| T O P I C R E V I E W |
| TripleCrownAdministrator |
Posted - 09/01/2011 : 15:38:54
COACHES, PARENTS, AND PLAYERS:
TRIPLE CROWN HAS MADE THE FINAL DECISION ON THEIR BATS FOR THE 2012 SPRING BASEBALL SEASON AND MOVING FORWARD.
AGE GROUPS OF 13U AND BELOW WILL BE REQUIRED TO USE BATS THAT ARE CERTIFIED WITH THE LABEL "BPF 1.15". ALL OF THE BATS WITHOUT THIS LABEL WILL NOT BE ALLOWED. THERE WILL BE NO REGULATION ON THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN WEIGHT AND LENGTH.
14U AGE GROUP WILL BE ALLOWED TO SWING A DROP 5 CERTIFIED LABEL "BPF 1.15" OR A DROP 3 BBCOR BAT. ALL OF THE BATS THAT DO NOT HAVE EITHER LABEL WILL NOT BE ALLOWED.
AGE GROUPS OF 15U AND ABOVE WILL ONLY BE ALLOWED TO SWING A DROP 3 WITH THE CERTIFIED "BBCOR" LABEL. ALL BATS THAT DO NOT HAVE THE BBCOR LABEL WILL NOT BE ALLOWED.
ANY BATS WITH THE USSSA STICKER AND MEET THE SPECIFICATIONS AS DESCRIBED ABOVE WILL BE ALLOWED AT ALL OF OUR EVENTS. THESE BAT SPECIFICATIONS WILL BE IN FULL EFFECT FOR THE SPRING 2012 BASEBALL SEASONS.
WE APPRECIATE YOUR PATIENCE IN RESPONSE TO THE BAT ISSUE. IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FROM THIS POINT FORWARD, PLEASE DO NOT HESITATE TO CALL OUR OFFICE AT 904-230-3993 OR E-MAIL ME AT TRIPLECROWNSPORTS@LITESTREAM.NET
THANK YOU.
TONY VONDOLTEREN
GA TRIPLE CROWN BASEBALL |
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| TAZ980002 |
Posted - 04/08/2012 : 22:09:34
Thanks Tony. |
| TripleCrownAdministrator |
Posted - 04/08/2012 : 20:32:20
ALL COACHES, PLAYERS, AND FANS:
We have gone to numerous EASTON BAT DISTRIBUTORS and they have cleared their bats for legal use in our tournaments that have these lasered stamps. The bat that is in question is the EASTON OMEN minus 5 senior league bat. They apparently had made bats prior to the new bat rules that came out, only to have them etch the USSSA BPF 1.15 stamp onto the bat. These bats are found with the serial number. You can check the list of bats from their website below.
The list of bats can be found on their website at:
http://blogs.eastonbaseball.com/batrules/
I had safety concerns with their practices and was told that the bats had met the specifications. I have done everything in my power to ensure the safety of the game. There is no doubt that the Easton Omen is one of the HOTTEST and LOADED bats on the market. I think that this is why they have discontinued making them. I had the discussion with our corporate office and they also would not ban the bat until something out there told them otherwise. I have to follow the guidelines from our corporate office down. I hope that this puts this topic to rest for at least the time being. There is also a black market out there advertising to copy the USSSA BPF 1.15 engraving mark on any old bat!!!! This is making this situation very hard to monitor as a result! I am just hoping that these teams, coaches, and players are putting a lot of kids at risk! We will continue to monitor these bats the very best we can and penalize these individuals accordingly.
Thank you.
Tony VonDolteren
GA Triple Crown Baseball |
| TAZ980002 |
Posted - 04/08/2012 : 13:39:05
quote:
Originally posted by TripleCrownAdministrator
COACHES, PARENTS, AND PLAYERS:
TRIPLE CROWN HAS MADE THE FINAL DECISION ON THEIR BATS FOR THE 2012 SPRING BASEBALL SEASON AND MOVING FORWARD.
AGE GROUPS OF 13U AND BELOW WILL BE REQUIRED TO USE BATS THAT ARE CERTIFIED WITH THE LABEL "BPF 1.15". ALL OF THE BATS WITHOUT THIS LABEL WILL NOT BE ALLOWED. THERE WILL BE NO REGULATION ON THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN WEIGHT AND LENGTH.
14U AGE GROUP WILL BE ALLOWED TO SWING A DROP 5 CERTIFIED LABEL "BPF 1.15" OR A DROP 3 BBCOR BAT. ALL OF THE BATS THAT DO NOT HAVE EITHER LABEL WILL NOT BE ALLOWED.
AGE GROUPS OF 15U AND ABOVE WILL ONLY BE ALLOWED TO SWING A DROP 3 WITH THE CERTIFIED "BBCOR" LABEL. ALL BATS THAT DO NOT HAVE THE BBCOR LABEL WILL NOT BE ALLOWED.
ANY BATS WITH THE USSSA STICKER AND MEET THE SPECIFICATIONS AS DESCRIBED ABOVE WILL BE ALLOWED AT ALL OF OUR EVENTS. THESE BAT SPECIFICATIONS WILL BE IN FULL EFFECT FOR THE SPRING 2012 BASEBALL SEASONS.
WE APPRECIATE YOUR PATIENCE IN RESPONSE TO THE BAT ISSUE. IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FROM THIS POINT FORWARD, PLEASE DO NOT HESITATE TO CALL OUR OFFICE AT 904-230-3993 OR E-MAIL ME AT TRIPLECROWNSPORTS@LITESTREAM.NET
THANK YOU.
TONY VONDOLTEREN
GA TRIPLE CROWN BASEBALL
Tony, are these still the guidelines governing bats for your tournaments this year? I've heard that certain "etched" USSSA bats are not going to be allowed this coming weekend at your tournament. |
| in_the_know |
Posted - 11/21/2011 : 20:54:11
Easton Rival drop 5 (30/25) BG12XL
quote:
Originally posted by HITANDRUN
quote:
Originally posted by in_the_know
I know there are alot of comments about how there is no difference between last year's non-stamped bats and the current stamped bpf 1.15 bats. I'm not finding that to be true. I have two identical Easton bats, one from last season and the other is a new, stamped bpf 1.15. Both are the same length and weight. The pop of the ball off both bats is significantly different. The sound is significantly different. These are not the same bats. The only way a manufacturer is "stamping" a used bat that you already have from last season is that the bat could already meet the bpf 1.15 compliance, or they are doing a warranty replacement for you and will send you a different bat. Send it in for replacement and see if you get the EXACT same bat back with a stamp applied, or if they merely swap it for a different bat. If swapped, I seriously doubt the bat will perform the same as the original. You can tell the difference. These aren't the same bats as some previous comments state.
What type and size bat did you compare? What model?
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| HITANDRUN |
Posted - 11/21/2011 : 17:23:18
quote:
Originally posted by in_the_know
I know there are alot of comments about how there is no difference between last year's non-stamped bats and the current stamped bpf 1.15 bats. I'm not finding that to be true. I have two identical Easton bats, one from last season and the other is a new, stamped bpf 1.15. Both are the same length and weight. The pop of the ball off both bats is significantly different. The sound is significantly different. These are not the same bats. The only way a manufacturer is "stamping" a used bat that you already have from last season is that the bat could already meet the bpf 1.15 compliance, or they are doing a warranty replacement for you and will send you a different bat. Send it in for replacement and see if you get the EXACT same bat back with a stamp applied, or if they merely swap it for a different bat. If swapped, I seriously doubt the bat will perform the same as the original. You can tell the difference. These aren't the same bats as some previous comments state.
What type and size bat did you compare? What model? |
| Spartan4 |
Posted - 09/28/2011 : 09:23:07
quote:
Originally posted by in_the_know
I know there are alot of comments about how there is no difference between last year's non-stamped bats and the current stamped bpf 1.15 bats. I'm not finding that to be true. I have two identical Easton bats, one from last season and the other is a new, stamped bpf 1.15. Both are the same length and weight. The pop of the ball off both bats is significantly different. The sound is significantly different. These are not the same bats. The only way a manufacturer is "stamping" a used bat that you already have from last season is that the bat could already meet the bpf 1.15 compliance, or they are doing a warranty replacement for you and will send you a different bat. Send it in for replacement and see if you get the EXACT same bat back with a stamp applied, or if they merely swap it for a different bat. If swapped, I seriously doubt the bat will perform the same as the original. You can tell the difference. These aren't the same bats as some previous comments state.
There is a major difference in the -3 bats and I believe in the -5 bats, however I spoke with an Easton rep regarding the bat my nephew uses the -9 Rival and was told the bats are EXACTLY the same just a different paint job. He then went on to say that many of the bats are exactly the same and only certain bats were changed. Another reason many feel this is ALL ABOUT MONEY is to my knowledge as well as others I have spoken with is the small barrel bats were not changed and they were the hottest bats in the 10/11/12U age groups last season. It wasn't unusual to see 80lb kids hitting the ball 275ft... The BBCOR bats are tons different but that just isn't the case with many of the bats the younger groups use. |
| HITANDRUN |
Posted - 09/27/2011 : 14:45:19
quote:
Originally posted by dad4kids
I just called too to find out that you're right, unfortunately. They say they have no way of stamping existing bats with BPF 1.10 and can't exchange a used for new.
Wonderful.
Did you say "BPF 1.15" or did you say BPF 1.10? Maybe they misunderstood 1.10. |
| in_the_know |
Posted - 09/27/2011 : 13:03:29
I know there are alot of comments about how there is no difference between last year's non-stamped bats and the current stamped bpf 1.15 bats. I'm not finding that to be true. I have two identical Easton bats, one from last season and the other is a new, stamped bpf 1.15. Both are the same length and weight. The pop of the ball off both bats is significantly different. The sound is significantly different. These are not the same bats. The only way a manufacturer is "stamping" a used bat that you already have from last season is that the bat could already meet the bpf 1.15 compliance, or they are doing a warranty replacement for you and will send you a different bat. Send it in for replacement and see if you get the EXACT same bat back with a stamp applied, or if they merely swap it for a different bat. If swapped, I seriously doubt the bat will perform the same as the original. You can tell the difference. These aren't the same bats as some previous comments state. |
| dad4kids |
Posted - 09/27/2011 : 10:02:43
I just called too to find out that you're right, unfortunately. They say they have no way of stamping existing bats with BPF 1.10 and can't exchange a used for new.
Wonderful. |
| prestont |
Posted - 09/25/2011 : 06:46:04
dad4kids - Easton bat warranty dept told me they would stamp any unused bat in the wrapper. Spoke to them after I saw the post re: Louisville slugger. |
| Spartan4 |
Posted - 09/24/2011 : 14:11:06
This isn't about safety.....this is about money..the bats are EXACTLY the same, it has nothing to do with safety. Last season there was a lot of talk about illegal bats, funny there isn't ONE organization with compression testing equipment but each mom and dad can go buy a new bat for their son?!?! If we are trying to be safe lets invest in equipment to cut down on the cheated up bats that are out there...If that keeps one kid from getting smoked from a batted ball then it would be worth it for Triple Crown and USSSA to pick up one right?? |
| dad4kids |
Posted - 09/24/2011 : 09:12:09
The 2011 Easton Omens -10 have the BBCOR stamp, and Easton will stamp 2011 Omens upon return.
Not sure I believe all this is necessary for safety. If Little League is so concerned about it, why do they have 13 year olds pitching 46' away from home? |
| BatChipper |
Posted - 09/23/2011 : 21:20:44
This bat stuff is out of control. All the organizations should follow high school rules pertaining to the bats. Just use BBCOR and be done with it. |
| Hurricane |
Posted - 09/23/2011 : 16:52:02
quote:
Originally posted by 21BS21
I called Louisville Slugger today to ask about the drop 5 EXO that I had bought my son back in May. I was told that for $25 and the cost of shipping, that they will put the USSSA stamp on the bat. The guy told me that I would pay the $25 1st then send it back like a warranty issue. He said he was pretty sure they would offer this until the end of the year.
Another example of how these bats are no different from last season.
Same metal same weight different paint job. |
| Hurricane |
Posted - 09/23/2011 : 16:49:32
11UFAN
What you don't understand is the new stamp is nothing more than a stamp. The new bats are "NOT" BBCOR bats if they were then I would be happy with the ruling. These are the exact same bats everyone used last season with a stupid stamp on it. BBCOR bats are very similar to wood bats in performance these usssa stamped bats are just as dangerous as last season. This ruling is "not' protecting any kids. I also wish we could all go to wood or even BBCOR bats. This is a giant hoax pretending to protect the kids. |
| 11UFAN |
Posted - 09/23/2011 : 11:12:12
Hurricane,
I don't think its the bat manufacturers changing the rules, its the baseball organizations, although they will make a ton of money with changes like this. The people that run TC down here are good guys and they don't want a kid getting brain damage when some "beast" whose dad wants him to hit 100 HR's drives a ball into the pitchers head. If these new rules prevent even one kid in GA from getting really hurt I for one am more than happy to buy my kid a new bat.
Having said that, I think we should all go to wood bats. That would be the best way to prevent kids form getting hurt and forces kids to learn to hit the "right" way. Watching kids get fooled on a pitch, taking a half swing and the ball flying over the center field wall isn't real baseball. |
| Hurricane |
Posted - 09/22/2011 : 12:22:08
I still feel like the bat makers are doing this to sale more bats trying to make it look like they are using some type of system to protect the kids from balls flying off the bats at enormous rates, which is not the case. If it were there would be "NO" legal composite bats on the market. However, several are starting to pop up. |
| rippit |
Posted - 09/22/2011 : 10:42:50
quote:
Originally posted by coachdan06
Theyll say : 325 ' according to WHO ? 
quote:
Originally posted by rippit
quote:
Originally posted by 21BS21
I called Louisville Slugger today to ask about the drop 5 EXO that I had bought my son back in May. I was told that for $25 and the cost of shipping, that they will put the USSSA stamp on the bat. The guy told me that I would pay the $25 1st then send it back like a warranty issue. He said he was pretty sure they would offer this until the end of the year.
According to the fence the ball went over. I'm guessing the bbcor design takes about 20-25 feet off distance after what we've seen in the last week using different bats while we still can.
And I'd like to call Easton to see if they will put a stamp on the Surge my kid just smacked one 325' with. What do y'all think they'll say??
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| coachdan06 |
Posted - 09/22/2011 : 01:15:14
Theyll say : 325 ' according to WHO ?
quote:
Originally posted by rippit
quote:
Originally posted by 21BS21
I called Louisville Slugger today to ask about the drop 5 EXO that I had bought my son back in May. I was told that for $25 and the cost of shipping, that they will put the USSSA stamp on the bat. The guy told me that I would pay the $25 1st then send it back like a warranty issue. He said he was pretty sure they would offer this until the end of the year.
And I'd like to call Easton to see if they will put a stamp on the Surge my kid just smacked one 325' with. What do y'all think they'll say??
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| rippit |
Posted - 09/21/2011 : 20:53:21
quote:
Originally posted by 21BS21
I called Louisville Slugger today to ask about the drop 5 EXO that I had bought my son back in May. I was told that for $25 and the cost of shipping, that they will put the USSSA stamp on the bat. The guy told me that I would pay the $25 1st then send it back like a warranty issue. He said he was pretty sure they would offer this until the end of the year.
And I'd like to call Easton to see if they will put a stamp on the Surge my kid just smacked one 325' with. What do y'all think they'll say?? |
| jmjnr |
Posted - 09/21/2011 : 12:39:31
I just called Combat to see if they would put the USSSA stamp on a B1 purchased in May 2011. They indicated that they would not stamp any old bats. |
| 21BS21 |
Posted - 09/20/2011 : 22:07:07
I called Louisville Slugger today to ask about the drop 5 EXO that I had bought my son back in May. I was told that for $25 and the cost of shipping, that they will put the USSSA stamp on the bat. The guy told me that I would pay the $25 1st then send it back like a warranty issue. He said he was pretty sure they would offer this until the end of the year. |
| rippit |
Posted - 09/19/2011 : 18:16:06
quote:
Originally posted by Mike Corbin
If it doesn't have that stamp or sticker on it then you will not be able to use it in USSSA or Triple Crown tournaments.
After January apparently with usssa. Couldn't believe the umps didn't enforce even the drop rule at 14u. Kids hitting with -10. Still. Nevermimd the bbcor rule. Jeesh!!!! |
| Mike Corbin |
Posted - 09/19/2011 : 16:26:06
If it doesn't have that stamp or sticker on it then you will not be able to use it in USSSA or Triple Crown tournaments. |
| SSBuckeye |
Posted - 09/19/2011 : 14:06:14
It's good until 12/31/11. Use it for a batting cage bat after that. |
