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bmoser
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 Posted - 03/03/2011 : 15:32:01
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| Saturday March 5th 1 PM, MBA Elite vs. Team Florida in pool game. Maybe they'll be a re-match in bracket play. |
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G-Man
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Posted - 03/03/2011 : 22:39:13
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No winner of that game should be #1 seed and whoever isnt the #1 out of those 2 teams will have to face some tough teams starting bracket play. There are other teams that if they throw their #1 pitchers would give MBA or any other team in that tournament a hard time. However most of those team have less pitching than MBA. The team with the most pitching which in my mind is MBA will go to the championship.
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Originally posted by bmoser
Saturday March 5th 1 PM, MBA Elite vs. Team Florida in pool game. Maybe they'll be a re-match in bracket play.
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10 BB
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Posted - 03/04/2011 : 08:08:05
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For those that get the chance this game at 1:00 pm will be live on web-cam at TravelBallSelect.com. It is a Pay Per View event but a heck of a deal for $5.00
G-man; I can promise you Team Florida has plenty pitching to make it to the Championship game!I'm not saying we will make it there but we have the pitching to do it.
This will be a great game and if the Slugfest gets soaked, tune in on this great match up. This tournament director in Central Florida (William Saunders) is a great guy and knows how to host a tournament. If any of you Ga. teams ever want to come south to compete I'm sure he will go the extra mile to meet your teams needs! You on this board express the dissatisfaction with USSSA in Ga. but I can assure you that William Saunders would change your thoughts about USSSA tournaments.
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baseballpapa
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Posted - 03/04/2011 : 08:11:44
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Both of these teams should have enough pitching to get to the championship game but if the Florida 12U teams have developed like Georgia's I would almost bet that there are other contenders or at least spoilers that could ruin any one of these teams trip to the finals.
And just think what is in store once Georgia, Florida, Alabama, Tennessee get together for some regional play. I think it is a fair statement to say that we play in one of the toughest regions in the Nation.
I know both these teams almost as well as I know the Bandits and this has the makings of what should be a great game of baseball. Good luck to both teams. |
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6bomber
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Posted - 03/05/2011 : 20:35:31
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| turned out to be a good game. BH shut out team fla. while the lefties kept MBA off the board. hope to see them play again in the championship. |
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10 BB
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Posted - 03/05/2011 : 20:44:55
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Well what can I say, Team Florida just didn't hit like we should in this game but thank goodness we had some great pitching! This game had lots of great plays and some costly mistakes on our side because we just couldn't get the runs in when we had the chance.
Hats off to MBA Pride, there is a reason they are the reigning National Champs and the game they played today displayed their heart, desire and determination. They pitched a very good game but in the end some one had to win and just glad Team Florida managed to win this very important game. |
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mlbscout
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Posted - 03/05/2011 : 21:35:34
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I got to watch the much anticipated game over the internet. The transmission was not the best with lots of freezing. I was not greatly impressed by neither MBA or Team Florida. They each had more strikeouts than you would expect from teams with so much hype. I think that the MBA coach left his starter too long, he appeared to tire around the 5th inning. It is very possible that neither of these two teams will be around for the final. MBA only used 2 pitchers and each went at least 4 innings. Those pitchers won't be able to pitch tomorrow. Not sure how many pitchers they have left.
It will be interesting to see how those 2 teams from Florida will do at the Geaorgia super nit later this month.
MBA will have to show a lot more if they want to be considered as one of the top 5 teams in the country.
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Originally posted by baseballpapa
Both of these teams should have enough pitching to get to the championship game but if the Florida 12U teams have developed like Georgia's I would almost bet that there are other contenders or at least spoilers that could ruin any one of these teams trip to the finals.
And just think what is in store once Georgia, Florida, Alabama, Tennessee get together for some regional play. I think it is a fair statement to say that we play in one of the toughest regions in the Nation.
I know both these teams almost as well as I know the Bandits and this has the makings of what should be a great game of baseball. Good luck to both teams.
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G-Man
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Posted - 03/05/2011 : 23:12:19
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The starter for MBA in the game against Team Florida is MBA's #5 pitcher. This is assuming that the names were wrote down correct for the pitching log. Also again if pitching logs are correct TF pitched their ace for 3 innings.
Team Florida shouldnt have any problems reaching the finals. The brackets lined up just right. Whereas MBA will have 3 tough games against some very good pitching to reach the finals. Out of the teams on Team Florida's side of the bracket only one has a Major level shutdown pitcher. Two other teams on that side of the bracket will have to pitch their aces against eachother to advance and neither is left with much after that once they get to Team Florida.
On a side note though I think its suppose to rain and storm tomorrow in Plant City.
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Originally posted by mlbscout
I got to watch the much anticipated game over the internet. The transmission was not the best with lots of freezing. I was not greatly impressed by neither MBA or Team Florida. They each had more strikeouts than you would expect from teams with so much hype. I think that the MBA coach left his starter too long, he appeared to tire around the 5th inning. It is very possible that neither of these two teams will be around for the final. MBA only used 2 pitchers and each went at least 4 innings. Those pitchers won't be able to pitch tomorrow. Not sure how many pitchers they have left.
It will be interesting to see how those 2 teams from Florida will do at the Geaorgia super nit later this month.
MBA will have to show a lot more if they want to be considered as one of the top 5 teams in the country.
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Originally posted by baseballpapa
Both of these teams should have enough pitching to get to the championship game but if the Florida 12U teams have developed like Georgia's I would almost bet that there are other contenders or at least spoilers that could ruin any one of these teams trip to the finals.
And just think what is in store once Georgia, Florida, Alabama, Tennessee get together for some regional play. I think it is a fair statement to say that we play in one of the toughest regions in the Nation.
I know both these teams almost as well as I know the Bandits and this has the makings of what should be a great game of baseball. Good luck to both teams.
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Spartan4
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Posted - 03/06/2011 : 00:43:39
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| Were the strikeouts a product of really good pitching?? Both of these teams are TOUGH!! |
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10 BB
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Posted - 03/06/2011 : 08:14:17
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G-man;
We don't have an ace, we have a 9 man pitching staff and a coach that scouts every team we are to face then the coaches evaluate what our scouting coach has to say and they collectivley choose which pitcher they think best suits the team we are facing.
Our team was the under dog in this match up and now that we managed to win our team will be picked apart as you have started doing with the game by trying to say MBA pitched their #5. I thought most teams played to win every game. So are you emplying that MBA set out to lose by pitching their #5 or they thought MBA would win so they pitched a lesser pitcher. |
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seminole tony
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Posted - 03/06/2011 : 08:44:46
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| Umpire had a liberal strike zone. Was giving the strike on the outside of the plate (to righties). I mean wayyyyy outside part of the plate. My son and I were also watching it. Your right about the freezing of the transmission of the picture and sound. Base running error in the fourth cost MBA a run( If I remember correctly). |
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baseballpapa
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Posted - 03/06/2011 : 08:59:48
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"Sic em Biz" Papa has stated many times that if the scoreboard is on that the game is important. I liked your answer that stated that you pitched what you thought was the best pitcher for that game and that the decision was made by scouting your opponent and also based on giving your team the best chance to win the game at hand and still keep enough gas in the tank to finish the trip. I also watched the game on the web and reviewed the book and feel that pitching will not be a problem for either team. But G-Man might be right about the Bracket comment. We have all been in the position of fighting through the tougher bracket to get into the championship only to have very little pitching left in the tank for the final battle. Biz has been there so he knows this to be true but Team Florida did not draw the bracket up, they will play each team that is put in front of them and they had better play them one at a time for if any team looks too far ahead they might get a surprise.
Today is the day that counts and I expect both of these teams to step up and show what they are made of. Let's not forget that this is not a 2 team tournament as I feel there are several other teams that came to the War on I-4 to prove that they can play with the big boys.
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6bomber
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Posted - 03/06/2011 : 09:12:29
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| u may say team fla threw their ace 3 innings. not sure which ace u are talking about? as for BH being #5 pitcher, that may be, but he would be a 1 or 2 on most teams. not sure why they threw two pitchers out on sat.? just as team fla. has plenty of pitching i'm sure coach melendez has a good plan for sunday. |
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TAZ980002
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Posted - 03/06/2011 : 09:13:08
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| Best of luck the rest of the way 10bb. I am hoping you guys are able to meet up in the championship game for a rematch. For what it's worth, I've seen MBA's pitcher before and he is no team's #5 pitcher !! |
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G-Man
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Posted - 03/06/2011 : 14:41:49
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The only thing I can say is dont take just my word for it. Go look at past tournaments and the pitching logs. See how many bracket play games he has pitched and how often he pitches.
10bb: Not suggesting at all that they set out to lose. I do believe they most likely felt that their defense would hold your offense down and that their offense would produce more than yours. My point is they were not trying to throw a shutdown pitcher in pool play.
As for TF having 9 pitchers thats really nice for your team and most teams would kill to have 9. However whether its your team or anyone elses. From youth ball to MLB every team has an ACE. Based on what I know of your players unless something has changed in the last 4 to 5 months. Your team threw yours.
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Originally posted by Bandit_Hawk
Best of luck the rest of the way 10bb. I am hoping you guys are able to meet up in the championship game for a rematch. For what it's worth, I've seen MBA's pitcher before and he is no team's #5 pitcher !!
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G-Man
326 Posts |
Posted - 03/06/2011 : 15:07:21
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Well it looks like MBA is having to face the Bad Boys. Last time these two teams played Bad Boys won 6-5. The Bad Boys have what I would say is one of the top 5 pitchers in the country if he is on
( AC ) He throws VERY VERY HARD and has a wicked curve ball. However he just come back from a broken finger on his throwing hand so not sure how that might hurt him throwing. If they beat MBA they wont have really any pitching left in the championship. MBA however will have at least 1 of their top pitchers left for championship either JS or WR.
UPDATE: MBA beat Bad Boys. Looks like an MBA and Team Florida championship. It seems AC from the Bad Boys was struggling a little. |
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Spartan4
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Posted - 03/06/2011 : 18:44:39
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| Is this AC kid the phantom player from FL I have heard throws 77?? I wouldn't doubt what any of these boys can do but I really wanna see that speed from 50ft!! |
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bamamom
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Posted - 03/06/2011 : 18:53:55
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| Team Florida just run ruled MBA Pride in the forth inning!!!!!! Congratulations and way to go Team Florida! |
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bamamom
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Posted - 03/06/2011 : 19:31:02
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| Sorry got so excited I thought they run ruled them, however, 10BB texted and said it was 8-0!! Still...a great score and again congratulations!!!!!! |
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G-Man
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Posted - 03/06/2011 : 19:45:03
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Congratz and now let the fireworks begin LOL.
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Team Florida just run ruled MBA Pride in the forth inning!!!!!! Congratulations and way to go Team Florida!
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10 BB
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Posted - 03/07/2011 : 08:36:30
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This tournament did what it was supposed to do for our team, pushed them to the limit. We played the reigning National champs in pool play and won. We had to play four bracket games on Sunday and won them all. We tested all our pitchers and they all passed, we tested our defense and it passed, we tested our offense and it passed. Most of all we tested the heart of every one of our players and they all got it! Who's to say the next tournament we won't go out and stink it up, nobody knows because at the end of the day they are still 12yrs old. Like Papa has said "The sun don't shine on the same dogs butt all the time" and we just hope to continue to grow as a team but we also know our team will stumble from time to time!
G-man; not sure what # you will put on the three pitchers we faced against MBA on Sunday but I will say that #5 (as you called him) we faced on Sat. managed to hold our team to 1 run!!
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mlbscout
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Posted - 03/07/2011 : 08:57:31
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Here is my summary of the tournament. Remember I am a MLB scout 
I got to see most of the games via webcast. At times they were very difficult to follow due to the poor quality of the transmission but I guess better than nothing. Team Florida exposed MBA's weakness: the changeup or curve ball. I had never seen them play before but they surely didn't play like the #1 team in the country. They could not score a run against slightly above average pitching during 10 innings. The position for the best 12 under team is wide open and likely will go to a team from the West coast or a team from Georgia (Bandits). It seems to me that Team Florida played well against MBA yet they had a hard time beating a brand new team that plays mainly in the AAA division. I'll try to follow the Georgia super NIT since Team Florida, Bandits, and MBA will be competing. I may even consider attending it in person. I would not be surprised if another team from Georgia other than the Banditsd wins it. I think it is going to depend on pool play matchups and the how the brackets sort out.
The pitcher from TF really did not seem dominating; the MBA batters lacked discipline and patience at the plate. How can MBA bat 4 lefties in a row??? MBA made several mental errors on defense. TF stole bases without any difficulty. Not once did the MBA coaches call for a pitch out. Team Florida won the tournament without any argument. However, in my opinion they beat a team which seems to be in disarray. I would like to hear G-man's opinion since he seems to know them very well.
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Originally posted by G-Man
Congratz and now let the fireworks begin LOL.
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Originally posted by bamamom
Team Florida just run ruled MBA Pride in the forth inning!!!!!! Congratulations and way to go Team Florida!
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PANNI
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Posted - 03/07/2011 : 10:36:13
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I haven't posted in over a year on this website but I just had to make a post to defend a 12 year old baseball player, who more than proved to be dominant, pitching in 2 terrific outings this weekend. He hit his locations all weekend, change up and cutter kept MBA off balance all weekend, making the fastball very effective. Wow, this sounds like I'm talking about Tom Glavine...no Greg Maddux.
4 games, MBA averaged 11 runs per game this weekend, not counting the 2 games against TF. So I don't think the excuse of the bats weren't hot this weekend will fly.
TF, not only beat MBA twice, they shut them out twice and once by run rule. Please raise your hand if your team done any better. Bandits came pretty close.
As for the game against The Bullets, a hard time beating them, is quite exaggerated. The Bullets scored 4 in the 1st and didn't score again. TF answered with 7 in the bottom of the 1st and went on to win 10-4. Not exactly a nail biter in my opinion.
IN 6 games, TF gave up 2 runs in the 1st inning of the 1st game and gave up 4 runs in the 1st inning of the 5th game. The other 4 games, TF was no scored on.
TF v. MBA on Saturday was a great game. You don't see too many 1-0 games at this level. This game could have gone either way. BH threw a great game for MBA. I read the post that he began to tire in the 5th. His fast ball still had the same velocity it did in the 1st inning and curve was still nasty. Maybe TF just started hitting the ball. TF threw #13 and #5 who made few mistakes. There was some great defensive plays made on both sides and #12 for MBA hit a shot 305' that short hopped the fence at 310' into about a 10-15 MPH wind.
TF v. MBA on Sunday. I don't think any parent, coach or fan who was there would disagree that TF deserved the Championship. Umping was fair, brackets didn't seem to matter, weather was awesome, pitchers for both teams seemed alright.
I'm not a big fan of degrading a kid calling them 'slightly better than average' when he just pitched the best game of his young carrer. MLB Scut, I don't think your 'in person' services will be needed in ATL Super NIT.
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Originally posted by mlbscout
Here is my summary of the tournament. Remember I am a MLB scout
I got to see most of the games via webcast. At times they were very difficult to follow due to the poor quality of the transmission but I guess better than nothing. Team Florida exposed MBA's weakness: the changeup or curve ball. I had never seen them play before but they surely didn't play like the #1 team in the country. They could not score a run against slightly above average pitching during 10 innings. The position for the best 12 under team is wide open and likely will go to a team from the West coast or a team from Georgia (Bandits). It seems to me that Team Florida played well against MBA yet they had a hard time beating a brand new team that plays mainly in the AAA division. I'll try to follow the Georgia super NIT since Team Florida, Bandits, and MBA will be competing. I may even consider attending it in person. I would not be surprised if another team from Georgia other than the Banditsd wins it. I think it is going to depend on pool play matchups and the how the brackets sort out.
The pitcher from TF really did not seem dominating; the MBA batters lacked discipline and patience at the plate. How can MBA bat 4 lefties in a row??? MBA made several mental errors on defense. TF stole bases without any difficulty. Not once did the MBA coaches call for a pitch out. Team Florida won the tournament without any argument. However, in my opinion they beat a team which seems to be in disarray. I would like to hear G-man's opinion since he seems to know them very well.
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Originally posted by G-Man
Congratz and now let the fireworks begin LOL.
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Originally posted by bamamom
Team Florida just run ruled MBA Pride in the forth inning!!!!!! Congratulations and way to go Team Florida!
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G-Man
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Posted - 03/07/2011 : 13:41:50
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I am not sure they are in dismay. I know a few weeks ago when the Bad Boys beat them in an AAU tournament for the championship and Avalanche tied them in pool play. It looked like to me it caused a little dismay. However my opinion is somewhat simple. Last year MBA was just bigger, stronger and overpowered teams and other players. This year it seems to me that a lot of the players that were overpowered have caught up to this team, improved their baseball skills and able to fight back a little more. IMHO it will change even more once these young men hit 13u and even more at 14u because they game is that much different.
There is a lot of presure on those young men from MBA. They are facing presure from themselves, parents, their teammates, coaches and others in the travel baseball community. Thats a lot to carry for a 12 year old young man.
The AAA team is not a new team. They just changed their name from last year. They use to be called the Mutiny.
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Originally posted by mlbscout
Here is my summary of the tournament. Remember I am a MLB scout
I got to see most of the games via webcast. At times they were very difficult to follow due to the poor quality of the transmission but I guess better than nothing. Team Florida exposed MBA's weakness: the changeup or curve ball. I had never seen them play before but they surely didn't play like the #1 team in the country. They could not score a run against slightly above average pitching during 10 innings. The position for the best 12 under team is wide open and likely will go to a team from the West coast or a team from Georgia (Bandits). It seems to me that Team Florida played well against MBA yet they had a hard time beating a brand new team that plays mainly in the AAA division. I'll try to follow the Georgia super NIT since Team Florida, Bandits, and MBA will be competing. I may even consider attending it in person. I would not be surprised if another team from Georgia other than the Banditsd wins it. I think it is going to depend on pool play matchups and the how the brackets sort out.
The pitcher from TF really did not seem dominating; the MBA batters lacked discipline and patience at the plate. How can MBA bat 4 lefties in a row??? MBA made several mental errors on defense. TF stole bases without any difficulty. Not once did the MBA coaches call for a pitch out. Team Florida won the tournament without any argument. However, in my opinion they beat a team which seems to be in disarray. I would like to hear G-man's opinion since he seems to know them very well.
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Originally posted by G-Man
Congratz and now let the fireworks begin LOL.
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Originally posted by bamamom
Team Florida just run ruled MBA Pride in the forth inning!!!!!! Congratulations and way to go Team Florida!
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baseballpapa
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Posted - 03/07/2011 : 14:37:34
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I don't think that anyone should count out MBA as they have been in this spot before and rebounded just fine. It is still much too early to be handing out crowns but I do say that my point of the field of teams in 12U being much stronger than last year has been proven early and I think the lessons has just begun.
I predict that there will be many other contenders on both coasts that run up against a pitcher that they just can't handle for that one game and that all of us will lose more games than we are accustomed to losing.
The Super NIT should begin to shake things out a little and if these out of town teams are just looking for the Bandits then they will get the surprise of their lives if they take the other Georgia teams lightly. It's been all the Bandits could do to win in Georgia so I give fair warning to my out of state friends and that is you should be sure and bring your "A" game every game or some of these other Georgia teams will bite you good. |
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DBL PLAY
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Posted - 03/07/2011 : 17:11:28
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I'm not sure if I follow what mlbscout is saying, MBA run ruled every team in this tournament except Team Florida so were they in disarray before the tournament or as a result of being run ruled by Team Florida?
I too enjoyed watching this game on the net, I thought the commentary was nice to listen to because most of the net cam games are soundless. I thought the TF pitcher did a great job keeping MBA off balance. I would have to dissagree with mlbscout saying that the pitcher was slightly above average. He managed to shut out MBA in 3 innings the first day and the whole game in the ship. What other team out there or pitcher has shut out the Pride?
I'm not a fan of TF but I know them well and think it's a little unfair to downgrade MBA (national champs) in an attempt to downplay the the great job TF did in this tournament. It seems to me that TF may be the best team in Florida at this time and I would love for my sons team to play them. |
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