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| 4bagger |
Posted - 03/06/2013 : 09:42:42
When seeding using Win-Loss record as the first criteria, how are ties factored in?
Does a team with a record of 1-1-0 automatically get seeded higher than a team with a 0-0-2 record? Are they the same win percentage so you need to move to the next seeding criteria?
Certainly 0-0-2 seeds higher than 0-2-0. |
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| Rick Cosper |
Posted - 03/07/2013 : 15:18:10
Was late when I posted the 1st time.
This is the correct way to seed after 2 pool play games.
Wins are seeded 1st:
2-0-0 - 2 wins
1-0-1 - 1 win - tie is better than a loss
1-1-0 - 1 win - 1 loss.
No wins are seeded next:
0-0-2 - no loss
0-1-1 - one loss
0-2-0 - 2 losses
(look at the loss column, from top to bottom it goes- 0 - 1 - 2) |
| Dr. Old School |
Posted - 03/07/2013 : 10:48:37
Rick,
I think you swapped these two up. Your description is right but the the wins/losses/ties are backwards.
This is what you had:
1-1-0 - 1 win - tie is better than a loss
1-0-1 - 1 win - 1 loss.
This is what you meant, I believe:
1-0-1 - 1 win - tie is better than a loss
1-1-0 - 1 win - 1 loss.
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| CoachRB |
Posted - 03/07/2013 : 08:41:50
quote:
Originally posted by Rick Cosper
This is the correct way to seed after 2 pool play games.
Wins are seeded 1st:
2-0-0 - 2 wins
1-1-0 - 1 win - tie is better than a loss
1-0-1 - 1 win - 1 loss.
No wins are seeded next:
0-2-0 - no loss
0-1-1 - one loss
0-0-2 - 2 losses
(look at the loss column, from top to bottom it goes- 0 - 1 - 2)
Generally, it goes wins - losses - ties. |
| LLH |
Posted - 03/07/2013 : 06:52:48
Maybe the original post should have mentioned the tournament organization. My reply was for how Triple Crown does it. |
| 4bagger |
Posted - 03/06/2013 : 21:41:42
I think a little more clarity from TDs would help. The statement "First criteria is Win-Loss" does not tell you if they mean highest winning percentage (1-1-0 = 0-0-2) or if they mean most wins/least losses (1-1-0 seeds higher than 0-0-2 which seeds higher than 0-1-1). |
| Dr. Old School |
Posted - 03/06/2013 : 15:54:22
LLH is right. Anyone seeding differently is doing it incorrectly. It seem wrong, but a tie is a half win and a half loss, so they have the same record as a 1-1 team. Next tie breaker usually comes runs allowed.
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| spliter |
Posted - 03/06/2013 : 12:16:36
[quote]Originally posted by LLH
A tie counts as 1/2 a win and 1/2 a loss.So the team that went 1-1-0 would have the same record. Meaning you should go to the next tie breaker which is usually runs allowed.
If this is the case the 0-2 team should have been seeded higher. Someone boo booed. |
| mrbama31 |
Posted - 03/06/2013 : 11:47:55
quote:
Originally posted by LLH
A tie counts as 1/2 a win and 1/2 a loss.So the team that went 1-1-0 would have the same record. Meaning you should go to the next tie breaker which is usually runs allowed.
Not in my experience... 1-1 seeds higher in most formats than 0-0-2.
Most tournaments seeds based on ...
1.Most Wins
2.Least Losses
And ties do not come into play...Meaning 1-1 has 1 win... 0-0-2 has no wins...
Therefore 1-1 seeds higher..
When comparing no win teams....0-0-2 has no losses...0-2 has 2 losses...therefore...0-0-2 seeds higher than 0-2 or 0-1-1 |
| LLH |
Posted - 03/06/2013 : 10:47:55
A tie counts as 1/2 a win and 1/2 a loss.So the team that went 1-1-0 would have the same record. Meaning you should go to the next tie breaker which is usually runs allowed. |
