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ecbinsider
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 Posted - 07/24/2010 : 15:33:02
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There were some rumors of a new coach taking over the 11U Astros but it looks like coach k of the Braves will take on that role. This is only fitting since they have been the top team in the state for the past few years.
Wonder who they'll look towards to fill out their roster and how this will effect the other EC teams. |
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MadSkills
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Posted - 07/24/2010 : 20:31:37
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| It's true, the Braves website is now listed as the 2011 EC Astros. I don't think the impact will be that big on the other teams since their probably only looking to fill 2-3 roster spots. |
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ERROR ON 6
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Posted - 07/24/2010 : 23:22:33
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| I dont understand this at all, why would the Braves choose to change what they have worked so hard to up hold the past several years just to be named the Astro's. If Im not mistaken, the Astro's Phenomenon doesn't really take shape until the top coaches around get a hold of them at 14 and 15 years old. This year has been no different than previous years, the younger age Astro's were just above average major teams compared to the Elite of the Elite in the older age groups. It Sad to see the Braves just drop the "Brand name" they have been known for just for a team name. |
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baseballinsider
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Posted - 07/25/2010 : 00:12:16
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Really, What is the big fuss over the name of the team you play for. You are talking about 11 year old kids playing baseball not college players. Anybody that is an aggressive and good competitive coach can put together a solid baseball team. K is a good coach and he has built a good team, but how long can they all stay together and maintain this solid baseball image? Let's see what may be instore for all the 2011 11U EC teams with all the changes going on......Next season should be really interesting.......
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BravesFan
533 Posts |
Posted - 07/25/2010 : 13:32:42
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Using the Astros name is a tremendous honor for one and you get some other privileges through East Cobb but I can understand the argument against taking on the name also. If the opportunity is there, why not take it and embrace the tradition even at 11 yrs old.
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baseballinsider
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Posted - 07/25/2010 : 15:11:31
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| I agree with Error on 6. I understood that you really didn't start the "ASTRO'S until 13-14 or even 15 years old..They have had three great seasons of baseball with several different ball players from all over. Why change your team name now. Is is just for the name or to get special privileges with EC. They will have 8 or 9 of the same players so really who would have the chance to play for them. |
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oldschooldad
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Posted - 07/26/2010 : 08:51:11
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| Heard the new Astros took 2 from the Rays - SS and lefty Outfielder. If true very hard for the Rays to replace his glove at short |
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ecbinsider
318 Posts |
Posted - 07/26/2010 : 09:03:33
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I think there would have been a much bigger fuss over another team being given the Astros name don't you think? It only makes sense that the top team receive the use of the Astros name, players from all over the state already want to play for coach k so that won't change.
I would consider this more of the natural progression of things and think it's the right move. If you think about it, coach k really had no choice. If the team was awarded to another coach, everything he built could have been effected. I think most of his players would have stayed and that would of made the Astros maybe at best the 2nd best team in EC and how would that look?
And as far as next season, I think your going to see some teams start to separate themselves from the pack. I think the Astros are obviously on top but then you'll probably have 2-3 teams separate themselves from the rest of the pack at EC. I'll hold my opinion until I hear how each team did in the off-season. Hopefully, they don't add too many more teams because last year all were competitive. |
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And1
66 Posts |
Posted - 07/26/2010 : 11:03:30
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| ecbinsider...I completely agree, but now why would ecb be awarding teh 10U Astro team to a coach other than the Longhorn coach. According to your logic if the Astro name is going to be used at 10U then why on earth would the Longhorns team, which is bringing back 9 players and adding 2 from the highly successful Yankee program not be afforded the same opportunity. Coach K is awesome and deserves the chance, but the same goes for the 9U Longhorns and their rise to 10. Politics? Bad mouthing? What is it because it makes zero sense that the Astro name will be used at 10U and the Longhonrs AND Yankees will both be better teams with a better pedigree of succes last season. That means the Astros would be lucky to be #3 and that's not even taking into account the improvement of the Titans and the new teams that are coming. Bottom line, the Astro name should not be used at the 9 or 10 level and if it is then award it the same way as you are explaining in your assessment of the rising 11U program. Agree? I'm interested to se the responses |
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ecbinsider
318 Posts |
Posted - 07/26/2010 : 12:30:09
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And1,
What happened in the rising 10's is no doubt interesting to say the least, that decision seemed to come out of left field and it'll be difficult for the new coach to recruit the types of players he needs. The longhorns coach is an EC veteran and has coach Shook with him (12U Astros Coach) so not sure why they weren't picked. Probably best for someone in that age group to chime in with their thoughts. |
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And1
66 Posts |
Posted - 07/26/2010 : 14:17:40
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| ecbinsider...Coach Shook is NOT with the Longhorn coach or his staff. Matter of fact he has been linked to the "new" Astro coach. To be honest there is a lot of confusion and he said she said stuff happening around this topic at this age. The bottom line is the Longhorn Coach abided by the fact that ECB was not allowing the Astro name under the age of 11U. Bottom line with the rising Longhorn team and their 2011 additions, and the Yankees and their additions,the best team at the 10U age level will consist of an ECB team, it just won't be the Astros. Which is confusing even more since isn't that what the Astro name is supposed to represent. Please anyone chime in with your thoughts because I am looking for some sense to be made out of this.... |
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BravesFan
533 Posts |
Posted - 07/26/2010 : 15:11:46
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| Well, if the new coach has been linked to the other gentlemen you mention then you've answered your own question. I'm sure he has plenty of input with the higher ups at East Cobb, perhaps there some strong suggestions made. |
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ECAstros13Ucoach
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Posted - 07/27/2010 : 09:42:29
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Originally posted by And1
ecbinsider...Coach Shook is NOT with the Longhorn coach or his staff. Matter of fact he has been linked to the "new" Astro coach. To be honest there is a lot of confusion and he said she said stuff happening around this topic at this age. The bottom line is the Longhorn Coach abided by the fact that ECB was not allowing the Astro name under the age of 11U. Bottom line with the rising Longhorn team and their 2011 additions, and the Yankees and their additions,the best team at the 10U age level will consist of an ECB team, it just won't be the Astros. Which is confusing even more since isn't that what the Astro name is supposed to represent. Please anyone chime in with your thoughts because I am looking for some sense to be made out of this....
I am 100% sure that Shook has nothing to do with the 10U Astros. because I will be helping the 10U Astros coaching staff.
I hope that every rising 9U player wants to play for the Astros and compete at a higher level. I know that parents want their kids to get the best coaching and knowledge of the game possible.
Looking forward to working with the 10U Astros |
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12uCoach
357 Posts |
Posted - 07/27/2010 : 13:39:08
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| You know, it was only 10 long years ago when East Cobb coaches actually talked to one another in each age group and helped make all the teams in the age group competitive. Civility left in 2003 and stroking ones ego is all that is left. |
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Leebegbaseball
29 Posts |
Posted - 07/27/2010 : 16:16:49
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Why would the more talented boys at East Cobb want to play with the 10U Astros when there is no team yet. Why would they leave a team that is nationally ranked and top in the state to go to an uknown unless they knew that most of their players were going as well. Do you think any player from the 10U Braves would have left Coach K to go play for the 11U Astros team if a different coach would have been awarded the name and the core would have been remaining with the Braves. Absolutely Not!!!!
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travelballer55
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Posted - 07/28/2010 : 15:29:35
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| Leebeg - You dads don't really think these young successful teams will stay together when the true older powerhouse finally do form, do you? I'm sure the Braves are tops, but by the time "real" baseball hits when they get older, those older powerhouses will be lucky to have >1 of these youngsters. Where or who they play(ed) for at 9-10-11-12...won't mean much. Just the way it works... |
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terry mcconnell
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Posted - 07/28/2010 : 20:45:14
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| Does not matter what the name is if the Longhorns stay together they will be the # 1 team at EC hands down. A couple of years ago they awarded the Astro name late in the game at 12u and they were not close to the top team. |
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ERROR ON 6
47 Posts |
Posted - 07/28/2010 : 22:47:53
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Originally posted by terry mcconnell
Does not matter what the name is if the Longhorns stay together they will be the # 1 team at EC hands down. A couple of years ago they awarded the Astro name late in the game at 12u and they were not close to the top team.
Correct me if Im wrong but wasnt there an ECB tournament this year that was only EC teams to see who was the top team at each age group, no outside teams, no excuses, just straight up EC vs EC....and didnt the Navigators win the 9u age group?
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baseballnutz
427 Posts |
Posted - 07/29/2010 : 00:44:04
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The Longhorns are a very solid team but failed to win any of the big 4 9U tournaments they played last year. The GA NIT, the EC ABCDEFG, Triple Crown State and AAU WS. If anything the Yankees had bigger tournament wins (TC State and PC WS) but failed to beat the Longhorns heads up. The Longhorns may be the best team this season, they need to win when it matters most.
All teams are upgrading talent (that's what teams do this time of year). I'm sure that team with two NIT wins and only one loss to a 9U team all season is upgrading as well. I believe they are playing in that little tournament this week in Orlando, the Elite 32 against they best in the country. |
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jaytrae
219 Posts |
Posted - 07/29/2010 : 09:07:35
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| finally someone has said what i been wanted to say all year,please tell me(dads) what major tourny have the Great 9u ECB Longhorns have won, also daddys trust me, just because your son plays for the Astros @ ages 9-13, dosent mean he will be on the elite teams @ 15-18.And yes i do know because i have two sons that has played with Guerry, and neither one of them has played in the ECB system until ages 14,with that been said IMHO the Georgia Yarddogs are the best team at 9U this season, and they have showed it for 3 straight years. I have coach against both of them, hands down the Yarddogs are better team, and has a much better coaching staff. |
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qui-gon.jinn
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Posted - 07/29/2010 : 10:23:31
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Originally posted by terry mcconnell
Does not matter what the name is if the Longhorns stay together they will be the # 1 team at EC hands down. A couple of years ago they awarded the Astro name late in the game at 12u and they were not close to the top team.
oh, you mean the astros team that won a national championship and went to the nybc in memphis? That astros team? |
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Hillio
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Posted - 07/29/2010 : 10:24:58
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Correct me if Im wrong but wasnt there an ECB tournament this year that was only EC teams to see who was the top team at each age group, no outside teams, no excuses, just straight up EC vs EC....and didnt the Navigators win the 9u age group?
Heheh.
I was thinking the same thing...The Navs beat the Yanks and Longhorns...twice. But that wasn't supposed to happen, so it's not to be spoken of...ever. 
http://www.nwgabaseball.org/snitz/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=9456&SearchTerms=navigators |
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ecbinsider
318 Posts |
Posted - 07/29/2010 : 14:26:21
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Originally posted by And1
ecbinsider...I completely agree, but now why would ecb be awarding teh 10U Astro team to a coach other than the Longhorn coach. According to your logic if the Astro name is going to be used at 10U then why on earth would the Longhorns team, which is bringing back 9 players and adding 2 from the highly successful Yankee program not be afforded the same opportunity. Coach K is awesome and deserves the chance, but the same goes for the 9U Longhorns and their rise to 10. Politics? Bad mouthing? What is it because it makes zero sense that the Astro name will be used at 10U and the Longhonrs AND Yankees will both be better teams with a better pedigree of succes last season. That means the Astros would be lucky to be #3 and that's not even taking into account the improvement of the Titans and the new teams that are coming. Bottom line, the Astro name should not be used at the 9 or 10 level and if it is then award it the same way as you are explaining in your assessment of the rising 11U program. Agree? I'm interested to se the responses
Looks like neither coach K nor coach L will get an opportunity to coach the Astros. Coach k's website is now listed as the Braves while it was the Astros earlier this week. Not sure what is going on here but how do the two most successful coaches in their age groups not get the Astros teams? |
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Leebegbaseball
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Posted - 07/29/2010 : 14:32:08
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They were too busy winning 10U tournaments. Lets just hold off on the insulting comments about these very talented boys and let there actions determine who is the best team in the state next year.
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Originally posted by baseballnutz
The Longhorns are a very solid team but failed to win any of the big 4 9U tournaments they played last year. The GA NIT, the EC ABCDEFG, Triple Crown State and AAU WS. If anything the Yankees had bigger tournament wins (TC State and PC WS) but failed to beat the Longhorns heads up. The Longhorns may be the best team this season, they need to win when it matters most.
All teams are upgrading talent (that's what teams do this time of year). I'm sure that team with two NIT wins and only one loss to a 9U team all season is upgrading as well. I believe they are playing in that little tournament this week in Orlando, the Elite 32 against they best in the country.
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baseballnutz
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Posted - 07/29/2010 : 16:16:23
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Lee - no one is insulting anyone, just stating what took place. Everyone on this board is stating they are going to be the best and like I said they may be, but let's see them win a big tournament before we get ahead of ourselves.
Winning 10U tournaments last year was not very impressive unless the big 3 plus 1 or 2 where playing and that never took place. (No offense to other 10U teams) |
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