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25LOVESTHEGAME Posted - 08/13/2008 : 07:24:54
How many of the "Elite" 12/13 U players that are not currently playing at EC (bombers, Vipers, Bulldog, Crush etc) are going to EC in 2009????
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saline2008 Posted - 08/21/2008 : 09:35:12
Historically, I do stand corrected regarding the top 13......I was not there so I did not see who was there......I just know a large group of kids that were not there..... I still think the scales tip toward those few teams that will bring back core top level players compared to what works out to be kind of a "one year wonder" team.... At least at this age.....Maybe later not so much. As for those players staying down for the Astro's.....All of the top teams have this....There will be far more 8th graders playing 13U next year than some think. Most of the top teams will fill their rosters with bithday babies.
travelmom Posted - 08/21/2008 : 00:00:38
MAMA BEE..

THE VIPERS DID LET SOME BOYS GO. They aren't keeping the same 11 boys.
greglomax Posted - 08/20/2008 : 21:48:02
saline2008,
If you look back, 25's reference was around the top kids at the tryout.

What will be interesting is seeing the incorporation of some of these kids that played 13 last year come back and play at this age group again next year. Having 4 or 5 of those can drastically change the landscape of a team.

Regardless, it will be interesting.
mamabee Posted - 08/20/2008 : 19:17:05
quote:
Originally posted by saline2008

Love,

Believe me...the top 13 players in this area ARE NOT on the same team...They are not even on the same two or three team....and certainly not all on the Astro's....You got the best players from the VIPERS are still VIPERS.....you got the best of the BULLDOGS are still BULLDOGS.....You still got great players on the Crush...on the Bombers.....Hobgood Heat, Roswell Hornets, Etc.....and the main thing is who is making the determination about which are the best? At best, you can only comment about the best players that showed up for the try out... and that is either based on this past season or one weekend.



I do beleive that from those first 4 teams you say , vipers bombers crush bulldogs , each had several very good players who didnt show for the ECB tryouts.

So you cant get the best of the best anyway when that happens.
ECB_Insider Posted - 08/20/2008 : 14:34:03
Saline,
He said the top 13 at the tryout, not the top 13 in this age group.
25LOVESTHEGAME Posted - 08/20/2008 : 14:23:23
Sal, i didnt say in the area, I said at the tryout. You have select players on the teams you mentioned, youll have 13-15 top notch kids on the Astros. Trust me I know a bunch of "Astro Type" players on other teams. Im from Pennsylvania, this area is LOADED with talented youth baseball players.
saline2008 Posted - 08/20/2008 : 14:07:04
Love,

Believe me...the top 13 players in this area ARE NOT on the same team...They are not even on the same two or three team....and certainly not all on the Astro's....You got the best players from the VIPERS are still VIPERS.....you got the best of the BULLDOGS are still BULLDOGS.....You still got great players on the Crush...on the Bombers.....Hobgood Heat, Roswell Hornets, Etc.....and the main thing is who is making the determination about which are the best? At best, you can only comment about the best players that showed up for the try out... and that is either based on this past season or one weekend.
25LOVESTHEGAME Posted - 08/20/2008 : 12:38:11
The players will be practicing together side by side and playing games together. When they were on seperate teams its tough to compare talent levels. Im guessing they ALL wont be playing full time. The cream will rise to the top. Im assuming they will all be fighting for playing time. Or if they prove to be pretty similar a rotation may be put in place. All I know is it is going to be fun to watch. and yes im aware that im guessing and assuming......
25LOVESTHEGAME Posted - 08/20/2008 : 12:28:20
Well there may be 1 or 2 out of the "Top" 16 that arent picked or decide to play elsewhere. But when the roster comes out we can all do our own evaluation.
closer Posted - 08/20/2008 : 12:11:46
I can't imagine the "top" 13 or so being on the same team. You play an average of 7 games per tournament (assuming you are in the championship) and 7 innings per game (assuming you run rule no one). 49 inning with 9 positions on the field. If my math is correct, if all players play the same amount of time, each player will be on the field around 4 innings per game or 28 of the 49 innings played in the tournament.
25LOVESTHEGAME Posted - 08/20/2008 : 11:16:54
Saline, if the top 13 or so from the 13s tryout are on the same team, I cant imagine any team around here being as strong as they are.
saline2008 Posted - 08/19/2008 : 22:39:44
QGJ,

Don't know what team you are talking about that is/has been so prolific "blowing up their team every two years"..... I have been around for a while and never heard about THAT team....The successful teams are those that have shown stability and have some chemistry. I do agree that the top teams make adjustments every year but rarely more than a couple of players. I still say that is no longer a given that the best teams in an age group wear ECB colors.... They did not at 12U nor 13U last year and they likely will not again this year. This is not trashing ECB. But rather demonstrating how strong baseball has become in this area....and for the record, my son plays at ECB.
sandlot Posted - 08/19/2008 : 16:39:00
You know year after year these same teams with the same players always end up being the top teams in Ga! Instead of blowing themselves up, they keep blowing the competition up,Wow! Somebody better enlighten the coaching staff of these teams as to what it takes to be successful! Oh yeah, forgot to mention not only successful in Ga, but also nationally, check out the latest TBS rankings on how these same teams, with the same players are doing. But then again I'm sure that nobody would want these talented kids because they have always played together and have not had a chance to grow!!! Congratulations to all these teams!
greglomax Posted - 08/19/2008 : 16:24:45
ingasven,
What are you doing this next year?
Dr. Old School Posted - 08/19/2008 : 14:02:20
Inga,
There is not doubt about that. They will definately be a contender in GA and nationally.

It will be fun to see all the teams and players transition to the next size field. 54/80 will change some players games. Any teams trying to go up and play 60/90 will definately be in for a change.
ingasven Posted - 08/19/2008 : 09:40:29
Dr,

Even if the Vipers lose one or two and add one or two they will certainly still be strong.
Dr. Old School Posted - 08/18/2008 : 17:15:04
Mamabee,
Are all 11 Vipers staying put?
qui-gon.jinn Posted - 08/18/2008 : 11:55:12
quote:
Originally posted by mamabee

well the Vipers dont change their players.

i dont know the Bulldog much about their workings but the Bombers defenite will be looking for a number of players . with that in mind once the season is started only then we will see and know , Saline.



too bad, mamabee.

I guess you and the other parents believe that this coaching staff has what it takes to teach your kids how to play the game the way the high school and college coaches want them to play the game.

Successful teams blow themselves up every 2 years or so, so that the players really do have a chance to grow.
mamabee Posted - 08/18/2008 : 10:27:24
quote:
Originally posted by saline2008

Is it just me or does it seem the fragrance is off the rose? The top teams from last year (Vipers, Bulldogs, Crush, Bombers) appear to have made few but strategic pickups that will only make them better. The top talent in the area no longer feels like that is only one place (ECB) to play top level baseball. I would expect the top three teams in the area to come from the above four.



well the Vipers dont change their players.

i dont know the Bulldog much about their workings but the Bombers defenite will be looking for a number of players . with that in mind once the season is started only then we will see and know , Saline.
ECB_Insider Posted - 08/18/2008 : 09:39:07
saline,
While I fully believe the teams you listed above will be some of the top teams around again next year, there is no doubt to anyone that watched the tryouts that the 13U Astros will be even stronger than the past #1 team coming out of EC for this rising age group. With 3 or 4 players that played 13U last year coming to play, I think everyone is going to be surprised at how this team stacks up.
saline2008 Posted - 08/17/2008 : 23:23:31
Is it just me or does it seem the fragrance is off the rose? The top teams from last year (Vipers, Bulldogs, Crush, Bombers) appear to have made few but strategic pickups that will only make them better. The top talent in the area no longer feels like that is only one place (ECB) to play top level baseball. I would expect the top three teams in the area to come from the above four.
scotsar Posted - 08/17/2008 : 19:18:19
quote:
Originally posted by sandlot
[ " These are the Days of our lives!" Never a dull moment.



sandlot Posted - 08/17/2008 : 10:26:00
Yeah, I don't....It's kinda like a soap opera, "As the roster's turn, These are the Days of our lives!" Never a dull moment.
greglomax Posted - 08/16/2008 : 23:30:43
Sandlot,
Don't believe everything you hear.
scotsar Posted - 08/16/2008 : 15:26:01
quote:
Originally posted by HITANDRUN

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