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Zach S 17
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 Posted - 08/06/2011 : 11:44:44
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| If I am looking for a new big barrel due to USSSA rules, what should I get that will last, have some good pop, and is not too expensive? |
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in_the_know
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Posted - 08/06/2011 : 15:45:15
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| Probably a bit too early to tell since there hasn't been alot of road testing done with the bats with the bpf 1.15/USSSA stamp. If I were you, I'd try to put off a new bat purchase until you can get some feedback of how bats are performing in the fall. |
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Shut Out
512 Posts |
Posted - 08/08/2011 : 08:19:11
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| unless your team is playing USSSA i wouldn't worry about the rules @ 13U |
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BaseballJunky12
49 Posts |
Posted - 09/22/2011 : 09:01:07
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| Triple Crown is also requiring stamp |
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delanceyj
13 Posts |
Posted - 09/23/2011 : 10:34:06
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| I got my 13u player a BBCOR.. Got the Rawlings Plasma for $100 on baseball savings site.. not bad so far.. |
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RRKnights
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Posted - 09/26/2011 : 17:21:25
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| They have that same new Plasma at Play it Again on Barrett new for $99 and no wait |
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RRKnights
16 Posts |
Posted - 10/05/2011 : 14:42:38
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| Has anyone tried the new approved Omen bats that are now out? If so, do they still have good pop or did the new regulations make them just another bat? |
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Bullpen@
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Posted - 10/07/2011 : 16:02:43
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| Research told me they are the same bats with just a stamp. They have a new 2012 bat coming out in nov. |
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BROOKSTEAM
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Posted - 10/08/2011 : 17:40:38
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The Senior League or big barrel bats are essentially the same. Many of the BPF 1.15 stamped bats have been out since May. The BBCOR bats are very different, I would highly caution any parent of a 14U or younger player from buying their child a BBCOR bat. It will put them at a dramatic disadvantage over any senior league bat.
*We (Elite Sports)carry the Rawlings Plasma and 5150 bats and will save you $$$ over any online or other local vendor
*New Easton bats are coming out in November, and Bullpen's statement is correct the bats will be the same
*For 13U players the first decision is what weight bat the player needs -5, -8 etc. Then making the decision comes a little easier. So for Zach, I would first ask what your son has been swinging and what type of hitter he is and then help you pick out the best bat.
Please call anytime 678-903-0024 or email me at ronald@elitesportseastcobb.com or click the button to the right to find my online page. |
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DecaturDad
619 Posts |
Posted - 10/10/2011 : 09:08:08
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ESEC,
For a big boy who swings a drop 5 for power, what bat would you reccommend? |
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BROOKSTEAM
145 Posts |
Posted - 10/10/2011 : 12:32:38
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Originally posted by DecaturDad
ESEC,
For a big boy who swings a drop 5 for power, what bat would you reccommend?
We have been trying out a lot of the new -5's lately. The heads of the -5's are probably very similar from most expensive to least since the walls are so much thicker that the lighter bats. I believe you can see very similar performance from top to bottom.
Here are my thoughts and recommendations:
Demarini Voodoo= probably a really nice bat, but because Demarini charges the same for the -5 as they do the BBCOR it seems over priced at $300 (full retail).
Louisville Slugger= they have the Exogrid and Omaha. The Exogrid swings a little lighter but again is more expensive. It also appears that the Louisville Bats have slightly smaller sweet spots than others.
Mariucci= Cat 5 seems similar albeit less expensive to the Exogrid in sweet spot size
Easton= Rival now called the XL3 -5. For sure the largest sweetspot, if you buy a Rival make sure to get it really cheaply (we are selling the few we have left for $125) and make sure to get the 2 5/8 and not the 2 3/4.
Rawlings= Plasma, at $110 full retail this is the best deal and it is a solid performing bat at -5.
Please call the store anytime if you have any questions 404-915-4898.
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JoeBraxton
9 Posts |
Posted - 10/10/2011 : 14:58:04
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| What about a BBCOR bat. What can you suggest Elite Sports? Is the new Louisville Slugger TPX really that much different than last years BESR? |
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BROOKSTEAM
145 Posts |
Posted - 10/11/2011 : 11:40:31
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Hi Joe,
The BBCOR bats last year in the hands of the College men dropped the overall NCAA power numbers by approx 30% in HR's, slugging, ball distance. The overall batting average also dropped but I think not as much. And again this is the hands of college players. With HS boys and even younger the offensive production will drop off even more. If a 14U player (or younger) takes a BBCOR bat in a tournament game where no one else has one they are at a tremendous disadvantage. This is for all brands across the board when comparing BBCOR to any BESR bat.
The worst part about this is a big strong 13u/14u players is going to have to swing a -5 or a BBCOR bat since none of the BESR bats (except in NATIONS Tournaments since they are not requiring the BPF 1.15 stamp) will have the BPF 1.15 stamp.
We have BBCOR and -5 demos if anyone wants to borrow and try out. Again please call me if you have any questions 678-903-0024 |
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Frozenrope
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Posted - 10/11/2011 : 12:42:26
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Thanks for all bat information. Can you answer a couple questions?
1-Marucci 2012 Black Series will be out November. Understand BBCOR will limit performance but any word regarding the -5 Marucci Black?
2-You mentioned in the above post, the Easton XL3 comes in a -5? Having trouble finding info on -5's.
Thanks again for the info. |
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DecaturDad
619 Posts |
Posted - 10/11/2011 : 14:06:10
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quote:
Originally posted by ESEC2100
If a 14U player (or younger) takes a BBCOR bat in a tournament game where no one else has one they are at a tremendous disadvantage. This is for all brands across the board when comparing BBCOR to any BESR bat.
The worst part about this is a big strong 13u/14u players is going to have to swing a -5 or a BBCOR bat since none of the BESR bats (except in NATIONS Tournaments since they are not requiring the BPF 1.15 stamp) will have the BPF 1.15 stamp.
That is exactly the delemma we are facing. My son is swinging a 33 drop 3. In order to get the "pop", he will need a drop 5. But then, if he stays with the BBCOR, he will be a step ahead come HS? |
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Gwinnett
791 Posts |
Posted - 10/11/2011 : 14:19:08
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DecaturDad, will those 2 ounces really matter as your son gets bigger, stronger and more experienced over the next season or two before HS? JMHO, but the bigger, stronger and more experience out weigh using a heavier bat now. Especially, when your talking about only 2 ounces. Use the -5 while you can then go heavier the next season. These kids grow a lot each season.
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Originally posted by DecaturDad
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Originally posted by ESEC2100
If a 14U player (or younger) takes a BBCOR bat in a tournament game where no one else has one they are at a tremendous disadvantage. This is for all brands across the board when comparing BBCOR to any BESR bat.
The worst part about this is a big strong 13u/14u players is going to have to swing a -5 or a BBCOR bat since none of the BESR bats (except in NATIONS Tournaments since they are not requiring the BPF 1.15 stamp) will have the BPF 1.15 stamp.
That is exactly the delemma we are facing. My son is swinging a 33 drop 3. In order to get the "pop", he will need a drop 5. But then, if he stays with the BBCOR, he will be a step ahead come HS?
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in_the_know
985 Posts |
Posted - 10/11/2011 : 14:40:04
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Technically, it's 3XL
http://www.justbats.com/product/easton-rival--bg3xl-senior-league/13525/
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Originally posted by Frozenrope
Thanks for all bat information. Can you answer a couple questions?
1-Marucci 2012 Black Series will be out November. Understand BBCOR will limit performance but any word regarding the -5 Marucci Black?
2-You mentioned in the above post, the Easton XL3 comes in a -5? Having trouble finding info on -5's.
Thanks again for the info.
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Frozenrope
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DecaturDad
619 Posts |
Posted - 10/11/2011 : 16:00:02
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Gwinnett,
I was thinking more that the BBCOR would be less forgiving and show any flaws, where the drop 5 may make a kid seem better then he is. I agree, two OSS will not really matter.
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Originally posted by Gwinnett
DecaturDad, will those 2 ounces really matter as your son gets bigger, stronger and more experienced over the next season or two before HS? JMHO, but the bigger, stronger and more experience out weigh using a heavier bat now. Especially, when your talking about only 2 ounces. Use the -5 while you can then go heavier the next season. These kids grow a lot each season.
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Originally posted by DecaturDad
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Originally posted by ESEC2100
If a 14U player (or younger) takes a BBCOR bat in a tournament game where no one else has one they are at a tremendous disadvantage. This is for all brands across the board when comparing BBCOR to any BESR bat.
The worst part about this is a big strong 13u/14u players is going to have to swing a -5 or a BBCOR bat since none of the BESR bats (except in NATIONS Tournaments since they are not requiring the BPF 1.15 stamp) will have the BPF 1.15 stamp.
That is exactly the delemma we are facing. My son is swinging a 33 drop 3. In order to get the "pop", he will need a drop 5. But then, if he stays with the BBCOR, he will be a step ahead come HS?
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Gwinnett
791 Posts |
Posted - 10/11/2011 : 22:17:16
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DecaturDad, your absolutly right! We do our REPS with BBCOR and then use other on game day. Yes, it is more forgiving and has lots more POP (1.15).
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Originally posted by DecaturDad
Gwinnett,
I was thinking more that the BBCOR would be less forgiving and show any flaws, where the drop 5 may make a kid seem better then he is. I agree, two OSS will not really matter.
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Originally posted by Gwinnett
DecaturDad, will those 2 ounces really matter as your son gets bigger, stronger and more experienced over the next season or two before HS? JMHO, but the bigger, stronger and more experience out weigh using a heavier bat now. Especially, when your talking about only 2 ounces. Use the -5 while you can then go heavier the next season. These kids grow a lot each season.
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Originally posted by DecaturDad
quote:
Originally posted by ESEC2100
If a 14U player (or younger) takes a BBCOR bat in a tournament game where no one else has one they are at a tremendous disadvantage. This is for all brands across the board when comparing BBCOR to any BESR bat.
The worst part about this is a big strong 13u/14u players is going to have to swing a -5 or a BBCOR bat since none of the BESR bats (except in NATIONS Tournaments since they are not requiring the BPF 1.15 stamp) will have the BPF 1.15 stamp.
That is exactly the delemma we are facing. My son is swinging a 33 drop 3. In order to get the "pop", he will need a drop 5. But then, if he stays with the BBCOR, he will be a step ahead come HS?
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toprank
138 Posts |
Posted - 10/13/2011 : 14:55:14
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| I have heard the Rawlings 5150 (33 inch) BBCOR bats are splitting this season. 34 inch are holding up. |
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HITANDRUN
436 Posts |
Posted - 10/18/2011 : 13:08:23
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ESEC2100
can you compare the (-5) Easton Rival with (-5) 5150 and (-5) Omaha, I assume EXO doesn't come in (-5)? Does the 5150 with USSSA Stamp? |
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HITANDRUN
436 Posts |
Posted - 10/21/2011 : 10:40:44
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| OK I guess too tough a question. Which -5 bat is most end loaded? |
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BROOKSTEAM
145 Posts |
Posted - 11/01/2011 : 12:08:10
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Hi, sorry I have not kept up with the posts. Please feel free to reach out to me anytime:
ronald@elitesportseastcobb.com
store# 678-903-0024
For the -5 bats we have found that the Easton Rival has probably the biggest sweet spot, and the Louisville Exo seems to swing the lightest (best balanced). The Rawlings -5 we have sold the most has been the Plasma because of it's low price. As the bats get heavier the performance variance from top to bottom is smaller because of the thicker walls. I would consider the 5150 (coming out soon), the Omaha, and the Easton Rival (soon to be the X3) to be very similar. We have sold a few of the Demarini Voodoo's and they seem also to be good performers but so much more expensive. |
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HITANDRUN
436 Posts |
Posted - 11/02/2011 : 16:04:28
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| Thanks, will be calling soon. |
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