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baseball papa
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 Posted - 04/22/2011 : 08:19:13
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| My friends from Florida have been awful quiet since the loss to the Bandits in Orange Beach. Where will they heading this week and what type competition will they find. They may still be a slot open in Tennessee if they have any money in the travel budget. It's not in 10BB to be quiet so when he's quiet Papa is worrying that he might have something up his sleeve (maybe a spitter). Let us know where you will be playing so we can try and keep up with you on the web. |
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Sox
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Posted - 04/22/2011 : 08:45:49
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| The Sandtown Red Sox play Team Florida and MBA Pride tomorrow in Lake city! |
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in_the_know
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Posted - 04/22/2011 : 09:04:57
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The Sandtown Red Sox play Team Florida and MBA Pride tomorrow in Lake city!
Sat 4/23/2011 9:00 AM [FLN] Team Florida VS. [FLS] BADBOYS BASEBALL
Sat 4/23/2011 9:00 AM [GA] Sandtown Red Sox VS. [FLS] Maitland Pride
Sat 4/23/2011 9:00 AM [GA] 6-4-3 DP Jaguars VS. [FLS] MBA Pride Elite
Sat 4/23/2011 11:00 AM [GA] Sandtown Red Sox VS. [FLN] Team Florida
Sat 4/23/2011 11:00 AM [GA] 6-4-3 DP Jaguars VS. [FLS] Maitland Pride
Sat 4/23/2011 11:00 AM [GA] 6-4-3 DP Cougars VS. [FLS] MBA Pride Elite
Sat 4/23/2011 1:00 PM [GA] 6-4-3 DP Cougars VS. [FLN] Team Florida
Sat 4/23/2011 1:00 PM [GA] 6-4-3 DP Jaguars VS. [FLS] BADBOYS BASEBALL
Sat 4/23/2011 3:00 PM [GA] Sandtown Red Sox VS. [FLS] MBA Pride Elite
Sat 4/23/2011 3:00 PM [GA] 6-4-3 DP Cougars VS. [FLS] BADBOYS BASEBALL
Sun 4/24/2011 9:00 AM [GA] Sandtown Red Sox VS. [FLS] BADBOYS BASEBALL
Sun 4/24/2011 9:00 AM [GA] 6-4-3 DP Cougars VS. [FLS] Maitland Pride
Sun 4/24/2011 11:00 AM [FLS] MBA Pride Elite VS. [FLS] Maitland Pride
Sun 4/24/2011 11:00 AM [GA] 6-4-3 DP Jaguars VS. [FLN] Team Florida
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10 BB
264 Posts |
Posted - 04/22/2011 : 09:50:32
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Papa;
Since you asked, TF is alot like a Nascar team. We got banged up in Orange Beach and are trying to get our team fixed and back on the right track!! We have some holes in our game as I guess you saw by losing to the Bandits 4 to 3 and allowing those runs all unearned! Passed balls by the catcher were uncalled for at this level when the game is on the line and I can gaurantee you he has been working with the High School team catching bp from the coaches and working on blocking.
We play in Lake city this weekend but still have a few problems. One of our top pitchers/leadoff hitter has 102 degree temp and is very sick and our leftfielder/3rd baseman is on crutches from an injury sustained in Orange Beach. We will have to see how this all plays out.
Thanks for being concerend about our team and the level of play we will be facing. We can only hope that some day we are half as good as the Bandits. |
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baseball papa
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Posted - 04/22/2011 : 15:40:10
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| Wow, This looks like a really strong tournament. Biz, You will need to be more than 1/2 as good as you plan on taking this one to the house. I wish the Bandits could have been there but we are taking some much needed R&R for Easter weekend. And by the way 4-3 is a lot more than 1/2. And let's not forget that the unearned ones count just as much as the earned ones on the scoreboard. |
Edited by - baseball papa on 04/22/2011 16:30:09 |
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G-Man
326 Posts |
Posted - 04/22/2011 : 16:00:41
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Papa the Bandits were asked to play in this Fla vs Ga tournament and at one time I saw them registered. Why are the Bandits no longer in this one?
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Originally posted by baseball papa
My friends from Florida have been awful quiet since the loss to the Bandits in Orange Beach. Where will they heading this week and what type competition will they find. They may still be a slot open in Tennessee if they have any money in the travel budget. It's not in 10BB to be quiet so when he's quiet Papa is worrying that he might have something up his sleeve (maybe a spitter). Let us know where you will be playing so we can try and keep up with you on the web.
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baseball papa
123 Posts |
Posted - 04/22/2011 : 16:36:14
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GMan: You are right in that the Bandits were originally scheduled to play in this event but when they changed the date to Easter Weekend it was decided that we could not play. This is the one and only weekend that we scheduled off and we really need the rest and this is a great weekend to get it.
10BB: Do you know if there is a website that will allow us to track the progress of this tournament. |
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CSUF Baseball
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Posted - 04/22/2011 : 20:30:00
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Originally posted by baseball papa
GMan: You are right in that the Bandits were originally scheduled to play in this event but when they changed the date to Easter Weekend it was decided that we could not play. This is the one and only weekend that we scheduled off and we really need the rest and this is a great weekend to get it.
10BB: Do you know if there is a website that will allow us to track the progress of this tournament.
http://www.usssa.com/sports/Bracket.asp?Type=Winners&Tournament=709426 |
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G-Man
326 Posts |
Posted - 04/23/2011 : 07:59:31
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| Should be a really good tournament. In this type tourney no one can save pitching since all the teams are solid. The winner of this tournament is the team with the deepest starting shutdown type pitchers. |
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baseball papa
123 Posts |
Posted - 04/23/2011 : 08:56:59
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| Go Georgia: You have a plate full of great teams to manuever through. Take them one game at a time and just play the best you can. |
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baseball papa
123 Posts |
Posted - 04/25/2011 : 09:26:54
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| Look's like MBA Pride won the 12U Georgia/Florida border battle. It's a fact that there a lot of great teams there and this was quite an accomplishment. 643 and Sandtown both represented Georgia well and my hat's off to all the teams that mixed it up in this first border skirmish of the season. |
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Tball
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Posted - 04/25/2011 : 17:15:55
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| Alot of great talent in both Ga. and Fl. Ga. definetly wins the play with class award. Great job Ga. |
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baseballnutz
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Posted - 04/25/2011 : 19:50:13
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| Well said Tball - I'm surprised there has been no mention of the 643 vs TF game. I guess I shouldn't be because the folks at 643 aren't going to come on here and bash anyone. But it was bad. |
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baseball papa
123 Posts |
Posted - 04/26/2011 : 07:51:54
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I think that if Papa had to define class he would define if as being able to be involved in a bad situation that you want so bad to tell the world that you was wronged but instead hold your tongue. You want to bash the people that bashed you, you want to yell and scream and curse just like they did at you. You want to be every bit the jerk that the other guy had been to you.
But the team that came with class leaves with class. They leave with their head held just as high going out the gate as it was held high coming in the gate. They say nothing but that does not mean that they will not remember. They do not complain or whine but they will remember.
Papa does not appear to have much class and if it was any other team involved I would be hanging from the rafter shouthing what I think and most of you know that I am not shy about yelling when it comes to having our kids backs. But in this case you will all be able to say that there was this one time that Papa seemed to have a little class and said nothing. |
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tuckersbo
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Posted - 04/26/2011 : 10:13:48
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PaPa, You know I very seldom say ANYTHING at all--but, I'm with you on this one. We entered with class; stayed quiet when they were pitching; and left with class.
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Originally posted by baseball papa
I think that if Papa had to define class he would define if as being able to be involved in a bad situation that you want so bad to tell the world that you was wronged but instead hold your tongue. You want to bash the people that bashed you, you want to yell and scream and curse just like they did at you. You want to be every bit the jerk that the other guy had been to you.
But the team that came with class leaves with class. They leave with their head held just as high going out the gate as it was held high coming in the gate. They say nothing but that does not mean that they will not remember. They do not complain or whine but they will remember.
Papa does not appear to have much class and if it was any other team involved I would be hanging from the rafter shouthing what I think and most of you know that I am not shy about yelling when it comes to having our kids backs. But in this case you will all be able to say that there was this one time that Papa seemed to have a little class and said nothing.
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G-Man
326 Posts |
Posted - 04/26/2011 : 18:29:58
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There are just certain things you DONT do in baseball as a player, coach or parent. There are so called unwritten rules that these young men may not be aware of but I am sure that any coach or parent who has played beyond little league should have a knowledge of these things.
I am sure all of us can remember those days when a coach would SCREAM OUT Go Go Go to a base runner with no other purpose than to get that young pitcher to balk. I am sure that all of at one time or another has seen an opposing team chanting at a pitcher to try and disturb his concentration. How many times have we all seen a batter prior to an inning starting warming up outside the on deck circle near the plate. How many teams have we seen running up a score on a weaker team. How many times have we seen a parent telling little Johnny where the catcher is setting up on the plate from the stands or behind the fence.
These are just a few of the more common things I think all of us see in the younger age groups that as they get older will call for in game justice which is just as much a part of the game of baseball as hitting, pitching and fielding a baseball. How are any of these young men suppose to know its WRONG if no one is teaching them it is. What example are we as knowledgable coaches and parents teaching these young men. Because if we dont teach them then at some point they will have to learn the hard way and when in game justice is exacted their first thought is going to be why did that pitcher put one in my earhole or why did that base runner come in to my base hard and cleat me when there was no reason to.
Sure they are all kids and should have fun but why not teach them to have fun with class. I know that some of you think I just post to bash certain teams. I know that some of you might think that I dont like 12u baseball with some of the things I have said in the past. Thats not true either. I speak my mind a lot because of the love and respect I have for baseball having played and coach from high school to college for almost 35 years and I sometimes just dont see the same respect of the game being passed on to these young men. |
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PANNI
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Posted - 04/27/2011 : 11:03:36
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I spoke personally with JC when he came to Lake City this week regarding the issue of the distraction during the pitch. He mentioned he realizes that this is a regional issue (meaning Florida I guess). From this past weekend, I noticed both of the 643 teams doing this very same thing. It was a non issue as far as I'm concerned. I hear nothing but great thing about 643's class and integrity, which BTW, I think they are coached very well other than the 'pitcher gives the ball to the 3B man hidden ball trick'. It really sends the message that the coach feels his team cannot win the game. But TF seems to get trashed week in and week out. I would like to have some debate on whether the two issues mentioned below are sportmanship issues or a etiquite issues.
1. Player draws a walk and goes down the 1B line clapping taunting the pithcer, clapping his hands saying 'the pitcher is melting down'
2. dugout making noise during pitch.
Both of the 2 incidents happened during the same game in ATL Super NIT, but no one has mentioned the 1st item, so I would like to hear input from all.
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Originally posted by tuckersbo
PaPa, You know I very seldom say ANYTHING at all--but, I'm with you on this one. We entered with class; stayed quiet when they were pitching; and left with class.
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Originally posted by baseball papa
I think that if Papa had to define class he would define if as being able to be involved in a bad situation that you want so bad to tell the world that you was wronged but instead hold your tongue. You want to bash the people that bashed you, you want to yell and scream and curse just like they did at you. You want to be every bit the jerk that the other guy had been to you.
But the team that came with class leaves with class. They leave with their head held just as high going out the gate as it was held high coming in the gate. They say nothing but that does not mean that they will not remember. They do not complain or whine but they will remember.
Papa does not appear to have much class and if it was any other team involved I would be hanging from the rafter shouthing what I think and most of you know that I am not shy about yelling when it comes to having our kids backs. But in this case you will all be able to say that there was this one time that Papa seemed to have a little class and said nothing.
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G-Man
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Posted - 04/27/2011 : 11:53:31
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Again no matter which team is doing it. This is wrong. If coaches are not correcting or addressing these type issues during a game or in practice then these young men dont know any better and will continue to do these things because they were not taught any better. However whether it be next year or the year after. In game justice will be exacted.
There is no room in the game of baseball to taunt a pitcher unless you have a wish to be earholed your next at bat.
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Originally posted by PANNI
I spoke personally with JC when he came to Lake City this week regarding the issue of the distraction during the pitch. He mentioned he realizes that this is a regional issue (meaning Florida I guess). From this past weekend, I noticed both of the 643 teams doing this very same thing. It was a non issue as far as I'm concerned. I hear nothing but great thing about 643's class and integrity, which BTW, I think they are coached very well other than the 'pitcher gives the ball to the 3B man hidden ball trick'. It really sends the message that the coach feels his team cannot win the game. But TF seems to get trashed week in and week out. I would like to have some debate on whether the two issues mentioned below are sportmanship issues or a etiquite issues.
1. Player draws a walk and goes down the 1B line clapping taunting the pithcer, clapping his hands saying 'the pitcher is melting down'
2. dugout making noise during pitch.
Both of the 2 incidents happened during the same game in ATL Super NIT, but no one has mentioned the 1st item, so I would like to hear input from all.
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Originally posted by tuckersbo
PaPa, You know I very seldom say ANYTHING at all--but, I'm with you on this one. We entered with class; stayed quiet when they were pitching; and left with class.
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Originally posted by baseball papa
I think that if Papa had to define class he would define if as being able to be involved in a bad situation that you want so bad to tell the world that you was wronged but instead hold your tongue. You want to bash the people that bashed you, you want to yell and scream and curse just like they did at you. You want to be every bit the jerk that the other guy had been to you.
But the team that came with class leaves with class. They leave with their head held just as high going out the gate as it was held high coming in the gate. They say nothing but that does not mean that they will not remember. They do not complain or whine but they will remember.
Papa does not appear to have much class and if it was any other team involved I would be hanging from the rafter shouthing what I think and most of you know that I am not shy about yelling when it comes to having our kids backs. But in this case you will all be able to say that there was this one time that Papa seemed to have a little class and said nothing.
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TAZ980002
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Posted - 04/27/2011 : 14:07:25
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Originally posted by PANNI
I spoke personally with JC when he came to Lake City this week regarding the issue of the distraction during the pitch. He mentioned he realizes that this is a regional issue (meaning Florida I guess). From this past weekend, I noticed both of the 643 teams doing this very same thing. It was a non issue as far as I'm concerned. I hear nothing but great thing about 643's class and integrity, which BTW, I think they are coached very well other than the 'pitcher gives the ball to the 3B man hidden ball trick'. It really sends the message that the coach feels his team cannot win the game. But TF seems to get trashed week in and week out. I would like to have some debate on whether the two issues mentioned below are sportmanship issues or a etiquite issues.
1. Player draws a walk and goes down the 1B line clapping taunting the pithcer, clapping his hands saying 'the pitcher is melting down'
2. dugout making noise during pitch.
Both of the 2 incidents happened during the same game in ATL Super NIT, but no one has mentioned the 1st item, so I would like to hear input from all.
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Originally posted by tuckersbo
PaPa, You know I very seldom say ANYTHING at all--but, I'm with you on this one. We entered with class; stayed quiet when they were pitching; and left with class.
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Originally posted by baseball papa
I think that if Papa had to define class he would define if as being able to be involved in a bad situation that you want so bad to tell the world that you was wronged but instead hold your tongue. You want to bash the people that bashed you, you want to yell and scream and curse just like they did at you. You want to be every bit the jerk that the other guy had been to you.
But the team that came with class leaves with class. They leave with their head held just as high going out the gate as it was held high coming in the gate. They say nothing but that does not mean that they will not remember. They do not complain or whine but they will remember.
Papa does not appear to have much class and if it was any other team involved I would be hanging from the rafter shouthing what I think and most of you know that I am not shy about yelling when it comes to having our kids backs. But in this case you will all be able to say that there was this one time that Papa seemed to have a little class and said nothing.
Actually Panni, I said "I guess it is a regional issue" because I really don't know. I was told by someone from FL that it is common for FL High School teams to yell while the other team is pitching. My oldest is 12 so I can't say that it doesn't happen in GA High Schools either.
I personally don't want to see any of our players taunting the opposing pitcher no matter how it might be done. These are 12 year old kids with the weight of the world on their shoulders when they take the mound, especially at the level Team FL and the Bandits play. I will always teach humility and sportsmanship to my boys no matter what the situation.
Thanks again to you and your coaches for taking the time to talk with me Saturday. |
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baseball4ever101
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Posted - 04/27/2011 : 17:00:48
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| I dont see anything wrong with the hidden ball trick or any other trick plays as i think they are a part of the game. So again if you ask me, trick plays are a part of the game. |
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baseball papa
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Posted - 04/27/2011 : 20:49:08
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Panni, Welcome to the big time. The better your team gets the more attention that they will garner. Even to the point of being put under a microscope and being second guessed for anything that you and team does. I am with G-Man on this one and feel strongly that at this age it is very bush league to do #1 or #2 of your example. The reason the other team did not get mentioned might be because they were not as well known as yourself.
I do not see much of the players in the dugout attempting to distract the pitcher by yelling during his delivery at the top of their lungs very much in Georgia but of course there is always the exception. You guys have a great team and do not need to resort to distracting a pitcher other than hammering the pitch when he delivers it. But if that is the way you choose to play then our next practice we will play something loud and long to prepare for our next meeting so we will be prepared one way or the other.
The Bandits are as guilty as anyone of being too emotional sometimes and early on we got hammered about the music but took the criticism to heart and although we still use the music we have found ways to be more respectful and never play the music while play is live. We play it between innings and as they walk up to the plate and then cut it off.
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PANNI
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Posted - 04/28/2011 : 09:01:26
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Papa, I don't have issues with the boom box. Play it as loud as you want. I don't think anyone from our group will get on th internet trashing the Bandits, declaring lack of class. Now that cowbell is a different story. I feel like we were introduced to the big time last year winning 4 Super NIT's with the Longhorns, so I know well how every issue gets analyzed. Maybe you could get with Bandit Hawk and he could let you know how well known the other team was in my example. I'm pretty sure you were even in attendance at this particular game.
Each and every team has flaws in my opinion. We all work to corect, improve and get better. But to get on the internet and declare lack of class from another organization isn't exactly dripping w class.
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Originally posted by baseball papa
Panni, Welcome to the big time. The better your team gets the more attention that they will garner. Even to the point of being put under a microscope and being second guessed for anything that you and team does. I am with G-Man on this one and feel strongly that at this age it is very bush league to do #1 or #2 of your example. The reason the other team did not get mentioned might be because they were not as well known as yourself.
I do not see much of the players in the dugout attempting to distract the pitcher by yelling during his delivery at the top of their lungs very much in Georgia but of course there is always the exception. You guys have a great team and do not need to resort to distracting a pitcher other than hammering the pitch when he delivers it. But if that is the way you choose to play then our next practice we will play something loud and long to prepare for our next meeting so we will be prepared one way or the other.
The Bandits are as guilty as anyone of being too emotional sometimes and early on we got hammered about the music but took the criticism to heart and although we still use the music we have found ways to be more respectful and never play the music while play is live. We play it between innings and as they walk up to the plate and then cut it off.
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baseball papa
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Posted - 04/28/2011 : 22:47:05
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Panni,
If the Bandit cowbell was used on you then you should consider that an ultimate statement of respect. The cowbell is banned by Coach Troy for all but the closet of games. So if the cowbell was used you can bet that the Bandits thought you had them on the ropes and it took a little of Papa's rope a dope to get out of that one. If you could not locate me in the last inning I was somewhere near Back Beach road trying to find out why Coach Troy switched pitchers. |
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