think someone forgot to tell the coaches this cause I see at least 4 pitchers from 3 different teams who went 6 today.

Also coach, 1 bracket would of meant 1 more game for all except for 4 teams. Those 4 would of had to win 5 for the crown but those 4 would of been out quick anyway. I dont really care either way but those top teams in the lower flight bracket would of made it interesting on top.



Last comment makes no sense; the "top four teams in the lower flight blah, blah....."! It was a great tournament! Those four teams had the same opportunity as the others to make the upper flight. Going to be some parity this year in 12U. If folks don't realize this, egos will be shattered and stubbornness will not allow them to enjoy the best 12U baseball in the country.
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BravesFan

533 Posts

Posted - 02/27/2012 :  08:15:14  Show Profile
quote:
Originally posted by Beaux

I think it might be prudent to wait until we actually play couple of tournaments before we crown all the ECB teams as the best in this age group.



Lets see, 3 out of the 4 teams in the finals of this tourney were ECB teams. At least in 12U the top 5 in state will probably have 3 teams in it, possibly 4 but only time will tell.

Braves were a well oiled machine but the margin of victory tells us parity is here and you will have to play well every game to win. I thought the Spartans looked really good, others included the Stars and the Rays made a nice run after a couple of very close pool games. Question now is can these teams get better moving forward? This is where superior coaching takes over and you see player development accelerated. All these teams have superior coaching some are dad but they all have at a min ex college players coaching.

Next weekend is another big one, the 1st TC tourney broken into 3 brackets. Pool games will be critical and with their pitching rules you must be deep with arms.

Edited by - BravesFan on 02/27/2012 08:55:54
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WGT

24 Posts

Posted - 02/27/2012 :  09:27:19  Show Profile
Insider,it was very "interesting" even w/o those top 4 teams from the lower bracket. Just because certain teams are "supposed" to be in the running every tournament doesn't mean they will be. It also doesn't mean that the teams who were in the upper bracket didn't deserve to be there, as the insinuation sounds. Quite the opposite.
quote:
Originally posted by ecbinsider

quote:
Originally posted by ecbbraves

These 11-12yr old arms are super fragile right now and a Feb. win is not worth the risk of missing the rest of the season.


I think someone forgot to tell the coaches this cause I see at least 4 pitchers from 3 different teams who went 6 today.

Also coach, 1 bracket would of meant 1 more game for all except for 4 teams. Those 4 would of had to win 5 for the crown but those 4 would of been out quick anyway. I dont really care either way but those top teams in the lower flight bracket would of made it interesting on top.


Edited by - WGT on 02/27/2012 09:59:08
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JJJ

12 Posts

Posted - 02/27/2012 :  11:27:09  Show Profile
Shocker! Some teams seem to always out perform the predictions while other teams rarely live up to them. The more things change, the more they stay the same on this board.

Alparetta Titans in the finals. Who predicted that one?
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JMO

174 Posts

Posted - 02/27/2012 :  12:49:27  Show Profile
This all means nothing until rosters are frozen. Braves in final was no shocker, they had to burn their top pitcher all 6 innings to beat Shiloh. Rays had to bring in a Columbia County ace to beat Phillies, kid also went all 6. 11u astros are for real, but that is what happens when you pick the best 11year old kids in Georgia. They should be able to compete with 12u teams.
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