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TripleCrownAdministrator
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 Posted - 09/01/2011 : 15:38:54
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COACHES, PARENTS, AND PLAYERS:
TRIPLE CROWN HAS MADE THE FINAL DECISION ON THEIR BATS FOR THE 2012 SPRING BASEBALL SEASON AND MOVING FORWARD.
AGE GROUPS OF 13U AND BELOW WILL BE REQUIRED TO USE BATS THAT ARE CERTIFIED WITH THE LABEL "BPF 1.15". ALL OF THE BATS WITHOUT THIS LABEL WILL NOT BE ALLOWED. THERE WILL BE NO REGULATION ON THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN WEIGHT AND LENGTH.
14U AGE GROUP WILL BE ALLOWED TO SWING A DROP 5 CERTIFIED LABEL "BPF 1.15" OR A DROP 3 BBCOR BAT. ALL OF THE BATS THAT DO NOT HAVE EITHER LABEL WILL NOT BE ALLOWED.
AGE GROUPS OF 15U AND ABOVE WILL ONLY BE ALLOWED TO SWING A DROP 3 WITH THE CERTIFIED "BBCOR" LABEL. ALL BATS THAT DO NOT HAVE THE BBCOR LABEL WILL NOT BE ALLOWED.
ANY BATS WITH THE USSSA STICKER AND MEET THE SPECIFICATIONS AS DESCRIBED ABOVE WILL BE ALLOWED AT ALL OF OUR EVENTS. THESE BAT SPECIFICATIONS WILL BE IN FULL EFFECT FOR THE SPRING 2012 BASEBALL SEASONS.
WE APPRECIATE YOUR PATIENCE IN RESPONSE TO THE BAT ISSUE. IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FROM THIS POINT FORWARD, PLEASE DO NOT HESITATE TO CALL OUR OFFICE AT 904-230-3993 OR E-MAIL ME AT TRIPLECROWNSPORTS@LITESTREAM.NET
THANK YOU.
TONY VONDOLTEREN
GA TRIPLE CROWN BASEBALL |
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3sondad
220 Posts |
Posted - 09/01/2011 : 16:16:24
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| For any age group are wood bats allowed. Any special labeling? |
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Cherokeeredstravelball
61 Posts |
Posted - 09/01/2011 : 20:51:31
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| Does that mean that a BBCOR Certified .50 bat is not going to be allowed in the 13u age group? Only the BPF 1.15? |
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TripleCrownAdministrator
240 Posts |
Posted - 09/01/2011 : 22:21:10
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ALL WOOD BATS WILL BE ALLOWED WITH ANY OF OUR TOURNAMENTS IN EVERY AGE GROUP (NO SPECIAL LABELS ON THOSE). WE WILL ALSO ACCEPT THE BBCOR BATS IN THE YOUNGER AGE GROUPS.
THE WHOLE REASONING FOR GOING TO THESE NEW BATS IS TO SLOW DOWN THE EXIT SPEED FOR THESE GAMES. SEEING TOO MANY BALLS WHIZ PAST A KID BEFORE HE CAN EVEN GET HIS GLOVE UP IN TIME. PITCHERS WERE ALSO IN SERIOUS DANGER WITH COMEBACKERS UP THE MIDDLE. SAW A COUPLE OF THOSE KIDS TAKE ONE OFF THE FACE!
THANK YOU AGAIN AND LOOKING FORWARD TO A GREAT 2011 FALL SEASON AND INTO THE 2012 SPRING SEASON.
TONY VONDOLTEREN
GA TRIPLE CROWN BASEBALL
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HITANDRUN
436 Posts |
Posted - 09/02/2011 : 11:46:14
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| Can someone with knowledge explain to us the "BPF 1.15" rating on bats. I know this is not the same thing as the new BBCOR bats. I know "BPF 1.15" was used in little league in 2009 so I have to assume these bats are still very hot and not turned down as much as some of these manufacturers want us to believe? |
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stepoff
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Posted - 09/02/2011 : 13:03:22
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Tony,
How will the qualification process work? Will it be like High School where all the bats are laid out in front of the dugout and the umpire walks by and makes sure they are legal? I will look at the USSSA rule for violation but what will TC's be if caught using an illegal bat? Will it require a protest (and possibly a fee) if the opposing team's coach questions a bat that the umpire did not catch or somehow is "accidentally" used? |
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silvercityjon
56 Posts |
Posted - 09/02/2011 : 13:22:05
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HITANDRUN SEE IF THIS HELPS:
BPF is Bat Performance Factor in relation to a wooden bat.
Listed below are comments from the Little League website
• More than 10 years ago, the major manufacturers of non-wood bats reached an agreement with Little League to limit their bats to a “Bat Performance Factor” (BPF) of 1.15. … The BPF is essentially a measure of a non-wood bat’s performance (how fast the ball exits the bat when hit) in relation to a standard wood bat’s rating of 1.00. A very good wood bat’s BPF is 1.15.
• That means today’s best non-wood bats (usually made of aluminum) used in Little League perform statistically the same, in terms of how fast the ball exits the bat, as the
best wood bats.
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Peanutsr
171 Posts |
Posted - 09/02/2011 : 13:48:11
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This comes from a 2009 article and should clear everything up...........
What is the performance of a baseball bat or softball bat and how is it measured? Bat performance standards are set and regulated by the National Collegiate Athletic Association (NCAA), National Federation of State High School Associations (NFHS), Little League, USSSA, and Amateur Softball Association (ASA) in the United States and many countries around the world. Bat performance measurements for non-wooden bats are used to bring the game back into balance between offense and defense and to maintain the sport's safety due to high batted-ball speed as new metal bat technology evolves. The study of bat performance gets interesting when you realize that their is not a common test or testing methodology between all these organizations, such that batted-ball speed (BBS), bat performance factor (BPF), bat exit speed ratio (BESR), and bat-ball coefficient-of-restitution (BBCOR) are different measurements trying to accomplish the same goal.
NCAA and NFHS Bat Performance Measurements
In 1999, the NCAA developed a bat performance regulation based on the BESR of the reference 34" long wood bat with an assumed pitched ball speed of 70 mph and a bat swing speed of 66 mph. It was quickly realized that BESR, which measures bat-bat collision efficiency, also needed the accompany bat swing speed measurement, called the moment-of-inertia (or MOI), to estimate the ball speed coming off a bat. The targeted maximum batted-ball speed using the reference bat is 97 mph. Please note that this is not the maximum batted-ball speed possible, but a target, since both wood and aluminum bats can produce higher speeds if the pitcher is throwing faster or the swing is faster than the reference measurement. This target is set as a reference point so that wood and aluminum bats will produce the same ball speed under the same conditions within a few mph. A fact that has be validated in several field studies.
In 2000, the NCAA and NFHS decided to establish the maximum collision efficiency (BESR), maximum barrel size, and bat drop[1] (for the same batter, a heavier bat has a slower swing speed) to keep the estimated batted-ball speed of an aluminum bat around the same speed of the reference wood bat. To be NCAA and NFHS certified, the bat must have a BESR of 0.728 or less, maximum barrel diameter of 2 5/8" and cannot have a drop greater than -3.
In the fall of 2008, the NCAA announced that they will change their bat performance measurement to use BBCOR, which is the ratio of bat-ball speed before and after the collision and measures the elasticity of the bat-ball collision. The date for mandatory BBCOR certification for bats is the 2011 season and there will be no grandfather clause for bats certified under BESR. This change will not affect the current testing methodology but will eliminate the small discrepancy between bat lengths and more directly align the measurement of bat performance with the ball's exit speed. In order to achieve certification, the BBCOR will need to be 0.50 or less with a maximum length-to-weight difference (drop) of -3 and a bat diameter less than 2 5/8 inches.
Note: I have not seen it yet, but I would expect the NFHS to follow this mandate for high school baseball.
ASA Bat Performance Measurements
Also in 2000, the ASA established a bat performance regulation by directly measuring the batted-ball speed (BBS) of a slow pitch metal bat called the "ball-in, ball-out" measurement. The ASA reference measurement is based on a ball being pitched at 10 mph and a bat swing speed of 60 mph hitting the bat at the maximum batted-ball speed performance point, called center-of-percussion (COP). From this, the ASA determined that the maximum ball speed of a hit ball should be 85 mph or lower for the bat to become certified.
In 2004, after a field study conducted at the National Tournament in Montgomery, AL, the ASA adjusted their reference metric to more closely resemble the pitched ball and bat swinging speed of the game. While maintaining their current measurement method, the ball pitched speed was increased to 25 mph and the bat swinging speed was increased to 85 mph. Additionally, the field study showed that the maximum batted-ball speed performance point (formerly labeled COP) actually varied from bat model to bat model and bat maker to bat maker. This required that the bat being certified initially undergo testing to determine the maximum performance location first and then the pitched ball is to be targeted at that location. Based on these updated assumptions, the ASA determine that for a bat to be certified the maximum batted-ball speed should be 98 mph or less. Even though the numerical value of BBS with the 2004 standard is higher than the 2000 standard, it is actually a much stricter standard.
In 2008, the ASA updated their testing procedure to account for the fact that composite bats reach their peak performance after they are broken in by hundreds of bat-ball collisions and the composite fibers and resins loosen up to provide a larger trampoline effect. Starting with the 2009 composite bat models, the ASA will simulate up to 1000 swings before a composite bat will be tested against the ASA 2004 certification tests. Composite bat models certified under the old testing procedure will be grandfathered and can be used until they are no longer safe for use. This testing procedure change will not affect 2009 metal bats since their performance decreases with use.
USSSA and Little League Bat Performance Measurements
During the early 1990s, Little League reached an agreement with bat manufactures to limit the performance on non-wood bats to the expected performance level of the best wood bats at that time. They created a metric called the bat performance factor (BPF) which must be less than 1.15 in order for a bat to be certified for Little League play. The BPF metric is equal to the ratio of the "bounciness" of a baseball off a bat (called bat-ball coefficient of restitution or BBCOR) to a baseball off a hard wall (called bat-wall coefficient of restitution or BWCOR). The BPF metric does not include any assumptions pertaining to bat speed so it is more effective at testing shorter youth bats since the effective bat speed can vary by bat length and the location of the bats center of mass (ie., end loaded or handle loaded). The USSSA uses the same bat performance metric but allows for a slightly higher BPF = 1.20 or less.
For the 2009 season, Little League has made two changes: 1) all bat must have a BPF label printed on them, and 2) all "big barrel" used in junior league (age 13 years and older) can have a maximum barrel diameter of 2 3/4". Most bat manufactures have been complying with these rules for years so little change is expected.
Summary
Over the past 10 years, the governing bodies of baseball and softball have been regulating the performance of non-wood bats (usually made of aluminum) to perform statistically the same, in terms of how fast the ball exits the bat, as the best wood bats. The organizations have chosen the best wood bats to encourage and allow the use of wood bats within their organization's teams. Although their testing methodology and batted-ball performance metric may differ, they all include some type of measurement of how "springy" a bat-ball collision is based on a preset bat-ball speed collision. Their two-fold object is to maintain the defense and offense balance and the safety of the game players.
Here is a recap of the current testing methodology.
Regulate Batted-Ball Speed Directly: ASA is based on slow-pitch reference point of a pitch traveling at 25 mph and the bat swing speed of 85 mph after determining the maximum performance location on the bat barrel. For a ball to be certified, the BBS must be 98 mph or less. Due to the testing methodology of measuring the "ball-in, ball-out" speed with a stationary bat, the "whip action" from the flexible bat handle bats, the testing of shorter youth style bats, and the higher pitching velocity normal in the fastpitch variant of softball can produce results that are either higher or lower by a few mph.
Regulate Batted-Ball Speed Indirectly: NCAA and NFHS BESR, maximum barrel size of 2 5/8" and drop standard of minus 3 limit the collision efficiency and bat swing speed. They will certify a -3 bat that has a BESR equal to or less than 0.728. For the 2011 season, the BESR certification will no longer be allowed and the new BBCOR certification will be required.
Regulate the Collision Efficiency Indirectly: USSSA softball and Little League regulate the BPF, which is a metric of the efficiency that a bat can make the ball bounce versus a ball bouncing off a wall. Due to the testing methodology of "ball-in, bat-out" with a stationary bat used by Little League, the measured results have greater variability than the "ball-in, ball-out" testing methodology used by ASA. This is due to the low bat elasticity and the ball-bat collision producing up and down vibrations that dissipate energy.
Over the past ten years, organizations have changed their bat performance metric and assumed bat-ball collision speeds to more realistically represent game situations. It can be anticipated that during the next ten years more changes will occur as organization continue to work to maintain the offense-defense balance and the safety of the game.
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HITANDRUN
436 Posts |
Posted - 09/02/2011 : 17:18:11
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Originally posted by silvercityjon
HITANDRUN SEE IF THIS HELPS:
BPF is Bat Performance Factor in relation to a wooden bat.
Listed below are comments from the Little League website
• More than 10 years ago, the major manufacturers of non-wood bats reached an agreement with Little League to limit their bats to a “Bat Performance Factor” (BPF) of 1.15. … The BPF is essentially a measure of a non-wood bat’s performance (how fast the ball exits the bat when hit) in relation to a standard wood bat’s rating of 1.00. A very good wood bat’s BPF is 1.15.
• That means today’s best non-wood bats (usually made of aluminum) used in Little League perform statistically the same, in terms of how fast the ball exits the bat, as the
best wood bats.
So you are saying the bats little league has been using should give the same results as a very good wood bat? I can't believe that. I have seen kids who can't hit a baseball 225 feet with a wood bat hit them 300 with small barrel little league approved bats.
I believe the BBCOR bats are very close to wood but not the BPF 1.15 bats. Why doesn't usssa and the other organizations just go to a BBCOR bat? |
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Gamer64
17 Posts |
Posted - 09/03/2011 : 12:02:04
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Tony,
I just inspected my son's 2010 Demarini Voodoo -9 bat and it did not have a BFP 1.15 label. So it appears that everybody will have to go out an purchase new bats with this lable or the USSSA label. Is that correct???? |
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oldschooldad
203 Posts |
Posted - 09/03/2011 : 12:21:19
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Originally posted by HITANDRUN
Can someone with knowledge explain to us the "BPF 1.15" rating on bats. I know this is not the same thing as the new BBCOR bats. I know "BPF 1.15" was used in little league in 2009 so I have to assume these bats are still very hot and not turned down as much as some of these manufacturers want us to believe?
from Physics and Acoustics of Baseball & Softball Bats
Daniel A. Russell, Ph.D.
Applied Physics, Kettering University
The ratio of ball speeds after and before colliding with the bat is called the is combined with the kinematic properties of the bat (determined from the moment-of-inertia of the bat and the impact location) to obtain the Bat-Ball Coefficient-of-Restitution, or BBCOR for the collosion. The ratio of the BBCOR to the ratio of ball speeds resulting from the ball being fired at a rigid wall (ie, the ball-wall coefficient-of-restitution) is called the Bat Performance Factor, or BPF. This test is sometimes referred to as the "Brandt Test" after Richard Brandt, the NYU physicist who invented it. Firing the ball at a rigid wall results in a BPF of 1.00. Firing a ball at a wood bat results in a BPF of only slightly more than 1.00, while most aluminum bats have BPF values near 1.20 and some super high performing bats have BPF values around 1.30 or higher. The legal limit set by USSSA, ISF and NSF is BPF 1.20. Prior to 2004, the Amateur Softball Association (ASA) used the same ASTM standard, but used a formula to combine the BBCOR with a prediction of bat swing speed to obtain a predicted Batted-Ball Speed (BBS). Bats which produced a BBS of 85mph or less were considered legal bats. Little League youth bats are tested with the same apparatus, only using baseballs, and must pass with a BPF rating of 1.15 or lower.
So, I read this to say the new BFP 1.15 bats are still hotter than any wooden bat but maybe less hot than older non- BFP bats. Up to .15 times more rebound or trampolining.
But bats are still tested pre-break in. Composites and other materials may still get hotter as they as used and are broken -in.
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jongamefan
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Posted - 09/13/2011 : 12:22:24
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Originally posted by oldschooldad
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Originally posted by HITANDRUN
Can someone with knowledge explain to us the "BPF 1.15" rating on bats. I know this is not the same thing as the new BBCOR bats. I know "BPF 1.15" was used in little league in 2009 so I have to assume these bats are still very hot and not turned down as much as some of these manufacturers want us to believe?
from Physics and Acoustics of Baseball & Softball Bats
Daniel A. Russell, Ph.D.
Applied Physics, Kettering University
The ratio of ball speeds after and before colliding with the bat is called the is combined with the kinematic properties of the bat (determined from the moment-of-inertia of the bat and the impact location) to obtain the Bat-Ball Coefficient-of-Restitution, or BBCOR for the collosion. The ratio of the BBCOR to the ratio of ball speeds resulting from the ball being fired at a rigid wall (ie, the ball-wall coefficient-of-restitution) is called the Bat Performance Factor, or BPF. This test is sometimes referred to as the "Brandt Test" after Richard Brandt, the NYU physicist who invented it. Firing the ball at a rigid wall results in a BPF of 1.00. Firing a ball at a wood bat results in a BPF of only slightly more than 1.00, while most aluminum bats have BPF values near 1.20 and some super high performing bats have BPF values around 1.30 or higher. The legal limit set by USSSA, ISF and NSF is BPF 1.20. Prior to 2004, the Amateur Softball Association (ASA) used the same ASTM standard, but used a formula to combine the BBCOR with a prediction of bat swing speed to obtain a predicted Batted-Ball Speed (BBS). Bats which produced a BBS of 85mph or less were considered legal bats. Little League youth bats are tested with the same apparatus, only using baseballs, and must pass with a BPF rating of 1.15 or lower.
So, I read this to say the new BFP 1.15 bats are still hotter than any wooden bat but maybe less hot than older non- BFP bats. Up to .15 times more rebound or trampolining.
But bats are still tested pre-break in. Composites and other materials may still get hotter as they as used and are broken -in.
SCHOOL: surely ive got this wrong but : if the BPF is 1.15 suggesting a 15% higher rebound from the bat when compared to a simliar throw off a concrete wall , then doesnt the ".50" rating on a BBCOR suggest a 50% LESS rebound when compared to the throw off a concrete wall?
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oldschooldad
203 Posts |
Posted - 09/13/2011 : 13:40:42
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Originally posted by jongamefan
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Originally posted by oldschooldad
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Originally posted by HITANDRUN
Can someone with knowledge explain to us the "BPF 1.15" rating on bats. I know this is not the same thing as the new BBCOR bats. I know "BPF 1.15" was used in little league in 2009 so I have to assume these bats are still very hot and not turned down as much as some of these manufacturers want us to believe?
from Physics and Acoustics of Baseball & Softball Bats
Daniel A. Russell, Ph.D.
Applied Physics, Kettering University
The ratio of ball speeds after and before colliding with the bat is called the is combined with the kinematic properties of the bat (determined from the moment-of-inertia of the bat and the impact location) to obtain the Bat-Ball Coefficient-of-Restitution, or BBCOR for the collosion. The ratio of the BBCOR to the ratio of ball speeds resulting from the ball being fired at a rigid wall (ie, the ball-wall coefficient-of-restitution) is called the Bat Performance Factor, or BPF. This test is sometimes referred to as the "Brandt Test" after Richard Brandt, the NYU physicist who invented it. Firing the ball at a rigid wall results in a BPF of 1.00. Firing a ball at a wood bat results in a BPF of only slightly more than 1.00, while most aluminum bats have BPF values near 1.20 and some super high performing bats have BPF values around 1.30 or higher. The legal limit set by USSSA, ISF and NSF is BPF 1.20. Prior to 2004, the Amateur Softball Association (ASA) used the same ASTM standard, but used a formula to combine the BBCOR with a prediction of bat swing speed to obtain a predicted Batted-Ball Speed (BBS). Bats which produced a BBS of 85mph or less were considered legal bats. Little League youth bats are tested with the same apparatus, only using baseballs, and must pass with a BPF rating of 1.15 or lower.
So, I read this to say the new BFP 1.15 bats are still hotter than any wooden bat but maybe less hot than older non- BFP bats. Up to .15 times more rebound or trampolining.
But bats are still tested pre-break in. Composites and other materials may still get hotter as they as used and are broken -in.
SCHOOL: surely ive got this wrong but : if the BPF is 1.15 suggesting a 15% higher rebound from the bat when compared to a simliar throw off a concrete wall , then doesnt the ".50" rating on a BBCOR suggest a 50% LESS rebound when compared to the throw off a concrete wall?
Boy am I confused
I'm just a simple man with a simple understanding of things. As I read the report, a BBCOR rated bat is designed to be very similar in preformance to a wooden bat. So a wooden bat and a BBCOR bat have a BPF slightly higher than 1.00 but less than 1.15. |
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itsaboutbb
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Posted - 09/13/2011 : 15:48:01
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Originally posted by oldschooldad
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Originally posted by jongamefan
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Originally posted by oldschooldad
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Originally posted by HITANDRUN
Can someone with knowledge explain to us the "BPF 1.15" rating on bats. I know this is not the same thing as the new BBCOR bats. I know "BPF 1.15" was used in little league in 2009 so I have to assume these bats are still very hot and not turned down as much as some of these manufacturers want us to believe?
from Physics and Acoustics of Baseball & Softball Bats
Daniel A. Russell, Ph.D.
Applied Physics, Kettering University
The ratio of ball speeds after and before colliding with the bat is called the is combined with the kinematic properties of the bat (determined from the moment-of-inertia of the bat and the impact location) to obtain the Bat-Ball Coefficient-of-Restitution, or BBCOR for the collosion. The ratio of the BBCOR to the ratio of ball speeds resulting from the ball being fired at a rigid wall (ie, the ball-wall coefficient-of-restitution) is called the Bat Performance Factor, or BPF. This test is sometimes referred to as the "Brandt Test" after Richard Brandt, the NYU physicist who invented it. Firing the ball at a rigid wall results in a BPF of 1.00. Firing a ball at a wood bat results in a BPF of only slightly more than 1.00, while most aluminum bats have BPF values near 1.20 and some super high performing bats have BPF values around 1.30 or higher. The legal limit set by USSSA, ISF and NSF is BPF 1.20. Prior to 2004, the Amateur Softball Association (ASA) used the same ASTM standard, but used a formula to combine the BBCOR with a prediction of bat swing speed to obtain a predicted Batted-Ball Speed (BBS). Bats which produced a BBS of 85mph or less were considered legal bats. Little League youth bats are tested with the same apparatus, only using baseballs, and must pass with a BPF rating of 1.15 or lower.
So, I read this to say the new BFP 1.15 bats are still hotter than any wooden bat but maybe less hot than older non- BFP bats. Up to .15 times more rebound or trampolining.
But bats are still tested pre-break in. Composites and other materials may still get hotter as they as used and are broken -in.
SCHOOL: surely ive got this wrong but : if the BPF is 1.15 suggesting a 15% higher rebound from the bat when compared to a simliar throw off a concrete wall , then doesnt the ".50" rating on a BBCOR suggest a 50% LESS rebound when compared to the throw off a concrete wall?
Boy am I confused
I'm just a simple man with a simple understanding of things. As I read the report, a BBCOR rated bat is designed to be very similar in preformance to a wooden bat. So a wooden bat and a BBCOR bat have a BPF slightly higher than 1.00 but less than 1.15.
Yea and a wood bat has to have the USSSA stamp on it to right? |
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3sondad
220 Posts |
Posted - 09/13/2011 : 22:18:35
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About TIme ...
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Yea and a wood bat has to have the USSSA stamp on it to right?
Read the fourth post in this thread from Tony of Triple Crown. "NO SPECIAL LABELING REQUIRED FOR WOOD BATS." |
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DecaturDad
619 Posts |
Posted - 09/14/2011 : 09:28:17
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Tony,
In the original post, you state:
AGE GROUPS OF 13U AND BELOW WILL BE REQUIRED TO USE BATS THAT ARE CERTIFIED WITH THE LABEL "BPF 1.15". ALL OF THE BATS WITHOUT THIS LABEL WILL NOT BE ALLOWED. THERE WILL BE NO REGULATION ON THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN WEIGHT AND LENGTH.
Could someone 13U or below use a drop 3 BBCOR bat if they want?
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TripleCrownAdministrator
240 Posts |
Posted - 09/14/2011 : 11:04:52
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| Yes. All kids that are 13u and below have their choice of whether they want to use the BPF 1.15 or the drop 3 BBCOR. At 14U they also have their choice of the drop 5 BPF 1.15 or the drop 3 BBCOR |
Edited by - TripleCrownAdministrator on 09/14/2011 11:41:45 |
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CaCO3Girl
1989 Posts |
Posted - 09/19/2011 : 14:00:43
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How can we tell, as the normal mom's and dad's, IF our kids baseball bat is okay under the new system? I find it hard to believe that all bats are now trash if they weren't stamped with this BPF 1.15.
For example, I have a 2010 Worth Lithium Prodigy 28 in, 18 oz, the white and black kind, for my 9 year old....is THAT bat trash now? |
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SSBuckeye
575 Posts |
Posted - 09/19/2011 : 14:06:14
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| It's good until 12/31/11. Use it for a batting cage bat after that. |
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Mike Corbin
523 Posts |
Posted - 09/19/2011 : 16:26:06
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| If it doesn't have that stamp or sticker on it then you will not be able to use it in USSSA or Triple Crown tournaments. |
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rippit
667 Posts |
Posted - 09/19/2011 : 18:16:06
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Originally posted by Mike Corbin
If it doesn't have that stamp or sticker on it then you will not be able to use it in USSSA or Triple Crown tournaments.
After January apparently with usssa. Couldn't believe the umps didn't enforce even the drop rule at 14u. Kids hitting with -10. Still. Nevermimd the bbcor rule. Jeesh!!!! |
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21BS21
28 Posts |
Posted - 09/20/2011 : 22:07:07
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| I called Louisville Slugger today to ask about the drop 5 EXO that I had bought my son back in May. I was told that for $25 and the cost of shipping, that they will put the USSSA stamp on the bat. The guy told me that I would pay the $25 1st then send it back like a warranty issue. He said he was pretty sure they would offer this until the end of the year. |
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jmjnr
13 Posts |
Posted - 09/21/2011 : 12:39:31
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| I just called Combat to see if they would put the USSSA stamp on a B1 purchased in May 2011. They indicated that they would not stamp any old bats. |
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rippit
667 Posts |
Posted - 09/21/2011 : 20:53:21
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Originally posted by 21BS21
I called Louisville Slugger today to ask about the drop 5 EXO that I had bought my son back in May. I was told that for $25 and the cost of shipping, that they will put the USSSA stamp on the bat. The guy told me that I would pay the $25 1st then send it back like a warranty issue. He said he was pretty sure they would offer this until the end of the year.
And I'd like to call Easton to see if they will put a stamp on the Surge my kid just smacked one 325' with. What do y'all think they'll say?? |
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coachdan06
433 Posts |
Posted - 09/22/2011 : 01:15:14
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Theyll say : 325 ' according to WHO ? 
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Originally posted by rippit
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Originally posted by 21BS21
I called Louisville Slugger today to ask about the drop 5 EXO that I had bought my son back in May. I was told that for $25 and the cost of shipping, that they will put the USSSA stamp on the bat. The guy told me that I would pay the $25 1st then send it back like a warranty issue. He said he was pretty sure they would offer this until the end of the year.
And I'd like to call Easton to see if they will put a stamp on the Surge my kid just smacked one 325' with. What do y'all think they'll say??
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rippit
667 Posts |
Posted - 09/22/2011 : 10:42:50
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Originally posted by coachdan06
Theyll say : 325 ' according to WHO ?
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Originally posted by rippit
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Originally posted by 21BS21
I called Louisville Slugger today to ask about the drop 5 EXO that I had bought my son back in May. I was told that for $25 and the cost of shipping, that they will put the USSSA stamp on the bat. The guy told me that I would pay the $25 1st then send it back like a warranty issue. He said he was pretty sure they would offer this until the end of the year.
According to the fence the ball went over. I'm guessing the bbcor design takes about 20-25 feet off distance after what we've seen in the last week using different bats while we still can.
And I'd like to call Easton to see if they will put a stamp on the Surge my kid just smacked one 325' with. What do y'all think they'll say??
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TRIPLE CROWN BAT REGULATIONS FOR 2012
