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| whits23 |
Posted - 02/15/2015 : 17:33:01
Since the weather is bad i thought i would put a few things down.
1. we played a tourney in fall and just won a game to go to finals and the team we were to play claimed since they were higher seed they wanted the dugout we were already in. LOL..who does that? i could see perhaps if one team had not just gotten done playing and was already in it. The baseball gods came thru. But bush league for sure
2. filling out the on line rosters every time you play a different sanction. usssa..PG, top gun. global, blah blah blah way too much trouble. Not sure good answer.
3. kids and parents who want to be on good travel teams because hey want to compete but do not want to compete for playing time within the team they are on.
4.Back to the tournaments. Directors who think they should keep a portion of entry fee if you do not play or half if you play a game? Fair or not i do not like it.
5. Tournaments who list teams coming and then the actual teams showing are not the ones listed.
6. teams who advertise they are looking for or are AAA or Major but then play at AA in non usssa events. IE claim one thing and play another. No one does it the other way around for some reason.
7. WWBA events all over the state when you think your coming to play at lakepoint or ecb and you end up with 4/5 games in a field 45 minutes away with no traffic.
8. I think that about does it for today...oh i could add Dad's with radar guns they paid 90 bucks for arguing the 1500 dollar ones scouts use are off by 5 mph on their kid. |
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| bmoser |
Posted - 03/24/2015 : 21:27:55
Since the weather is good, I thought I'd write few things down:
My Son played travel ball from T-Ball to 13U:
The dugout thing never was an issue.
Never heard our Coaches complain about having to enter rosters, and we played all over the darned place in every possible org out there.
Kids usually wound up on teams they were a good fit for. If they didn't, the parents were usually at fault...overreaching.
Tourney Directors we had worked crazy hours, and did everything they could to get every game in. God love 'em.
Tourney Directors who used false advertising didn't last long.
Coaches aspiring to the highest skill level possible...would you want anything less?
Doesn't matter where you play, baseball is baseball.
Radar guns: you are likely right on this one
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| SuperStar |
Posted - 03/19/2015 : 21:30:57
Sounds depressing bmoser. LOL! You can always beg or bribe your son back into baseball. |
| bmoser |
Posted - 03/19/2015 : 19:38:33
I almost forgot all there is to be upset about, so thank you all for helping me to convince myself that I don't miss it. (Yogi Berra)
Please be happy your kids are still playing baseball, you still get to watch, yell, complain, and post on this board. I'm jealous.
My Son now plays H.S. Tennis. No umps, or officials of any kind to yell at  . No forum to post on  . I moved my chair onto an idle adjacent court to get a better view, and DHS showed up to set things straight with me . No yelling, or giving instructions. They don't even keep stats.
The most you can do is clap...quietly, while sipping on iced tea and nibbling bon bons. And, you still have to pay money for this crap!
I can't wait until my Sons last High School match. I'm going to inject some travel baseball into this "sport". I'm crowdfunding for the bail money starting next Spring.
Your support would be GREATLY !@#$%^&*())_+ appreciated.
Now get out there and make some noise for those of us who can't!
Baseball RULES!
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| AllStar |
Posted - 03/04/2015 : 13:15:56
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Originally posted by rippit
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Originally posted by CaCO3Girl
quote:
Originally posted by Be69chevy
Ok here what irritates me....the parents of the worst players on the team complaining and b1tching about how long practice is after 1.25 hrs of a 1.5 hrs practice while I am out there as an unpaid volunteer dad try to coach a teach their kids......maybe it wouldn't be so boring for them if they worked with their sorry kids at home some on the side but no they want us to teach them everything and make them good in 2-3 hours per week...or if youre so bored just drop them off and come back and get them. We are doing the best we can but we aren't miracle workers either ....and Daddy Ball isn't the reason my kid plays a key position and bats 4...it's because I work with him every day and he is therefore good...rant over!
Not saying this is the case with you.....BUT....
Something that irritates me are DULL practices. While it is fine for a kid to have to wait a bit for their turn coaches that have all 10+ kids line up to do the exact same drill...you have multiple assistant coaches, why not break the team up in half so everyone gets more reps? Have one coach hit to second for a throw to third, have another coach hit to short for a throw to first...why do some coaches think dull/slow practices are helpful or fun?
Oh my gosh YES! To all of the above! Parents who NEVER hang around a practice and then gripe and moan and question the WHY about everything while the boys are trying to play a game...to the coaches who don't have a clue how to run a practice or the academy who sticks one coach out there with 12-13 guys to run one practice. Of course there will be standing around.
Add to that the parent who asks you (not the coach) how long will practice be. Every. Single. Time. Even though they've been given a schedule 22 times that shows every practice being from 5-7pm or 7-9pm or whatever, they still show up and ASK!
And the parents that STILL don't know how many innings we play. Talk about not being engaged enough in your son's baseball life yet you still feel licensed to sit around and b**** about everything.
And...the same parents who even at the age of 16u who haven't learned that Sunday bracket play is win or go home. "How many games do we play today?" Kill me now. I don't have a frickin' crystal ball.
Also, the parents who ask EVERY SINGLE GAME what jersey we are wearing after receiving explicit instructions 22 times that Friday is A, Saturday is B and Sunday is C. AND BRING ALL THREE JUST IN CASE. It's just not that complicated.
Or the parents that call because they can't find the field. REALLY? Or show up late non-chalantly acting like it's okay for them to wander in whenever, miss BP, and then b**** some more when Johnny doesn't start.
Can you tell I'm SO OVER IT ALL??
I could go on and on, but I need to go do some other stuff right now, but I'll probably be back.
haha and +1
I think we can close the thread....  |
| CaCO3Girl |
Posted - 03/04/2015 : 09:57:44
quote:
Originally posted by rippit
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Originally posted by CaCO3Girl
quote:
Originally posted by Be69chevy
Ok here what irritates me....the parents of the worst players on the team complaining and b1tching about how long practice is after 1.25 hrs of a 1.5 hrs practice while I am out there as an unpaid volunteer dad try to coach a teach their kids......maybe it wouldn't be so boring for them if they worked with their sorry kids at home some on the side but no they want us to teach them everything and make them good in 2-3 hours per week...or if youre so bored just drop them off and come back and get them. We are doing the best we can but we aren't miracle workers either ....and Daddy Ball isn't the reason my kid plays a key position and bats 4...it's because I work with him every day and he is therefore good...rant over!
Not saying this is the case with you.....BUT....
Something that irritates me are DULL practices. While it is fine for a kid to have to wait a bit for their turn coaches that have all 10+ kids line up to do the exact same drill...you have multiple assistant coaches, why not break the team up in half so everyone gets more reps? Have one coach hit to second for a throw to third, have another coach hit to short for a throw to first...why do some coaches think dull/slow practices are helpful or fun?
Oh my gosh YES! To all of the above! Parents who NEVER hang around a practice and then gripe and moan and question the WHY about everything while the boys are trying to play a game...to the coaches who don't have a clue how to run a practice or the academy who sticks one coach out there with 12-13 guys to run one practice. Of course there will be standing around.
Add to that the parent who asks you (not the coach) how long will practice be. Every. Single. Time. Even though they've been given a schedule 22 times that shows every practice being from 5-7pm or 7-9pm or whatever, they still show up and ASK!
And the parents that STILL don't know how many innings we play. Talk about not being engaged enough in your son's baseball life yet you still feel licensed to sit around and b**** about everything.
And...the same parents who even at the age of 16u who haven't learned that Sunday bracket play is win or go home. "How many games do we play today?" Kill me now. I don't have a frickin' crystal ball.
Also, the parents who ask EVERY SINGLE GAME what jersey we are wearing after receiving explicit instructions 22 times that Friday is A, Saturday is B and Sunday is C. AND BRING ALL THREE JUST IN CASE. It's just not that complicated.
Or the parents that call because they can't find the field. REALLY? Or show up late non-chalantly acting like it's okay for them to wander in whenever, miss BP, and then b**** some more when Johnny doesn't start.
Can you tell I'm SO OVER IT ALL??
I could go on and on, but I need to go do some other stuff right now, but I'll probably be back.
I sure hope your kid is almost out of it rippit...+10 to everything you said but for being early March, yes, you really do sound done! |
| rippit |
Posted - 03/04/2015 : 08:20:52
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Originally posted by CaCO3Girl
quote:
Originally posted by Be69chevy
Ok here what irritates me....the parents of the worst players on the team complaining and b1tching about how long practice is after 1.25 hrs of a 1.5 hrs practice while I am out there as an unpaid volunteer dad try to coach a teach their kids......maybe it wouldn't be so boring for them if they worked with their sorry kids at home some on the side but no they want us to teach them everything and make them good in 2-3 hours per week...or if youre so bored just drop them off and come back and get them. We are doing the best we can but we aren't miracle workers either ....and Daddy Ball isn't the reason my kid plays a key position and bats 4...it's because I work with him every day and he is therefore good...rant over!
Not saying this is the case with you.....BUT....
Something that irritates me are DULL practices. While it is fine for a kid to have to wait a bit for their turn coaches that have all 10+ kids line up to do the exact same drill...you have multiple assistant coaches, why not break the team up in half so everyone gets more reps? Have one coach hit to second for a throw to third, have another coach hit to short for a throw to first...why do some coaches think dull/slow practices are helpful or fun?
Oh my gosh YES! To all of the above! Parents who NEVER hang around a practice and then gripe and moan and question the WHY about everything while the boys are trying to play a game...to the coaches who don't have a clue how to run a practice or the academy who sticks one coach out there with 12-13 guys to run one practice. Of course there will be standing around.
Add to that the parent who asks you (not the coach) how long will practice be. Every. Single. Time. Even though they've been given a schedule 22 times that shows every practice being from 5-7pm or 7-9pm or whatever, they still show up and ASK!
And the parents that STILL don't know how many innings we play. Talk about not being engaged enough in your son's baseball life yet you still feel licensed to sit around and b**** about everything.
And...the same parents who even at the age of 16u who haven't learned that Sunday bracket play is win or go home. "How many games do we play today?" Kill me now. I don't have a frickin' crystal ball.
Also, the parents who ask EVERY SINGLE GAME what jersey we are wearing after receiving explicit instructions 22 times that Friday is A, Saturday is B and Sunday is C. AND BRING ALL THREE JUST IN CASE. It's just not that complicated.
Or the parents that call because they can't find the field. REALLY? Or show up late non-chalantly acting like it's okay for them to wander in whenever, miss BP, and then b**** some more when Johnny doesn't start.
Can you tell I'm SO OVER IT ALL??
I could go on and on, but I need to go do some other stuff right now, but I'll probably be back.
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| SuperStar |
Posted - 03/03/2015 : 14:36:06
quote:
Originally posted by Be69chevy
Ok here what irritates me....the parents of the worst players on the team complaining and b1tching about how long practice is after 1.25 hrs of a 1.5 hrs practice while I am out there as an unpaid volunteer dad try to coach a teach their kids......maybe it wouldn't be so boring for them if they worked with their sorry kids at home some on the side but no they want us to teach them everything and make them good in 2-3 hours per week...or if youre so bored just drop them off and come back and get them. We are doing the best we can but we aren't miracle workers either ....and Daddy Ball isn't the reason my kid plays a key position and bats 4...it's because I work with him every day and he is therefore good...rant over!
I feel ya Chevy. That is all I'm saying as well. The kids have to do the work, plain and simple. My kid works extremely hard to get to where he is at and that is why he is successful. Pushups, sit ups, stretching, etc during the week plus regular practices. The kids that need to work on their game does not. It's kind of like the Titans Sports Academy says... "Train insane or remain the same". That is so true. You can't expect to be a great player if you don't do the leg work. A prime example was this past weekend in the Triple Crown Tourney. I kept telling the kids to stretch so they don't injure themselves, but no, they wasn't going to waste their time doing that. And guess what happend? Two of our kids came up lame in the 3rd inning of the game with a pulled calf muscle and a pulled back muscle. As a result, they were automatic outs every time it was their turn to bat. That killed us! With all this being said, I'm not a tyrant. I believe all kids deserve to play the game. That is why there is all different levels. If you want to play on the major level, then you better train like an athlete, or otherwise, the "lazy" kid is going to let themselves down as well as the other players. Everyone have a nice day!!! |
| SSBuckeye |
Posted - 03/03/2015 : 13:55:54
Dull practices kill the love of the game. 100% spot on there. |
| CaCO3Girl |
Posted - 03/03/2015 : 09:28:38
quote:
Originally posted by Be69chevy
Ok here what irritates me....the parents of the worst players on the team complaining and b1tching about how long practice is after 1.25 hrs of a 1.5 hrs practice while I am out there as an unpaid volunteer dad try to coach a teach their kids......maybe it wouldn't be so boring for them if they worked with their sorry kids at home some on the side but no they want us to teach them everything and make them good in 2-3 hours per week...or if youre so bored just drop them off and come back and get them. We are doing the best we can but we aren't miracle workers either ....and Daddy Ball isn't the reason my kid plays a key position and bats 4...it's because I work with him every day and he is therefore good...rant over!
Not saying this is the case with you.....BUT....
Something that irritates me are DULL practices. While it is fine for a kid to have to wait a bit for their turn coaches that have all 10+ kids line up to do the exact same drill...you have multiple assistant coaches, why not break the team up in half so everyone gets more reps? Have one coach hit to second for a throw to third, have another coach hit to short for a throw to first...why do some coaches think dull/slow practices are helpful or fun? |
| brball |
Posted - 03/02/2015 : 23:21:41
Tell us how you really feel chevy... Been there, done that. So called daddy ball, my son was the P, OF, batting #3... Now he's on his own still as a P, OF and has found a love for the hot corner @ 3B and still bats 3-5! I guess my point is, daddy ball is hated for all the wrong reasons! |
| Be69chevy |
Posted - 03/02/2015 : 21:23:30
Ok here what irritates me....the parents of the worst players on the team complaining and b1tching about how long practice is after 1.25 hrs of a 1.5 hrs practice while I am out there as an unpaid volunteer dad try to coach a teach their kids......maybe it wouldn't be so boring for them if they worked with their sorry kids at home some on the side but no they want us to teach them everything and make them good in 2-3 hours per week...or if youre so bored just drop them off and come back and get them. We are doing the best we can but we aren't miracle workers either ....and Daddy Ball isn't the reason my kid plays a key position and bats 4...it's because I work with him every day and he is therefore good...rant over! |
| whits23 |
Posted - 03/01/2015 : 20:14:53
allstar not sure i complain about it but i never liked cooperstown and took teams 2x. i just want games and competition. I will take the WWBA at age 16 thru 18 anyday. BUT i would still go again and probably not like it again but its not always about me.
And yes i love HS and College dugout chatter Especially if its creative. If your smart keep off social media as when your at bat player and fan's have all the info they need to fire away. |
| whits23 |
Posted - 03/01/2015 : 20:08:37
I could stand on either side of the fence on this but will ramble on both.
I agree with both sides i hate to see 5 dads on the field running a practice BUT i also have seen dad's who are good coaches. My son had the best coach he has ever had at age 12 and it was coached by a dad of one of the players. i think 8 are playing college and 1 in pro ball. The coach is now part of canes baseball out of NC.
I have coached my kids at times and cut one from my team at age 10 when he did not make the team. Wife was not happy but he is now a soccer player and loves it.
The statement i hate to hears is "i am harder on my kid than anyone" well that is still a different treatment. Treat him like you would any other player. Like it or not most coaches kids are good because their parent played sports and thus they learn from them. Genetics do count.
Also some dad's want nothing to do with coaching but then see what is available to coach their kid and figure they need to do it or they will not learn the right way.
Ideally i prefer a head coach who has no kid on the team but can also rely on parents to help out as needed.
Now i would be willing to bet a lot of people who complain about daddy ball at age 15 complain high school is all politics as they can no longer blame the daddy ball for failures.
Their are paid coaches who have no clue how to coach kids and really do not care. They just show up make a lineup and run the team. Some are with a different team each weekend as the academy just tells them where to go. On the other hand there are **** good paid coaches and darn good dad coaches. There are also dad coaches who just want to make sure their kid is on the team. Such is life in the workplace when the owners kid becomes the manager LOL
Has anyone played yet this fall? I hope to soon and i also hope to hit the college ball circuit soon. |
| hshuler |
Posted - 02/28/2015 : 16:18:28
I agree, Buckeye! I have NEVER heard one parent say "my kid simply wasn't good enough!" There is no shame in that. It's always the coach or burnout. Funny how kids only burnout when adults are involved. |
| SSBuckeye |
Posted - 02/28/2015 : 15:23:58
Daddy ball is real. It just gets blamed on everything and it does get old. I guarantee that at least half the posts on daddy ball are from people who over-inflate their kid's play. It is what it is. |
| hshuler |
Posted - 02/28/2015 : 09:20:20
I get what bballman is saying. Although daddyball is very real in some cases, it's just an excuse for some whose kids aren't as good as the parents think in others. |
| SuperStar |
Posted - 02/26/2015 : 22:24:41
Pushed a button..., huh bballman. This is not a post on "daddy ball", it a post on things that irritate folks. It just happened to be on the list.  |
| bballman |
Posted - 02/26/2015 : 18:33:43
One thing that irritates me is all the posts on "daddy ball"...
I'll leave it at that. It gets old. |
| SuperStar |
Posted - 02/26/2015 : 16:43:17
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Originally posted by AllStar
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Originally posted by SuperStar
Looks like this thread turned into strictly about high school baseball complaining. LOL! For me, one of my biggest complaints would be players winding up on the wrong teams. Don't get me wrong, all players deserve to play. That is why there is all different levels. And half the time, the players that should not be on the team could care less anyway. They usually are what I call "grandfathered" in. The parents are friends with the coaches, or somebody is someone's boss, etc. They never really give an effort to get better. In the end, it's just not fair to the other players that carry all the weight and want to be competitive. JMO I realize it is part of it, it just gets frustrating at times!
Actually very little complaining about HS baseball in this thread and I never really saw this "grandfathering" happen. If it's a new trend, I'm glad my son is done. He's now doing a "sports" show at his college radio station.
And by sports show, I mean sitting there shooting the bull with one of his fraternity brothers with a mic in front of them. lol
If you (your son) have never participated in "Daddy Ball" throughout his entire baseball career, then y'all are very fortunate. There is always someone that don't belong on a team.
Congrats on your son's college radio show! I know you must be proud. Hopefully he has a great opportunity ahead of him. Good Luck! |
| AllStar |
Posted - 02/26/2015 : 11:30:02
quote:
Originally posted by SuperStar
Looks like this thread turned into strictly about high school baseball complaining. LOL! For me, one of my biggest complaints would be players winding up on the wrong teams. Don't get me wrong, all players deserve to play. That is why there is all different levels. And half the time, the players that should not be on the team could care less anyway. They usually are what I call "grandfathered" in. The parents are friends with the coaches, or somebody is someone's boss, etc. They never really give an effort to get better. In the end, it's just not fair to the other players that carry all the weight and want to be competitive. JMO I realize it is part of it, it just gets frustrating at times!
Actually very little complaining about HS baseball in this thread and I never really saw this "grandfathering" happen. If it's a new trend, I'm glad my son is done. He's now doing a "sports" show at his college radio station.
And by sports show, I mean sitting there shooting the bull with one of his fraternity brothers with a mic in front of them. lol |
| SuperStar |
Posted - 02/25/2015 : 20:49:42
Looks like this thread turned into strictly about high school baseball complaining. LOL! For me, one of my biggest complaints would be players winding up on the wrong teams. Don't get me wrong, all players deserve to play. That is why there is all different levels. And half the time, the players that should not be on the team could care less anyway. They usually are what I call "grandfathered" in. The parents are friends with the coaches, or somebody is someone's boss, etc. They never really give an effort to get better. In the end, it's just not fair to the other players that carry all the weight and want to be competitive. JMO I realize it is part of it, it just gets frustrating at times! |
| Tribe |
Posted - 02/25/2015 : 19:07:09
I agree with most of this conversation, but I have to say, I really enjoy the student-on-student heckling that takes place in high school and college games...even when my kid is the target of it.
Parents should never participate, and I can't endorse it for the younger guys, but dang, some of these student hecklers are hilarious.
...And don't forget, heckling has been part of the game since before any of us were born..
A relevant quote from back in the day: "What is both surprising and delightful is that spectators are allowed, and even expected, to join in the vocal part of the game.... There is no reason why the field should not try to put the batsman off his stroke at the critical moment by neatly timed disparagements of his wife's fidelity and his mother's respectability." ~George Bernard Shaw |
| AllStar |
Posted - 02/25/2015 : 16:33:20
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Originally posted by tuffmavrick
Taunting and getting after it is one thing but laughing and making fun of 8,9,10,11u kids can be cruel. I know what you are saying about high school and getting after the other team that is expectedbut that is different than just humiliating kids for trying at earlier ages crosses lines.
What I'm saying is sportsmanship is just as important as teaching the skills and rules of the game especially at the early ages.
1000% agree. |
| kidsgame |
Posted - 02/25/2015 : 14:16:13
Bad behavior at any age is bound to provoke some unfortunate baseball karma. The Golden Rule is applicable. Gotta respect the game. |
| tuffmavrick |
Posted - 02/25/2015 : 12:45:49
Taunting and getting after it is one thing but laughing and making fun of 8,9,10,11u kids can be cruel. I know what you are saying about high school and getting after the other team that is expectedbut that is different than just humiliating kids for trying at earlier ages crosses lines.
What I'm saying is sportsmanship is just as important as teaching the skills and rules of the game especially at the early ages. |
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