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| DeadHead |
Posted - 08/14/2012 : 16:15:03
Wonder what peoples thought are on this. Is it at the offer and saying yes, or when money is put towards the team? What about if a coach offers a spot but is told player is going to other tryouts and coach says spot is players until taken? Do you just say yes and go to tryouts anyway? Heard of this going on alot this year. Just wondering other opinions on this. Can see it both ways. |
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| BBall123 |
Posted - 08/27/2012 : 20:38:37
quote:
Originally posted by PBK84
Is there ever a reason that you could uncommit to a team? Without being on the "black ball list"
ex.Coach promisedone things and it turned out to be another..
I think there are legitimate reasons for backing out, A family emergency such as health issues or a lost job etc. these things cant be helped and anyone with a half a brain should understand them. If they cant, you DONT want to be involved with them anyway. |
| jay |
Posted - 08/27/2012 : 15:55:46
LOLLLLL.... Holiday Inn, that's good.
Kg, Always be wary before taking the bait. :) In any event, I think it's stupid simple myself. You make a commitment you fulfill it. Also, you don't judge another persons decisions. I assume that everyone will fulfill their commitments and that they will have a very good reason if they don't. One which I don't require being informed of.
I simply prepare contingencies in the event I'm told that someone can't fulfill their commitment. :)
To answer DH's specific wondering, people tend to have fewer reasons for changing their mind after they've written the first check. |
| ramman999 |
Posted - 08/27/2012 : 14:55:32
quote:
Originally posted by jay
Ramman999 got it in one. He's either REALLY REALLY REALLY old or a fast learner.
LOL - no not too old, but I tend to pick up things quickly.. Plus I stayed at a holiday inn express once, so I got that going for me :)
To your point, you need to do best for your child, and sometimes that will throw all logic out the window - I don't judge others, but my kids know they don't get to step away from a commitment once they've made it - that to me is part of the privilege of being able to play. Maybe that makes me old! |
| kidsgame |
Posted - 08/27/2012 : 14:15:02
Ugh! Jay - not sure how much of this you really mean, as you seem to admit that you're trying to get folks to take the bait. This issue is not that complicated, friends. |
| kidsgame |
Posted - 08/27/2012 : 13:56:36
Great analogy to a "job offer" - it really is that simple. There is a right way to handle an offer to play on a travel baseball team, just like there is a right way to handle a job offer. Just do the right thing, and everything else will work out.
And, I understand that players and parents may feel "pressure" to choose the right team for thier child. But, if you get more than one "job offer," you should feel flattered - those teams think so highly of your child and of you as parents that they want you to join their team. Feel flattered and be gracious, especially if your child has "leverage."
A year or so ago, a valued player on our team, from a well-liked family, decided to change to a different team. It seemed that our whole team heaped on the pressure to get them to stay. I am sure they felt considerable stress to make the right decision for their son. But, I recall thinking at the time how flattered and proud that they should be - would that their son ever again has so many thinking so highly of him and wanting him to be a part of the team! Hopefully, many of our kiddos will feel that kind of "pressure" along the way, in travel ball and in life. (We were sad to see that particular player go to a new travel team, but absolutely love seeing him and his family at the park!) |
| jay |
Posted - 08/27/2012 : 13:26:54
There were a couple variations on the responses, but there were at least two that took the bait (on the hook). In any event, I was purposefully vague in order to increase my chances of getting the desired response. Which is we're not having a discussion on honor, or principles or the like. The problem revolves around people simply being people which is a VERY good thing all things considered. It's like getting upset about the unpredictability of the weather.
Do you know for a fact that there was an offer? A committment? Was there a contract? Was it taped? Perhaps a transcript so those that WERE there could review it for accuracy? These questions are in no way meant to imply that there should be contracts. It would be a crazy way to go thru life. Simply meant, what one person says is not always what another person hears. I would think that that would be obvious to most people. Unless they haven't learned that yet.
Let's assume for the sake of argument, that the offer was made and accepted; which I think where the main point of this thread was headed. Then the parents up and win the lottery. Now they're off to sunny Bora Bora and the coach is hacked off. He understands because he'd (likely) do the same thing and it gives him the opportunity to add yet another item to his "I've seen it all" list. Personally, I'd be mad anyway because nobody bails on my team for Bora Bora. Paris, I get that; not Bora Bora. I digress...or did I?
Maybe they felt they had a good reason to withdraw their commitment? Just maybe Interpol got wind of their living in Hotlanta as a direct result of their attending your practice. It could happen. Heck, I had parents change their mind after having had to pray about it. Which makes me wonder just what the big guy told em that he couldn't tell me? I go to church as often as I can when we don't have a tournament game on Sunday. The point is I don't know and I typically don't want to know (about them not Him), it's not gonna bring them back and I'm just gonna disagree with why they changed their mind anyway. Best to wish them luck and move on.
Ramman999 got it in one. He's either REALLY REALLY REALLY old or a fast learner.
It's a life lesson. Adults should have learned most of these by now. You accept a position and something better comes along. You **** well take the better position if you just won the proverbial lottery. You owe it to your family, son, whatever. I'll grant you that it sucks being on the receiving end and I know I would never do it unless it's a significant improvement. Where you're going to disagree is my significant is your insignificant. He who hath no sin casteth the first stone. See!!! I'm spiritual! What the heck did you tell them?!? Sorry, I had to get that out. Maybe he's listening on the internet waves.
As ramman999 pointed out, you do that enough and you're reputation begins to precede you. So, it better be worth it. Only you decide what's worth it and what's not. Don't let people think for you, make your own mistakes and all that stuff.
No one is going to make a list of what are acceptable reasons and what are unacceptable reasons. This should be firmly filed under the heading of "People are gonna be people and who am I to say that my principles are any better than the next guy and if your prayers were answered and they relate to someone else then tell the someone else what the answer was". I only have 4 drawers in my filing cabinet with really big labels. |
| peashooter |
Posted - 08/27/2012 : 12:43:17
Ram: good analogy, I guess in the end there are too many teams and not enough talent. Supply and demand issue. Take your work analogy, if you had 5 places hiring like mad, you would wait it out and play them against each other. You have the leverage. That's the problem with youth baseball. The 12yr olds and parents have the leverage. |
| bballman |
Posted - 08/27/2012 : 12:28:34
quote:
Originally posted by ramman999
Look, it is simple - these are life lessons... Integrity, honor and commitment...
Here's an analogy for you..
When you go out and interview for a job, do you interview for only one, wait until they make a decision on you and wait to accept or not before going out to continue looking?
NO...
You interview a few places, as offers come in, you determine which one fits your needs/skills better, and you accept one - its called a calculated risk... It could be company #1 or #4. Hopefully you've done your homework on each company and thought about the pros and cons of each job/company.
If you chose to accept early on the first offer that comes in, you run a risk of missing others - and if you wait until something better comes along, you run the risk of losing the one you have in hand. What a dilemma! What do you do? You make the best decision you can at that time.
Or you can accept the first job, and a week before you start you get a better offer - you jump ship, destroying a little bit of your reputation in the process. Do it enough times and no one locally will want to hire you..
Good analogy. It also applies in terms of going to your first interview and the company offers. You have to make a decision. You can tell them you are interviewing other places and you are not ready to make a decision. The employer will put a time limit on that offer. If you wait too long, they may make their offer to someone else. Yes, it is a risk. However, I think once you say yes and commit, you should stick it out - even if another, better, offer comes in. If you didn't plan on sticking with the company you committed to, you shouldn't have said yes.
Wait to say yes until you are sure. I know this, if you told company A you accept their offer and then back out - in your words ramman999, you will wind up "destroying a little bit of your reputation in the process. Do it enough times and no one locally will want to hire you..". Then you wind up in the situation discussed in another thread - you get blackballed. Yes, it's real life. One thing for certain, company A will NEVER consider you as a potential hire again. They will let other people in their industry know that you are not someone that holds true to your word (it's a small world in any industry - and these people do talk to each other. At lunches, conventions, trade meetings, chamber of commerce meetings, etc...). Those other companies will say - if he did it to them, he'll do it to me.
Teach your kids right from an early age. If you agree to do something, just do it. If you're not completely sure you want to do it, just let them know that. Take your chances with trying to make the team you really want to be on. If it doesn't work out, then you'll have to find something else. Everything is a risk. The only thing you really have control over is your own actions and your own integrity. Why develop the reputation of someone who cannot be counted on? |
| ramman999 |
Posted - 08/27/2012 : 11:33:21
Look, it is simple - these are life lessons... Integrity, honor and commitment...
Here's an analogy for you..
When you go out and interview for a job, do you interview for only one, wait until they make a decision on you and wait to accept or not before going out to continue looking?
NO...
You interview a few places, as offers come in, you determine which one fits your needs/skills better, and you accept one - its called a calculated risk... It could be company #1 or #4. Hopefully you've done your homework on each company and thought about the pros and cons of each job/company.
If you chose to accept early on the first offer that comes in, you run a risk of missing others - and if you wait until something better comes along, you run the risk of losing the one you have in hand. What a dilemma! What do you do? You make the best decision you can at that time.
Or you can accept the first job, and a week before you start you get a better offer - you jump ship, destroying a little bit of your reputation in the process. Do it enough times and no one locally will want to hire you..
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| bballman |
Posted - 08/27/2012 : 09:16:46
Jay,
So, I guess it's OK to lie and not keep your word once you are an "adult". Just because it may be perceived as the norm now, does not make it right. Maybe I'm old fashioned, but I still believe in integrity. I still believe that if you tell someone you are going to do something, you do it. It's not a matter of being an adult, it's a matter of being an honest, trustworthy person. I want to do my best to be that way and I want my kids to grow up that way. If being an "adult" means that you have learned the ways of the world and honesty and integrity don't mean anything any more, than I don't want to grow up and my kids can stay kids.
Just do what you say you are going to do and treat others with the same respect you would like to be treated with and it will all be good. Just because you are an "adult" doesn't mean you abandon these principles. |
| 4bagger |
Posted - 08/27/2012 : 09:14:32
Jay just made throwitarounds argument better than throw did himself. It sounds like as long as Jay or his kid is benefitting than Jay is fine with it.
There ARE things such as honor, respect and principle and when you throw that aside just to have a perceived better name on the front of your jersey then you are wrong. You can try and justify it all you want by saying "people do it all the time for a littany of reasons" but THAT is childish. People take drugs all the time, people commit crimes all the time, players use the juice all the time, none of those are acceptable for your kid are they?
Throws point was the "me" society that has grown in this world and Jay, you just proved it. There's no "I" in team but there is a "me" huh? |
| throwitaround |
Posted - 08/26/2012 : 22:26:08
Which comments Jay? You threw a broad net out. If you give examples we can possibly discuss them - as adults of course. |
| jay |
Posted - 08/26/2012 : 21:59:05
Hmmm... I guess I can understand some of these comments if they were from children but it gets difficult when I'm certain that they are from parents and coaches.
I've considered numerous ways to weigh in on this topic. Normally I just ignore them. I'm certain several will have wished I ignored this one as well. Call it a moment of weakness...wouldn't be the first. I apologize in advance for not hitting the delete key. **** the torpedoes full steam ahead..[$%#@, just dated myself]...
If you're an adult and you still get upset because someone jilted you for a "perceived" better deal, you need to stop acting like a 12 year old and grow up. People do it all the time for a littany of reasons. Pick your logic path...respect, principle, honor it doesn't matter. You'll have as many coherent arguments for as against for each of them. These are issues that children get upset about. I feel like I'm listening to my old man complaining about the weather man getting upset because it's raining and the forecast was sunshine.
If you are genuinely interested in why parents commit and then withdraw their commitment then you have the beginnings of an "adult" conversation.
And if you're curious about my philosophy on the concept of "team" then we're REALLY having an adult conversation. |
| bbmom2 |
Posted - 08/24/2012 : 14:00:06
quote:
Originally posted by throwitaround
Welcome to the new society I like to call the "me" society. It is no longer about team when it comes to sports. The focus is on getting our kids ready to take on the world as an individual and to work in silos to solve problems. Can't blame them when the examples they are surrounded by foster the illusion that the grass is going to always be greener. A society has been built where comittment is the least of importance (high divorce rate, changing schools to be on a better team, etc.). Sports are not immune to this. I would like to think there is still a core of people in the baseball community who believe when they say yes they mean yes. I certainly believe that once you tell a coach you are with him then you stay with him and do all you can to work through issues. After we comitted, we continued to get offers but never waivered or even thought about changing our mind (and they were some very good offers). I hope that by doing so, I have passed along a valuable lesson to my kids that is quickly going extinct in all areas of society. Now, if the coach is a bum and has taught your 12 year old how to chew tobacco or smoke then yes, you uncommit. But NEVER uncommit just because the name on the shirt says Astros, Yankees, Cougars, Titans, etc (just team names with no exact example in mind). Good luck to those parents who play this game every year. I hope it works out and you are able to achieve that baseball utopia you are looking for.
100,000% agree here. Whole nuther topic on whole nuther forum but teaching responsibility is more and more difficult year after year. I grew up getting spanked and having chores and earning my spending money not because I was entitled to it because I was breathing.
We left one team one time due to some issues that were not being handled at all with discipline and attitude and it became unbearable. The rest of the time, we have danced with who brung us. And sometimes that meant gut checks on our players part when the winning or level he was "promised" was not there. But hopefully, at the end of the day, he learned commitment along with how to field a stop at 2nd. We live in an instantaneous world and patience is no longer a virtue. Work world, school world, tiddlywinks world and baseball world - commitments are commitments, promises are promises and responsibility is responsibility no matter how you slice it. We can preach all we want, but there will always be those that don't care and don't remember the golden rule... |
| throwitaround |
Posted - 08/24/2012 : 11:55:51
Welcome to the new society I like to call the "me" society. It is no longer about team when it comes to sports. The focus is on getting our kids ready to take on the world as an individual and to work in silos to solve problems. Can't blame them when the examples they are surrounded by foster the illusion that the grass is going to always be greener. A society has been built where comittment is the least of importance (high divorce rate, changing schools to be on a better team, etc.). Sports are not immune to this. I would like to think there is still a core of people in the baseball community who believe when they say yes they mean yes. I certainly believe that once you tell a coach you are with him then you stay with him and do all you can to work through issues. After we comitted, we continued to get offers but never waivered or even thought about changing our mind (and they were some very good offers). I hope that by doing so, I have passed along a valuable lesson to my kids that is quickly going extinct in all areas of society. Now, if the coach is a bum and has taught your 12 year old how to chew tobacco or smoke then yes, you uncommit. But NEVER uncommit just because the name on the shirt says Astros, Yankees, Cougars, Titans, etc (just team names with no exact example in mind). Good luck to those parents who play this game every year. I hope it works out and you are able to achieve that baseball utopia you are looking for. |
| Bigwhitevan |
Posted - 08/23/2012 : 19:26:16
This is the earliest I have seen the "push" to lock up rosters for next spring. Maybe this is as it should be for kids getting older. Mostly I think it is because more and more coaches want kids that they can count on. More teams are fielding full rosters and playing fall tournaments this year already. Look at the U Trip site and 20 teams are in a fall 12u tourney. Maybe the second one offered. Coaches are not sleazy to want a good roster and tell you he is getting so and so. Just trying to lock you down so he can name drop your kid next. And it is certainly within the rights of parents to play the system to their advantage. Nothing should be taken as dishonest about it to me. The plain fact is their is not just one team everybody wants to play for. Many good teams and coaches out there that parents hear about. So a clear cut top pick is very hard. Some parents just don't know or have the time to go see all these teams in action. Going to a practice is great if your not on a team, but mostly if your looking you are on one and attending another's practice is a great way to piss off a coach. Tryouts for some is a measuring stick, especially to kids below major. Some parents don't know how good their kid is, so an offer from unexpected team is hard to take. Then the truth is just because it all looks good, doesn't mean half way through it all falls apart. As a parents all you can do is try and find a balance fit and hope it shakes out. As a coach you just have to offer kids what you got and see if the hook sets. Most parents are always looking out for their kid first. Does this cause trouble?? Yes but it IS their kid!! You should expect it. I know I do!!! |
| BaseballIsMyLife |
Posted - 08/23/2012 : 16:02:32
By the way, this is a good discussion. And I do agree that once a commitment is made, a deal is done. My complaint is that there are too many pressure tactics going on way too early in the summer. |
| BaseballIsMyLife |
Posted - 08/23/2012 : 15:53:19
quote:
Originally posted by in_the_know
quote:
Originally posted by BaseballIsMyLife
As a parent, so many coaches put the huge pressure sale on the kids. EVERYONE knows that EVERYONE is looking around and the end of the season has now become the start of the next recruiting season even before final games are played. When teams have early tryouts and you are truly interested but other tryouts are not complete you are in a real pickle. So many (so so many) coaches will just say, "if he takes the slot now, great, he is in, but if not, it is open" without giving the boy a real chance to have time to evaluate his options. Total BS. It is the coaches who are not being honest and who are pressuring kids so doggone early to make a decision.
Why is that BS?
Look at it from the coach/team's perspective.
I have a roster to fill. I want to put together a team with the best athletes I can assemble by position so that I can field a competitive and similarly talented team (meaning the talent spread from the best to the weakest player across my team isn't too significant).
Part of the appeal of my team is that I can share who's committed so that families can determine if they want to join the team. Questions such as depth by position (if my kid's a catcher and I have 4 solid catchers already, he may not be interested, etc.). Overall talent, etc.
My goal is to assemble this and have commitments. These commitments aren't to only me as a coach, but to all the other families and players.
If I make an offer, I'm not inclined to want to wait a week for an answer. If the player isn't willing to accept the offer and commit, I'm going to move on to my next best option. If I wait a week or so for candidate 1, and candidate 1 eventually declines, I may have very well lost candidates 2, 3 & 4 to other teams while I waited around.
I don't believe for a moment that seeking a quick commitment is BS for these reasons. If my team is the 2nd option to a particular player and he wants to wait and see if he gets an offer from his number 1 option, then that family needs to choose whether to roll the dice or not that he won't miss out if option 1 falls through. If there's an offer on the table, I don't see any reason at all why there can't be an expiration of that offer.
The onus is on the family to evaluate their options up front and be prepared for the possibilities. You know which teams you're interested in. You know when the tryouts are. You should be prepared with what you'll do if the order doesn't align perfectly to fit your needs.
I respect that position, but don't agree that what you suggest is how it works in reality for the VAST majority of teams - good, mediocre and bad. My son has played on very strong teams over the years and is currently on a "top" team. I have been in this travel baseball game for a long time as a parent. I have nothing but respect for the coaches who invest THEIR time in MY kid. Truly, I think it is just great. On the flip side, the "end" of the season is now early-July and the pressure mounts way too quickly for the kids to make a good decision, particularly as they advance in age and with better teams. There is this "race to the bottom" with everyone trying to get out earlier and earlier and then immediately lock down players. My son often gets extended time periods to accept an offer, but the pressure to make an immediate (as in, on the spot) commitment is fierce. Since you are a coach, you just don't feel it. I don't know if your son is on your team or if you even have a son who plays baseball, but, trust me, you wouldn't like the pressure tactics that are used on many kids. From my side, this just leads to second thoughts and misperceptions on both sides. Frankly, very few coaches share much of their rosters or "committed" players early on since they are also playing the field. At many of the best teams, this is an epidemic. It is pretty sleazy and it is very widespread. I don't expect everything to align perfectly with my schedule, but I think the coaches on this thread are missing the point and the reality of what happens out there. |
| Canton Chargers |
Posted - 08/23/2012 : 14:22:07
I coach my rising 12U team and let my 14U son find his own way with a team. I get it all from all angles. As a coach, if a kid shows up for tryouts and he is what I am looking for, I offer him a spot on the spot! Parents will say yay or nay or I'll get back to you for this or that. At the end of the day, I saw their son for 2 hours, they saw me and my current team for 2 hours. They may have come to check me out and try to digest if they can handle my practice/ tourney schedule or if the drive is worth driving verses team X right down the road from them. We are in the age of free agency with these kids and coaches and parents alike, want their kids to win and progress.
When I bring my 14U son to a workout or tryout, I look at the coach, the kids currently on team (if the coach let's them hang), etc... Unless the coach tells the parents at beginning of tryout that his current 7 players are this kid and that, I have no clue of the makeup of how the team will look, so do I just roll the dice or do I start asking questions? I ask a ton of questions (probably taken as me being one of "those type" parents and hear the coach out). I know a ton of kids, so if he says names I know to be kids I want my kid around both talent and attitude wise, we committ. If he names kids I don't want my kid around, I say no thank you and wish him and his program the best.
As a coach, I've been milked many of times on players and have felt abused a lot from parents, but when it is all said and done, I love coaching and there is always a price to pay for doing things you love in life. We always fill our roster one way or another. We drive on and compete from all the time we put into reps, reps, reps.
To answer the original question of this post, "A player commits when he shows up at all your practices and games". I could go with "ITK's" answer in a perfect world, but not these days. I may have my opinion and you all will have yours, but having coached as long as I have, I know that a lot of parents out there think there kid is the next Chipper Jones and they will do anything or blame anyone when things go down hill, thus the team jumping, non committal attitudes, etc.... Winning a lot of games always keeps the boys interested and most of the parents happy. Losing a lot of games most always creates chaos and a lot of stress from the parents to the coaches. It's never the players, it's always the coaches fault. Look at my beloved RedSox and listen to who the goat is. Bobby Valentine has to go!!!! LOL
It's all good in my opinion... When I lose a player because parents thought program X may be better, my team gets up even more when we play the team the kids parents decided to go to instead of ours. I always remind them of that as well:) Same goes for a kid acquired by my team we got from a team that passed on him. I always remind the kid that we are playing the team that passed on him. Now go out there and show them "Who's house this is"!!! LMAO. Competition is great and is what makes sports soooo fun. All the BS with parents and coaches give us all something to talk about on these websites, but it's still all competition to me and my boys and "WE HATE TO LOSE"!!!
Good luck to all of you and see ya on the field....
Bring it!!!
Chargers!!! |
| peashooter |
Posted - 08/22/2012 : 16:20:34
Bulldog: of course you have to like the coach and the way workouts are done. My point was parents string along coaches. If you get to a tryout and the coach sucks and you get an offer, of course you don't accept it. I thought that was obvious....my bad. |
| bballman |
Posted - 08/22/2012 : 16:13:11
Not really related, but, except for the 2 years with the above team, there has always been a "flow" so to speak with my son. His first four years in travel ball, he played for the Roswell Knights. Then went to HS and played for the Centennial Knights. Played 2 years for the Georgia Hurricanes (above), then went to the 643 Cougars. This year, he just started playing college ball for the Columbus State University COUGARS. How about that??? Pretty weird.
Another "fate" thing happened to him also this year. His favorite number has always been 25. Had it for 11-14 travel and freshman year of HS. Sophmore thru Senior year, the bigger the number, the bigger the jersey, so he wore 5. For the Hurricanes, 25 was taken by an existing player, so he wore 10. 643, he wore 25 again. I asked him if he would ask for 25 in college and he said "no, I'll take what they give me". He called me the other day to tell me he got #25. Didn't ask, just showed up in the clubhouse and saw his name and number on his locker. I told him it was fate that he wound up there and got his favorite number. Got goosebumps when he told me. |
| gasbag |
Posted - 08/22/2012 : 16:11:56
Just some random thoughts.....
1 - Why not utilize the fall season to see if you like a team/coach (and vice versa) and want to commit to playing the summer ? Split it up into two separate seasons. Try each other on for size and date before you make that big commitment.
2 - Sounds to me in every case, that we are not allowing our boys to make the decision but parents are making it for them. If this is the case, how much fun is that going to be ?
3 - My experience is that good teams and coaches will continue from year to year. These teams aren't looking to fill an entire roster but maybe just a few positions. They have an idea of what and whom they want and usually hold private workouts vs. these open workouts / fund raisers.
4 - I don't understand these open tryout / fund raisers...didn't we all do that in parks and rec ? Then it was used to spread the talent out and even the leagues up. I never paid a $100 fee at my local park ! Went to try out and entered into a draft based on how the kids were graded out. What's wrong with this picture ? Seems to me high level travel ball has gotten a little greedy and appears to be trending towards moneyball vs baseball.
5 - Look to join a team that you think you can be on for multiple years, and not just a short term, 1 year gig. To do that takes lots of time, a few toe stubs but when you get it right, it's worth it !
6- If your playing travel ball and going to an open tryout and you haven't any idea of which team or have not spoken to any coach es prior to the event, you as a parent have dropped the ball for your "Johnny". It's up to you to do the leg work, coordination, contacts, dialogues etc etc etc prior to any open workout.
OK so there's a few observations and comments based on may years of toe stubbing before finally getting things right ! Hope it helps someone !!! |
| bballman |
Posted - 08/22/2012 : 16:05:18
Haha Allstar. No, he had been a non-dad coach for MANY, MANY years. Was with ECB when they started and actually coached the 1st Astros teams to their World Championships. Left ECB and had his own team for many more years. Then he had kids and his son got playing baseball. Tried to do both for a year, but between the demands of coaching two teams and pressure from his wife to "spend more time with your own son's team", he decided to give up the older team.
Now he can sit back and enjoy the "my son's not playing because the coach's son is there" drama. Should be fun. :)
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| AllStar |
Posted - 08/22/2012 : 15:43:26
quote:
Originally posted by bballman
Good job kidsgame. I wish more families would pick a team and stick with it. My son played for the same team from 11 to 14, when the team disbanded for HS. He then played 2 years on his next team, until they disbanded because the non-dad coach had a younger son he wanted to coach. He then played his last 2 seasons for the same team. There is something to be said to picking the right team and sticking with them.
I know there are some circumstances beyond your control that it would be best to leave a team. But, if you do your homework and quit thinking that the grass is always greener, it is possible to be a pretty stable player and family.
Great post.
So your non-dad coach became a dad coach? Did he get dumber between seasons?  |
| bballman |
Posted - 08/22/2012 : 15:29:20
Good job kidsgame. I wish more families would pick a team and stick with it. My son played for the same team from 11 to 14, when the team disbanded for HS. He then played 2 years on his next team, until they disbanded because the non-dad coach had a younger son he wanted to coach. He then played his last 2 seasons for the same team. There is something to be said to picking the right team and sticking with them.
I know there are some circumstances beyond your control that it would be best to leave a team. But, if you do your homework and quit thinking that the grass is always greener, it is possible to be a pretty stable player and family. |
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