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Cherokeeredstravelball

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Posted - 07/20/2011 :  14:44:00  Show Profile
Is it a requirement that boys move to a -3 weighted bat at the age of 13, or is this more of a guideline to prepare them for high school ball? I am confused by the USSSA rule that states that players 14u and below must use a -3 size bat if it is a big barrel. I can't see very many 8 or 9 year old players swinging a drop 3.

The rule reads as follows:
Beginning JANUARY 1, 2012, Big Barrel baseball bats (2#8541;” or 2¾”)
will be allowed in USSSA sanctioned play for 14U and below if, and only if, (1) they have the New USSSA Mark (see below) prominently and permanently displayed on their taper and are manufactured by an approved USSSA bat licensee (a list of these USSSA approved bat licensees is found on the USSSA/Baseball website), (2) is a "Qualified BBCOR Bat" ( a Big Barrel bat that is made by a USSSA approved bat licensee, has a BBCOR mark permanently attached to the bat that is recognized by NFHS as a legal bat for NFHS sanctioned play and has no more than a minus 3 ounces difference from the
length of the bat which bat must be at least 29 inches long
) or (3) is a Wood Bat manufactured by an approved USSSA bat licensee .

Can someone help clarify what the different organizations will enforce (outside of the new "composite" rules)?

rippit

667 Posts

Posted - 07/20/2011 :  15:44:03  Show Profile
Nightmare huh?

-3 has to be BBCOR. -5 and up carry the USSSA 1.15 BPF stamp.

13U doesn't have to use a -3. They can use -10 and under/over - not sure how to word that. 14U has to use -5 or -3. 15U and up/high school uses -3 only.

Still hearing rumors no one will enforce anything this fall for 14U and below. We are on deck with a wood bat until...
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C. MORTON

1051 Posts

Posted - 07/20/2011 :  15:58:06  Show Profile
Bats have to be one or the other depending on the age of the CHILD.. Those 14u and up will have to swing what they swing in high school, which is a -3 and must be BBCOR. the Younger ages need to have the new USSSA stamp on it. Think that what that means..
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AA17Dad

211 Posts

Posted - 07/21/2011 :  10:27:56  Show Profile
BBCORE bats are the only ones that have a weight V. Length limit for 14U in 2012 (-3)

The others ( non-BBCORE ) must have the new USSSA Stamp but have to weight/length requirements.......Thats how I read it.
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itsaboutbb

164 Posts

Posted - 07/21/2011 :  23:37:59  Show Profile
quote:
Originally posted by Cherokeeredstravelball

Is it a requirement that boys move to a -3 weighted bat at the age of 13, or is this more of a guideline to prepare them for high school ball? I am confused by the USSSA rule that states that players 14u and below must use a -3 size bat if it is a big barrel. I can't see very many 8 or 9 year old players swinging a drop 3.

The rule reads as follows:
Beginning JANUARY 1, 2012, Big Barrel baseball bats (2#8541;” or 2¾”)
will be allowed in USSSA sanctioned play for 14U and below if, and only if, (1) they have the New USSSA Mark (see below) prominently and permanently displayed on their taper and are manufactured by an approved USSSA bat licensee (a list of these USSSA approved bat licensees is found on the USSSA/Baseball website), (2) is a "Qualified BBCOR Bat" ( a Big Barrel bat that is made by a USSSA approved bat licensee, has a BBCOR mark permanently attached to the bat that is recognized by NFHS as a legal bat for NFHS sanctioned play and has no more than a minus 3 ounces difference from the
length of the bat which bat must be at least 29 inches long
) or (3) is a Wood Bat manufactured by an approved USSSA bat licensee .

Can someone help clarify what the different organizations will enforce (outside of the new "composite" rules)?




2011-2012 NEW USSSA BASEBALL BAT MARKS & GRANDFATHERING RULES
May 13, 2011
I. BIG BARREL BATS
A. JANUARY 1, 2012 14 U AND YOUNGER BIG BARREL BAT RULES. TO BE
LEGAL IN 2012 FOR USSSA 14U AND BELOW, A BIG BARREL BAT MUST
BE MANUFACTURERED BY AN APPROVED USSSA BAT LICENSEE AND
1) HAVE THE NEW USSSA MARK ON ITS TAPER, OR
2) BE A QUALIFIED BBCOR BAT, OR
3) BE A WOOD BAT.
There are no exceptions to this rule!!! Please note that only


What I am reading is if you use a BBCOR Bat that bat has a -3 only. All others have to have the USSSA Stamp on it.
This bat description came off a web site

Description for the Easton Rival XXL: BG10XL Senior League: The BG10XL features the USSSA 1.15 stamp and is legal for use in 2012! This past season, the Easton Rival burst on to the scene as THE HOTTEST new aluminum bat in senior league baseball. Drawing nothing but positive reviews, the Rival has quickly gained a loyal following. The Rival is a one-piece bat made from Easton's exclusive new THT100 Alloy. The THT100 Alloy has 100ksi strength and extraordinary toughness for superior dent and crack resistence. This bat features a stiff flex rating and low M.O.I. which means a lighter swing weight, faster swing speed, and better control. The Rival uses Easton's SST Technology which utilizes a one-piece barrel design with increased balance and control while increasing the trampoline effect of the MASSIVE sweetspot. And by massive, we're talking about THE BIGGEST sweetspot of any aluminum bat in the industry! Plus, the monster 2 3/4 Inch barrel of the Rival creates one of the largest hitting areas of any bat on the market. If you're looking for the best bang for your buck, get on the Easton Rival bandwagon today! Easton: Know-Feel-Be The Difference. This bat is backed by Easton's Exclusive 400 Day Manufacturer's Warranty. Free Shipping!
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rippit

667 Posts

Posted - 07/22/2011 :  10:20:34  Show Profile
The big question about the bat regs: does "2012" start Aug. 1st or Jan. 1st??

I know for age purposes it starts Aug. 1st. Just want a straight answer from some all knowing being at each of the following: USSSA, TC, Nations, GrandSlam and GSA. Any of you running independent tournaments on a regular basis feel free to chime in as well.
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itsaboutbb

164 Posts

Posted - 07/22/2011 :  10:56:02  Show Profile
quote:
Originally posted by itsaboutbb

quote:
Originally posted by Cherokeeredstravelball

Is it a requirement that boys move to a -3 weighted bat at the age of 13, or is this more of a guideline to prepare them for high school ball? I am confused by the USSSA rule that states that players 14u and below must use a -3 size bat if it is a big barrel. I can't see very many 8 or 9 year old players swinging a drop 3.

The rule reads as follows:
Beginning JANUARY 1, 2012, Big Barrel baseball bats (2#8541;” or 2¾”)
will be allowed in USSSA sanctioned play for 14U and below if, and only if, (1) they have the New USSSA Mark (see below) prominently and permanently displayed on their taper and are manufactured by an approved USSSA bat licensee (a list of these USSSA approved bat licensees is found on the USSSA/Baseball website), (2) is a "Qualified BBCOR Bat" ( a Big Barrel bat that is made by a USSSA approved bat licensee, has a BBCOR mark permanently attached to the bat that is recognized by NFHS as a legal bat for NFHS sanctioned play and has no more than a minus 3 ounces difference from the
length of the bat which bat must be at least 29 inches long
) or (3) is a Wood Bat manufactured by an approved USSSA bat licensee .

Can someone help clarify what the different organizations will enforce (outside of the new "composite" rules)?




2011-2012 NEW USSSA BASEBALL BAT MARKS & GRANDFATHERING RULES
May 13, 2011
I. BIG BARREL BATS
A. JANUARY 1, 2012 14 U AND YOUNGER BIG BARREL BAT RULES. TO BE
LEGAL IN 2012 FOR USSSA 14U AND BELOW, A BIG BARREL BAT MUST
BE MANUFACTURERED BY AN APPROVED USSSA BAT LICENSEE AND
1) HAVE THE NEW USSSA MARK ON ITS TAPER, OR
2) BE A QUALIFIED BBCOR BAT, OR
3) BE A WOOD BAT.
There are no exceptions to this rule!!! Please note that only


What I am reading is if you use a BBCOR Bat that bat has a -3 only. All others have to have the USSSA Stamp on it.
This bat description came off a web site

Description for the Easton Rival XXL: BG10XL Senior League: The BG10XL features the USSSA 1.15 stamp and is legal for use in 2012! This past season, the Easton Rival burst on to the scene as THE HOTTEST new aluminum bat in senior league baseball. Drawing nothing but positive reviews, the Rival has quickly gained a loyal following. The Rival is a one-piece bat made from Easton's exclusive new THT100 Alloy. The THT100 Alloy has 100ksi strength and extraordinary toughness for superior dent and crack resistence. This bat features a stiff flex rating and low M.O.I. which means a lighter swing weight, faster swing speed, and better control. The Rival uses Easton's SST Technology which utilizes a one-piece barrel design with increased balance and control while increasing the trampoline effect of the MASSIVE sweetspot. And by massive, we're talking about THE BIGGEST sweetspot of any aluminum bat in the industry! Plus, the monster 2 3/4 Inch barrel of the Rival creates one of the largest hitting areas of any bat on the market. If you're looking for the best bang for your buck, get on the Easton Rival bandwagon today! Easton: Know-Feel-Be The Difference. This bat is backed by Easton's Exclusive 400 Day Manufacturer's Warranty. Free Shipping!

Oh by the way this is a drop 10
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