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Leftypitcher
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 Posted - 12/20/2010 : 23:14:01
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Is it too early to start the guessing game of what teams will be the best in Spring 2011?
I know that most teams have not posted their spring roster yet, but I figured there is not much else to talk about right now  |
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Alter-Ego
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Posted - 12/21/2010 : 13:54:57
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I think the question is more about "Who made significant enough improvments in the off-season to make a big jump from where they were last season?"
At 15, no one will have a spring roster because, unlike last year, all the 15's are in HS and will, hopefully, be playing there in the spring. Summer won't start until May, which should heat up rather quickly. The season becomes 3 months.
Are there any teams that have improved enough to move from Major to Elite? (Does Elite even mean anything at the older age groups?)
Are there any teams that have improved enough to move from AAA to Major?
How about AA to AAA?
The Astros will be the Astros, the Titans will be the Titans, Longhorns the Longhorns, TG will be TG (both of them), not sure if the Vipers will have a team this year after at least 3 of their players went to the Astros.
Any other updates out there that would add to the discussion?
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loveforthegame25
448 Posts |
Posted - 12/21/2010 : 18:51:47
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| All I can say is our age group is LOADED with talent! And the coaches are excellent too. |
Edited by - loveforthegame25 on 12/21/2010 19:03:31 |
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coachdan06
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Posted - 12/25/2010 : 01:43:02
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we hear the astros lost some players too
my money goes on rawlings at ec : real coaching and good air around it
i dont agree that the coaching is excellent in the age group : still lot of dads hanging on thats ec and others etcc . |
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Alter-Ego
802 Posts |
Posted - 12/27/2010 : 00:00:55
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It will be an interesting year with Coach Guy vs Coach Jordan at EC. These are two great coaches at this age group. There are other non-dad coaches that do a great job too. (Even though Coach Guy is technically a dad coach, he has proven himself enough in the past.) There is Coach Monahan with the Titans. Coach Abner with the Longhorns, and I believe a few other teams at EC have non-dad coaches as well. Actually this will be the fewest dad coaches that this age group has seen at EC.
Astros did lose 5 of their key players from last year's team to the 16U Astros, but picked up some excellent players to fill in those gaps. Coach Jordan always has a strong team. No reason to believe he won't this year. |
Edited by - Alter-Ego on 12/27/2010 09:02:49 |
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crackedbats
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Posted - 12/28/2010 : 14:09:27
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| Astros did get 3 of the top players from last years Vipers who were only one of 2 or 3 14u teams to beat them. They could concievably be a top team in the country again. Picked up lefty from Longhorns who threw about 15 innings for the Vipers at the Elite 32. Sounds like they definitely filled some holes. |
Edited by - crackedbats on 12/28/2010 15:04:40 |
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Shark
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Posted - 12/28/2010 : 16:08:31
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| Titans were clearly the best team at 15 last year and Monahan has another solid group. Many i've talked to feel the Astros lost too much as some moved up while others moved on. You can't underestimate the team chemistry when playing against top competition. |
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Leftypitcher
26 Posts |
Posted - 12/29/2010 : 09:17:51
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| What about the other 15u teams at ECB? |
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Alter-Ego
802 Posts |
Posted - 12/30/2010 : 10:59:56
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Leftypitcher,
Please add any details you know about the others. That is what this is for. I think people have added what they know. Others should do the same if they have info on other teams. |
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Alter-Ego
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Posted - 12/30/2010 : 14:13:50
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Lefty! I was hoping other people would talk about some of the other teams. We seem to talk about the same teams.
What do the Yankees look like this year?
How about the Angels?
Any scoop on the late-added Diamondbacks?
How about some non-EC teams? What's happening over with Team Gwinnett group?
How about 643 or Homeplate? How are those teams lining up?
I am not so interested in "who's going to be the best?". I am more interested in how teams are shaping up. |
Edited by - Alter-Ego on 12/30/2010 20:33:01 |
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Leftypitcher
26 Posts |
Posted - 12/30/2010 : 22:50:09
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Alter-Ego
I know very little about the other ECB teams. I was just curious as the only teams anyone ever mentions are the Astros and Titans. I do know that there are seven teams at ECB in this age group, but the other five seem to never get mentioned.
Yes the Astros are very good, the Titans are very good, but the other ECB teams should not be disregarded. Team Rawlings should be top notch along with the Longhorns due to their longevity. That leaves the Angels, the Pride, and the Yankees as the unknowns. However with the size of the talent pool these latter teams were able to pick from during the ECB tryouts, they should be highly competitive.
Team Gwinnett is generally a very good team. Have not seen 643 play much, but I understand they had a big turn-out for their try-out as well, so they will competitive. There is also the previous Stallion team now named the Wildcats out of Sandy Plains.
All in all, all the 15u teams at ECB should be highly competitive. I have heard many times at tournaments last season that some of the out of town teams really hated getting matched up against ECB teams In back-to-back games in the pool play since they had to use two to four top tier pitchers right away or risk being way down in the seeding for the tournament bracket. |
Edited by - Leftypitcher on 12/30/2010 23:50:16 |
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Hitman
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Posted - 12/30/2010 : 23:11:43
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| Look for the 14U Dekalb Tigers to play in some 15U tourneys... ideal being, to improve. |
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Alter-Ego
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Posted - 12/31/2010 : 10:41:16
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Hitman,
The great thing about moving to 14u is now playing up does not change the size of the field. We played a lot of 15u last year, and even played a 16u WS. The only change was the competition. It's just about playing against the competition that will continue to make you better. Good luck to the 14U Dekalb Tigers. I hope they have a great season and find the competition that will help them get better.
leftypitcher,
What I think will be interesting to see is how many teams have better talent than they do coaching. I have seen some in the past that did a great job of recruiting talent, but the coaching ran them out of games and tournaments.
I love this time of year because it is the time that teams are the most optimistic. Everyone looks around at what could be and spills with excitement of the coming season.
The only difference this year is we have HS baseball between now and the travel season. That should be a new and wonderful experience for these boys. We are barely a month away from HS tryouts. Good luck to all the boys on trying out for their HS team. |
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loveforthegame25
448 Posts |
Posted - 12/31/2010 : 12:31:52
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| We played the Yanks in the Fall. If that is their roster in the summer they will be right up their with the rest. Very competitive group. |
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loveforthegame25
448 Posts |
Posted - 12/31/2010 : 12:46:03
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| Coach Dan, you need to check your facts on your alot of dad coaches hangin around at 15U. 7 Teams, 2 "dad" coaches. Yanks have non dad assistants and Rawlings has a "dad". check his resume. |
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loveforthegame25
448 Posts |
Posted - 12/31/2010 : 12:52:09
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| And if you dont think Jordan, Monahan, Guy, Abner, Merino are excellent coaches you need to check your facts. Again |
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goyard
217 Posts |
Posted - 01/01/2011 : 19:51:19
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| Tell it LFTG...that's some serious coaching!! Dan how can you back up your statement of not agreeing that EC 15u has great coaching.....like they say on sportscenter....COME ON MAN!! |
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Alter-Ego
802 Posts |
Posted - 01/01/2011 : 23:04:44
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I don't think you can classify coach Guy as a dad coach, even though he has a son on the team. If you have been coaching with the 16u Astros for many years, and before that this was your bio, then the question about being qualified is answered:
A highly successful coach at the college level at Georgia Tech for eight years and the high school level for nine years. While at Georgia Tech, Coach Guy was the hitting coach and worked with the Jackets' outfielders and catchers.Coach Guy also directed the daily operation of Tech's summer and Christmas baseball camps. Much of the Jackets' potent offensive capabilities can be traced to Coach Guy's knowledge and hitting instruction.Under his tutelage, five Tech players hit .400 or better, and the Jackets finished first or second in the ACC in batting and scoring average in six of his eight years at Tech. In his eight years at Tech, the Jackets batted .326 and averaged 8.8 runs per game.In 2000, Coach Guy tutored a Tech offense that set a school record with a .341 team batting average and featured the ACC and National Player of the Year, Mark Teixeria.
I have not gotten the scoop on the Diamondbacks to know what their coaching staff is comprised of. If anyone has any info, please let us know. |
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jongamefan
218 Posts |
Posted - 01/06/2011 : 12:04:44
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Game: watched an Astro pitcher Blu Jays shut them down cold in fall
imo needed work and additions
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Originally posted by loveforthegame25
We played the Yanks in the Fall. If that is their roster in the summer they will be right up their with the rest. Very competitive group.
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loveforthegame25
448 Posts |
Posted - 01/07/2011 : 21:19:52
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| Yard...... That was good..... Come on man!!!!!!!! |
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Shark
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Posted - 01/10/2011 : 10:24:23
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Let's get back to the orignal post -- best teams as follows:
1. Titans: Power and Speed; Coach is best at this level - plays to win
2. Astros (Tie): Lost core team, new unproven players; team chemistry questions.
2. Rawlings (Tie): Solid players; nice pickups; always well coached
3. Yankees: Good pitching; but some holes in the offense.
4. Longhorns: Competitive team; lacks team speed and offensive punch.
5. Pride: no good insights or data based on Fall.
6. Angels: no good insights or data based on Fall. |
Edited by - Shark on 01/12/2011 08:41:15 |
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crackedbats
160 Posts |
Posted - 01/12/2011 : 10:12:22
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| Just my opinion the players the Astros plugged in are topnotch. I think you need to move them ahead of the Titans. Sounds like they will be deeper at pitching than last year. They will miss the big catcher from LA. but sounds like they have plugged the remaining holes quite well. |
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Leftypitcher
26 Posts |
Posted - 01/12/2011 : 13:06:14
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Crackedbats,
How do you think the other ECB teams stack up on pitching? |
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crackedbats
160 Posts |
Posted - 01/12/2011 : 14:56:13
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| Astros are deepest in pitching. obv Titans will be strong. Rawlings looks also to be loaded in pitching also. They picked up pitching from the prior year Stallions, Titans and Astros. They def could challenge most any team they face. May even be deeper in pitching than the Titans. If they can generate offense the could be extremely tough. Longhorns lost a couple of strong arms to the Astros and 643 but look like they filled in holes nicely with players from EC Titans, Phillies. They also get another strong arm back from a knee injury last year Yankees have a slew of strong arms. Only question is can they score runs against the other top teams. Dont know alot about Pride other than saw a lefty throw for them who could bring it. Angels-took a pitcher from Nelson BB fall team. Kid threw well against EC Titans in fall. Lost the game 4-2 as Titans came from behind 2-1 when he ran out of gas. But for 5 innings he was slinging it. |
Edited by - crackedbats on 01/12/2011 17:11:53 |
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jongamefan
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Posted - 01/13/2011 : 23:43:29
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Bats: Rawling did not pickup any pitchers from Titans or from Astros .
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Originally posted by crackedbats
Astros are deepest in pitching. obv Titans will be strong. Rawlings looks also to be loaded in pitching also. They picked up pitching from the prior year Stallions, Titans and Astros. They def could challenge most any team they face. May even be deeper in pitching than the Titans. If they can generate offense the could be extremely tough. Longhorns lost a couple of strong arms to the Astros and 643 but look like they filled in holes nicely with players from EC Titans, Phillies. They also get another strong arm back from a knee injury last year Yankees have a slew of strong arms. Only question is can they score runs against the other top teams. Dont know alot about Pride other than saw a lefty throw for them who could bring it. Angels-took a pitcher from Nelson BB fall team. Kid threw well against EC Titans in fall. Lost the game 4-2 as Titans came from behind 2-1 when he ran out of gas. But for 5 innings he was slinging it.
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Alter-Ego
802 Posts |
Posted - 01/16/2011 : 16:52:52
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| Longhorns filled in with an Astro, Stallion, Titan, and Philly. May not have as much depth, but should be fine. One thing we know is, with 12 players on the roster, everyone will get lots of playing time. Depth may affect the team for a few games but not enough to give up all the innings and AB's the kids will get. At this point, it's about playing time, not being the best team in the country, in GA, or even at EC. No one gets better sitting on the bench. Seeing the boy's team chemistry together, it should make for a fun season. I hope everyone has an enjoyable summer. It will be a compact one. |
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