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Checkswing
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 Posted - 03/28/2011 : 19:36:46
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O.k. its time for some chatter, How bout the top 10 teams in 13u. Every team has aleast played one to two tournaments. Just from reading the threads and watching scores there are more than 5 teams in the discussion. So let's do the DAVID LETTERMAN TOP TEN LIST. If you have time give a reason why? This should be fun, cause there is alot of talented teams out there. Here's Mine.
1. Astros won 3 out of 4 tournaments
2. Braves can beat you on any given day, looking for consistancy
3. HP Just won the SNIT waiting to see if they can stay consistant.
4. Stixx they are always there at the end.
5. 45's they beat the #1, but I'm looking at depth.
6. Roadrunners slow start but watch out, very good team
7. Pride with that lineup, no pitcher wants to face them
8. MGBA Braves fast, atheletic, well coached, be careful
9. Kennesaw Baseball is starting to make some noise.
10. Gamers or Titans |
Edited by - Checkswing on 03/28/2011 19:37:27 |
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GoGators
21 Posts |
Posted - 03/28/2011 : 20:48:03
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Astros- won 3 tournys
Hp. Super nit champs
45s. Beat astros pride and braves (3 times)
stixx
Braves. Haven't beat the ones infront of them
Rr could be lower based on performance
kennesaw
titans
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Home run ball
50 Posts |
Posted - 03/28/2011 : 21:01:04
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| HP has won 3 in the fall and 2 already this Spring. Just the Fall, Only 6 teams, Just won the Super NIT...not yet consistent...wow!! |
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lottapop
257 Posts |
Posted - 03/28/2011 : 22:50:25
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Marinersfan
57 Posts |
Posted - 03/28/2011 : 23:00:03
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IMO:
1. HP - they won went it mattered.
2. .45s, Astros, Braves -- None of these three have pulled away as clear #2 or #3 yet. It doesn't matter how many local tourneys you win if you don't do well in the big ones.
5. Stixx --about the same as last year.
6. RoadRunners --Its early, but they are another team that does not look as good as last year.
7. Sharon Springs --have some good ballplayers. Can win on any given day.
8. Elite Gamers
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10?
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coachpitch
66 Posts |
Posted - 03/29/2011 : 09:55:39
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How about this guys? The USSSA Coach's Poll has the following rankings.
1. HP Chili Dogs
2. ECB Astros
3. ECB 45's
4. Georgia RR
5. Stixx Baseball
6. ECB Braves
7. ECB Titans
8. ECB Extreme
9. Suwanee Stix
10. Sharon Springs Baseball
LINK: http://www.usssa.com/sports/Rank2.asp?State=58&ClassID=40&SeasonID=15&RankSystem=4
A couple of things stand out.
One, I know the Road Runners are normally strong, but they have not played to the #4 ranking at all. I would not put them in the top 6 at this point...certainly not above the Stixx and ECB Braves.
Two, note the HP Chili Dogs win percentage in class. Geeze...pretty strong.
Three, check the link I gave and note the win percentage of the teams beaten. In other words, it would be comparable to strength of schedule in the BCS. If you were to look at the win percentage of teams beaten (strength of schedule), how might that affect these rankings? Very interesting...
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Pulpwood
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Posted - 03/29/2011 : 10:57:40
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| Pulpwoods gonna borrow a line from the infamous Ric Flair...."To Be the Best you Gotta Beat the Best". Teams have to play, head-to-head on neutral ground, without gerrymandering by the TD, to determine the real pecking order. Until then all of this is just a bunch of poppycock. |
Edited by - Pulpwood on 03/29/2011 11:06:24 |
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baserunner
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Posted - 03/29/2011 : 10:59:24
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1. HP - Dominated the fall, and first out the gate in the Spring. Very Impressive!
2. Astros - Will continue to get better. Now that they lost a couple let's see how they recover. I still think they will finish out the year #1
3. 45's - sitting in the driver's seat right about now (a great place to be).
4. Braves - always in the top 5
5. Stixx - always in the hunt
6. Pride - they need to sign up for more big tourneys to crack the top 5
7. Kennesaw - a pleasant surprise
8. Road Runners - still looking for them to show me something this year. I know they will!
9. Signature Park - looking forward to seeing them play some more
10. Gamers / Extreme - tie |
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knucklecurve
171 Posts |
Posted - 03/29/2011 : 11:49:43
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quote:
Originally posted by baserunner
1. HP - Dominated the fall, and first out the gate in the Spring. Very Impressive!
2. Astros - Will continue to get better. Now that they lost a couple let's see how they recover. I still think they will finish out the year #1
3. 45's - sitting in the driver's seat right about now (a great place to be).
4. Braves - always in the top 5
5. Stixx - always in the hunt
6. Pride - they need to sign up for more big tourneys to crack the top 5
7. Kennesaw - a pleasant surprise
8. Road Runners - still looking for them to show me something this year. I know they will!
9. Signature Park - looking forward to seeing them play some more
10. Gamers / Extreme - tie
I totally agree with you at this point of the season! |
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coachpitch
66 Posts |
Posted - 03/29/2011 : 12:10:10
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Absolutely right Pulpwood.
But...it sure is fun to discuss. If it weren't for discussions like these, there would be few forums. Let's keep debating it simply because it is fun to do and to hear alternate views.
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Originally posted by Pulpwood
Pulpwoods gonna borrow a line from the infamous Ric Flair...."To Be the Best you Gotta Beat the Best". Teams have to play, head-to-head on neutral ground, without gerrymandering by the TD, to determine the real pecking order. Until then all of this is just a bunch of poppycock.
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Pulpwood
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Posted - 03/29/2011 : 13:34:09
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Ole Pulps gone back thru the annals and dug up a blast from the past. The way Pulp sees it things are holdin pretty much true to form and the Chilidogs are still the team to beat.....well good luck in findem.
Pulpwood has been listening to all of the chatter about last weekend and is trying to make sense out of the uproar and commotion about a fall beisbol tournament in Alabama. But Pulpwood's one that believes that where there is smoke there is generally fire so he has done a little ciphering on the situation in Auburn and has a couple of observations. From what he sees there is a lottapop in those Homeplate bats and maybe the south really is going to rise again. At least one team in the tournament had their pride hurt as they learned that one man can't do it all. Others found that a foundation built on stixx can sometimes be unstable. And while there were threats of cyclones, outlaws and dirtbags causing problems, in the end all finished up as expected. So it goes that while all of this is just little league beisbol in the season that doesn't really matter, Pulpwood believes The Homeplate CorndogsChilidogs should be considered the new team to beat and is releasing his final preseason predictions for 2011.
Top Overall
Astros
Colt 45's
Homeplate
Braves
Roadrunners
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Originally posted by coachpitch
Absolutely right Pulpwood.
But...it sure is fun to discuss. If it weren't for discussions like these, there would be few forums. Let's keep debating it simply because it is fun to do and to hear alternate views.
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Originally posted by Pulpwood
Pulpwoods gonna borrow a line from the infamous Ric Flair...."To Be the Best you Gotta Beat the Best". Teams have to play, head-to-head on neutral ground, without gerrymandering by the TD, to determine the real pecking order. Until then all of this is just a bunch of poppycock.
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Edited by - Pulpwood on 03/29/2011 22:00:24 |
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Hey Man
53 Posts |
Posted - 03/29/2011 : 13:51:15
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1.Homeplate
2.Astros
3.45's
4.Stixx
5.Roadrunners
6.Braves
7.Pride
8.Chain Yankees
9.Kennesaw Xtreme
10.Elite Gamers |
Edited by - Hey Man on 03/29/2011 22:00:24 |
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Checkswing
53 Posts |
Posted - 03/29/2011 : 14:03:22
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I did overlook something. So i'm gonna change my top 5.
1. Astros won 3 out 4 tourny, will get stronger
2. HP won 5 straight tournys including SNIT (3 fall)
3. STIXX beat 45's and Braves, lost to the teams above.
4. 45's are 1 and 3 against teams above.
5. Braves 1 and 5 against teams above, i think
6. Pride
7.RR
8. Mgba
9.Kennesaw Baseball
10. Gamers or Titans
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sccapcity
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Posted - 03/29/2011 : 14:52:47
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Wow, I didn't realize HP had won 5 tournaments in a row. One more and they will tie the Gwinnett Titans. Thats pretty elite company. I think the Titans won 24 straight games. CS, do you know how many games in row HP has won? quote:
Originally posted by Checkswing
I did overlook something. So i'm gonna change my top 5.
1. Astros won 3 out 4 tourny, will get stronger
2. HP won 5 straight tournys including SNIT (3 fall)
3. STIXX beat 45's and Braves, lost to the teams above.
4. 45's are 1 and 3 against teams above.
5. Braves 1 and 5 against teams above, i think
6. Pride
7.RR
8. Mgba
9.Kennesaw Baseball
10. Gamers or Titans
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BBDAD9721
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Posted - 03/29/2011 : 21:53:09
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| I think Knucklecurve should quit boasting about his team all the time.... Just look at the stats.... ok, Home Plate has one 5 out of 5 tournaments including the SUPER NIT! Astros lost 2 games in the same tournament. just look at it that way, its not how you think your team will do throughout the year its what your team has done and is doing. Although I do agree with you man, the Astros are defenitely in the top 3 I just wouldnt put them up there number one, just cause thats what you want to believe. |
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Mike Corbin
523 Posts |
Posted - 03/29/2011 : 22:15:08
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Hey BBDAD,
Knuckle is a parent just like all of us, but is not from the team you think they may be. Knuckle's sons team is not even being mentioned in this thread.
Lets just play some baseball.......if the weather will allow us to!!!! |
Edited by - Mike Corbin on 03/29/2011 22:50:11 |
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cutoffman
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Posted - 03/29/2011 : 22:31:42
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In time SCC.....quote:
Originally posted by sccapcity
Wow, I didn't realize HP had won 5 tournaments in a row. One more and they will tie the Gwinnett Titans. Thats pretty elite company. I think the Titans won 24 straight games. CS, do you know how many games in row HP has won? quote:
Originally posted by Checkswing
I did overlook something. So i'm gonna change my top 5.
1. Astros won 3 out 4 tourny, will get stronger
2. HP won 5 straight tournys including SNIT (3 fall)
3. STIXX beat 45's and Braves, lost to the teams above.
4. 45's are 1 and 3 against teams above.
5. Braves 1 and 5 against teams above, i think
6. Pride
7.RR
8. Mgba
9.Kennesaw Baseball
10. Gamers or Titans
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knucklecurve
171 Posts |
Posted - 03/29/2011 : 22:32:38
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quote:
Originally posted by BBDAD9721
I think Knucklecurve should quit boasting about his team all the time.... Just look at the stats.... ok, Home Plate has one 5 out of 5 tournaments including the SUPER NIT! Astros lost 2 games in the same tournament. just look at it that way, its not how you think your team will do throughout the year its what your team has done and is doing. Although I do agree with you man, the Astros are defenitely in the top 3 I just wouldnt put them up there number one, just cause thats what you want to believe.
You must be talking about someone else! I am not and never claimed to be associated with the Astros. As a matter of fact I called someone out for boasting about the Astros(Dragons) on the Triple Crown thread. I do think The Astros are in the top 3 as well, but not #1 at this point of the season. Probably not even #2. |
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Checkswing
53 Posts |
Posted - 03/29/2011 : 22:35:11
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Originally posted by Home run ball
HP has won 3 in the fall and 2 already this Spring. Just the Fall, Only 6 teams, Just won the Super NIT...not yet consistent...wow!!
capcity I read this post so I done some research. I wouldnt put alot of stock in the fall tournys but I figured they deserved a #2 spot after the SNIT. Dont know much about the G Titans, but I too will research that. By the way Pulpwood, that is some good stuff. Ur cracking me up. Unusual talent u have there, but intriging to say the least. |
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lottapop
257 Posts |
Posted - 03/29/2011 : 22:49:43
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| Homeplate is definitely on a roll but in baseball you are judged on the outcome of the next tournament and not what you did in the past. Super NIT was a great win but it is now in the past and it is time to move forward to the next inning in the next game. Lots of baseball still to be played. My predictions.... Win every game you play and everything else will take care of itself!!! |
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BBDAD9721
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Posted - 03/30/2011 : 01:16:55
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| I'm sorry knuckle, I just get so caught up in all this travel ball. it drives me crazy! I do respect your opinions and who you think are the top teams. And I didn't necessarily mean your a dad of a kid on that team....anyone that was bugging me so I wanted to get it off my back and I think that there are good teams out there besides HP and east Cobb too. I'm sorry knuckle that was very disrespectful of me. |
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Home run ball
50 Posts |
Posted - 03/30/2011 : 10:35:43
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quote:
Originally posted by lottapop
Homeplate is definitely on a roll but in baseball you are judged on the outcome of the next tournament and not what you did in the past. Super NIT was a great win but it is now in the past and it is time to move forward to the next inning in the next game. Lots of baseball still to be played. My predictions.... Win every game you play and everything else will take care of itself!!!
So true...Great to win but there is always the next game..HP has that "special" something (win or lose) that makes the team what it is. They have class act players and coaches who love to play baseball and have that unusual chemistry that doesn't always happen on teams. The fans love watching them play and it makes for great baseball (win or lose) These kids love to play ball! |
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knucklecurve
171 Posts |
Posted - 03/30/2011 : 11:13:46
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Originally posted by BBDAD9721
I'm sorry knuckle, I just get so caught up in all this travel ball. it drives me crazy! I do respect your opinions and who you think are the top teams. And I didn't necessarily mean your a dad of a kid on that team....anyone that was bugging me so I wanted to get it off my back and I think that there are good teams out there besides HP and east Cobb too. I'm sorry knuckle that was very disrespectful of me.
No problem! We all get caught up in this from time to time. I only state my opinion at the time and correct my statement when proven wrong. Yes, there are many great teams in this age group and HP is on top right now. Their record from the fall until now stands on its own...... |
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coachpitch
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Posted - 03/30/2011 : 11:41:05
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What you do in the present certainly is important. But, determining the best team is taking into account the body of work for the year. No one should be expected to go undefeated and win every tournament if they are to be considered #1.
Somewhere along the lines the HP team may lose - and even lose a tournament. But, at this point, there is no doubt in my mind that they are the #1 team in Georgia based on their body of work since the fall. In fact, they have only lost once (in Auburn to the Stixx in the fall) this season. Honestly, after that, the Astros body of work is 2nd. The next 3-4 teams are all together Stixx, 45's, Braves...
Body of work determines #1 for the season, and not just what a team did in the latest tournament or game.
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Originally posted by lottapop
Homeplate is definitely on a roll but in baseball you are judged on the outcome of the next tournament and not what you did in the past. Super NIT was a great win but it is now in the past and it is time to move forward to the next inning in the next game. Lots of baseball still to be played. My predictions.... Win every game you play and everything else will take care of itself!!!
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Edited by - coachpitch on 03/30/2011 11:49:22 |
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pops
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Posted - 03/30/2011 : 11:43:36
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Originally posted by Pulpwood
Pulpwoods gonna borrow a line from the infamous Ric Flair...."To Be the Best you Gotta Beat the Best". Teams have to play, head-to-head on neutral ground, without gerrymandering by the TD, to determine the real pecking order. Until then all of this is just a bunch of poppycock.
I agree, pulp. Tournament play does not always show who the "best" team is. Just look at the NCAA basketball tournament (is VCU really in the top 4?).
The season is Looooong. Everything shakes out in the end. Let's look back in July/August. |
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Darnell
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Posted - 03/30/2011 : 23:14:22
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First and foremost the fall is irrelevant in any discussion regarding a team's competitiveness. Most of the top teams and talent don't play in the fall due to conflicts with football thus the level of play is diminished. Even those that do play rarely practice and most, if not all the time, rosters, are a hodgepod of players. Rambling on about success in the fall is like talking about who beat who in a scrimmage game. It simply doesn't matter. Secondly, HP has only played one of the top 6 teams. Until such time as they beat the Astros, Braves, Roadrunners and/or 45's they simply cannot be considered for the number one spot. This discussion reminds me of the same that played out with Oregon and Auburn. Many thought Oregon, based on their record, was a legitimate number one. However, after the Auburn game the entire country would agree the Ducks were overrated and would probably struggle against many SEC teams. See the similarities? Sorry, but for me, the body of work is too incomplete at this point. quote:
Originally posted by coachpitch
What you do in the present certainly is important. But, determining the best team is taking into account the body of work for the year. No one should be expected to go undefeated and win every tournament if they are to be considered #1.
Somewhere along the lines the HP team may lose - and even lose a tournament. But, at this point, there is no doubt in my mind that they are the #1 team in Georgia based on their body of work since the fall. In fact, they have only lost once (in Auburn to the Stixx in the fall) this season. Honestly, after that, the Astros body of work is 2nd. The next 3-4 teams are all together Stixx, 45's, Braves...
Body of work determines #1 for the season, and not just what a team did in the latest tournament or game.
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Originally posted by lottapop
Homeplate is definitely on a roll but in baseball you are judged on the outcome of the next tournament and not what you did in the past. Super NIT was a great win but it is now in the past and it is time to move forward to the next inning in the next game. Lots of baseball still to be played. My predictions.... Win every game you play and everything else will take care of itself!!!
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Edited by - Darnell on 03/31/2011 08:57:59 |
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