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Originally posted by NF1974

CaCO3girl,

Let me ask you a hypothetical. I think that your son is a current sophomore. If you had a reasonable belief that your son was not going to make the Varsity team because of any # of reasons, and there was an equally or even better academic highschool closer, maybe with a Magnet program, closer to your home and with a better chance to make the baseball team, would you even consider letting your son transfer?

I see this as a grey area. My initial thought is that I would not let my kid change schools because of baseball but maybe it is not just baseball. It could me the whole picture. I also think that each kid and situation is unique.

I am bringing this up not to change the discussion but to let parents know a couple of things from a Dad who has been there and lived it and made it through. My son did not make his Highschool team his Junior and Senior years and is now playing in his 4th year at a D3 program and he loves it. His Highschool team was very competitive and although he was good, he did not stand out enough at tryouts to make the team. It was a big blow and we had a lot of emotions to deal with but he persevered, continued to play Travel Ball, take lessons and get better. We never even talked about or considered changing schools but looking back, I think I would have at least considered it.

Secondly, I was not very involved in the Program, boosters, getting to know the coachs' etc. I mistakenly believed that my sons' talent would be enough. It simply wasn't. The head coach at this Program is not a jerk but he was also swayed by politics and some other factors but I think this is normal. If I had to do it over again, I would have been more involved...

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Originally posted by CaCO3Girl

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Originally posted by NF1974

CaCO3girl,

Let me ask you a hypothetical. I think that your son is a current sophomore. If you had a reasonable belief that your son was not going to make the Varsity team because of any # of reasons, and there was an equally or even better academic highschool closer, maybe with a Magnet program, closer to your home and with a better chance to make the baseball team, would you even consider letting your son transfer?

I see this as a grey area. My initial thought is that I would not let my kid change schools because of baseball but maybe it is not just baseball. It could me the whole picture. I also think that each kid and situation is unique.

I am bringing this up not to change the discussion but to let parents know a couple of things from a Dad who has been there and lived it and made it through. My son did not make his Highschool team his Junior and Senior years and is now playing in his 4th year at a D3 program and he loves it. His Highschool team was very competitive and although he was good, he did not stand out enough at tryouts to make the team. It was a big blow and we had a lot of emotions to deal with but he persevered, continued to play Travel Ball, take lessons and get better. We never even talked about or considered changing schools but looking back, I think I would have at least considered it.

Secondly, I was not very involved in the Program, boosters, getting to know the coachs' etc. I mistakenly believed that my sons' talent would be enough. It simply wasn't. The head coach at this Program is not a jerk but he was also swayed by politics and some other factors but I think this is normal. If I had to do it over again, I would have been more involved...

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He is a current sophomore, and no I wouldn't transfer him. While baseball is very important to him, and there is zero doubt in his mind that he will be playing it for a long time, I won't let it define him. He is my son first and a baseball player second.

I didn't do Atkins, I don't Feng Shui my house, and I'm not buying into this new fad of "my life sucks, I'll just switch schools". I live on a certain road in a certain town and it is zoned for a specific school. THAT is my kids school. If he doesn't make the team then he doesn't. Why is that the end of the world to some people? He will still be on a top summer team and the recruiters will know what's up with his HS coach, it's not a large circle.

The only acceptable reason I have heard for switching schools is that the kids current school didn't offer the IB program, so entering into 9th grade the boy went to a different school. THAT kid is special, most aren't. I'd rather teach my kid to roll with the punches and make lemonade, rather than "There is always a way out of it,I can just sue people, or bully people, or finagle others to get my way", which is becoming a pretty big problem in the world.

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Originally posted by Hurricane

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Originally posted by CaCO3Girl

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Originally posted by NF1974

CaCO3girl,

Let me ask you a hypothetical. I think that your son is a current sophomore. If you had a reasonable belief that your son was not going to make the Varsity team because of any # of reasons, and there was an equally or even better academic highschool closer, maybe with a Magnet program, closer to your home and with a better chance to make the baseball team, would you even consider letting your son transfer?

I see this as a grey area. My initial thought is that I would not let my kid change schools because of baseball but maybe it is not just baseball. It could me the whole picture. I also think that each kid and situation is unique.

I am bringing this up not to change the discussion but to let parents know a couple of things from a Dad who has been there and lived it and made it through. My son did not make his Highschool team his Junior and Senior years and is now playing in his 4th year at a D3 program and he loves it. His Highschool team was very competitive and although he was good, he did not stand out enough at tryouts to make the team. It was a big blow and we had a lot of emotions to deal with but he persevered, continued to play Travel Ball, take lessons and get better. We never even talked about or considered changing schools but looking back, I think I would have at least considered it.

Secondly, I was not very involved in the Program, boosters, getting to know the coachs' etc. I mistakenly believed that my sons' talent would be enough. It simply wasn't. The head coach at this Program is not a jerk but he was also swayed by politics and some other factors but I think this is normal. If I had to do it over again, I would have been more involved...

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He is a current sophomore, and no I wouldn't transfer him. While baseball is very important to him, and there is zero doubt in his mind that he will be playing it for a long time, I won't let it define him. He is my son first and a baseball player second.

I didn't do Atkins, I don't Feng Shui my house, and I'm not buying into this new fad of "my life sucks, I'll just switch schools". I live on a certain road in a certain town and it is zoned for a specific school. THAT is my kids school. If he doesn't make the team then he doesn't. Why is that the end of the world to some people? He will still be on a top summer team and the recruiters will know what's up with his HS coach, it's not a large circle.

The only acceptable reason I have heard for switching schools is that the kids current school didn't offer the IB program, so entering into 9th grade the boy went to a different school. THAT kid is special, most aren't. I'd rather teach my kid to roll with the punches and make lemonade, rather than "There is always a way out of it,I can just sue people, or bully people, or finagle others to get my way", which is becoming a pretty big problem in the world.

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I didn't do Atkins, I don't Feng Shui my house, and I'm not buying into this new fad of "my life sucks, I'll just switch schools".
Would you quit jobs if your boss was an A$$? Would you let your son transfer colleges if he does continue to play and decides he would get better chances of playing if he were to transfer? Or would it still be
"He is my son first and a baseball player second." At what point do you let your son make decisions for himself? Just asking and I agree your post was very well thought out and a good answer to the previous post.

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Originally posted by bama21

This topic gets addressed in some form each year.

The simple answer is: You do what's best for you and yours and let them do what's best for them and theirs.

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Originally posted by bama21

My response was to the general subject, not to you in particular.

Personally, I would not hesitate to switch schools. Playing sports is a window that will only stay open for a short time. Do what you have to and have no regrets. You don't want to look back one day and say..... what if?

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Originally posted by nastycurve

I wouldn't change schools because a coach put my son on JV.

My son is in his second year of college playing and in high school he was a 4 year Varsity player. In 9th grade he played both varsity and JV and 10th-12th was strictly Varsity. Funny thing is, when he was in 10th grade we were getting a LOT of games rained out, he requested to go to and play some JV to keep the rust off. Had a blast playing a game at SS and pitcher. As a sophomore, he was one of the better players in the county, but didnt have the ego of "ive got to play varsity or else", he just wanted to play.

Its funny, kids and parents want coaches to conform to their schedule, but don't give the coaches the same consideration when it comes to planning their team. The OP mentioned that his son wanted to get stronger, so he was wrestling. Did he know ahead of time that wrestling bleeds into baseball? Which is more important wrestling or baseball? Has he ever heard of the weight room?
A personal trainer? Does his son want to be bryce harper, Clayton Kershaw or John Cena when he grows up? The player made a decision that was not in line with what the coach wanted to do with his team. He is the guy that makes the teams and the lineup. Maybe instead of telling your baseball coach "wait til I get finished wrestling", you tell your wrestling coach "Coach, its been fun but I gotta go"- or let him know up front you are out when baseball season starts. Obviously playing HS baseball on this team wasnt all that important, or else he wouldve been there. It cant be important when you deem it important and find time in your busy schedule to be there.

Glad everything worked out and he made it to JUCO, hope he has a great future. Just remember adversity never runs out, but eligibility does. Hope he doesnt see too many road blocks out there, you can only go sideways for so long!

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Originally posted by nastycurve

I wouldn't change schools because a coach put my son on JV.

My son is in his second year of college playing and in high school he was a 4 year Varsity player. In 9th grade he played both varsity and JV and 10th-12th was strictly Varsity. Funny thing is, when he was in 10th grade we were getting a LOT of games rained out, he requested to go to and play some JV to keep the rust off. Had a blast playing a game at SS and pitcher. As a sophomore, he was one of the better players in the county, but didnt have the ego of "ive got to play varsity or else", he just wanted to play.

Its funny, kids and parents want coaches to conform to their schedule, but don't give the coaches the same consideration when it comes to planning their team. The OP mentioned that his son wanted to get stronger, so he was wrestling. Did he know ahead of time that wrestling bleeds into baseball? Which is more important wrestling or baseball? Has he ever heard of the weight room?
A personal trainer? Does his son want to be bryce harper, Clayton Kershaw or John Cena when he grows up? The player made a decision that was not in line with what the coach wanted to do with his team. He is the guy that makes the teams and the lineup. Maybe instead of telling your baseball coach "wait til I get finished wrestling", you tell your wrestling coach "Coach, its been fun but I gotta go"- or let him know up front you are out when baseball season starts. Obviously playing HS baseball on this team wasnt all that important, or else he wouldve been there. It cant be important when you deem it important and find time in your busy schedule to be there.

Glad everything worked out and he made it to JUCO, hope he has a great future. Just remember adversity never runs out, but eligibility does. Hope he doesnt see too many road blocks out there, you can only go sideways for so long!

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Not sure how much you know about GHSA rules but you can not start playing a winter sport until the fall sport is over or spring sport until the winter sport is over for that school. If your team makes the playoffs in football, you can not go to tryouts for basketball until football is officially over. Most good coaches hold a week long practice for any players going from football to basketball and I have seen some kids on varsity get moved down after football was over and kids come out and take their spots, not just say well my team is already set so you are stuck on JV without a tryout or look. Years ago coaches wanted multiple sport athletes but the trend for most HS's is we want you to play on sport and only my sport.

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Originally posted by Hurricane

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Originally posted by nastycurve

I wouldn't change schools because a coach put my son on JV.

My son is in his second year of college playing and in high school he was a 4 year Varsity player. In 9th grade he played both varsity and JV and 10th-12th was strictly Varsity. Funny thing is, when he was in 10th grade we were getting a LOT of games rained out, he requested to go to and play some JV to keep the rust off. Had a blast playing a game at SS and pitcher. As a sophomore, he was one of the better players in the county, but didnt have the ego of "ive got to play varsity or else", he just wanted to play.

Its funny, kids and parents want coaches to conform to their schedule, but don't give the coaches the same consideration when it comes to planning their team. The OP mentioned that his son wanted to get stronger, so he was wrestling. Did he know ahead of time that wrestling bleeds into baseball? Which is more important wrestling or baseball? Has he ever heard of the weight room?
A personal trainer? Does his son want to be bryce harper, Clayton Kershaw or John Cena when he grows up? The player made a decision that was not in line with what the coach wanted to do with his team. He is the guy that makes the teams and the lineup. Maybe instead of telling your baseball coach "wait til I get finished wrestling", you tell your wrestling coach "Coach, its been fun but I gotta go"- or let him know up front you are out when baseball season starts. Obviously playing HS baseball on this team wasnt all that important, or else he wouldve been there. It cant be important when you deem it important and find time in your busy schedule to be there.

Glad everything worked out and he made it to JUCO, hope he has a great future. Just remember adversity never runs out, but eligibility does. Hope he doesnt see too many road blocks out there, you can only go sideways for so long!

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Not sure how much you know about GHSA rules but you can not start playing a winter sport until the fall sport is over or spring sport until the winter sport is over for that school. If your team makes the playoffs in football, you can not go to tryouts for basketball until football is officially over. Most good coaches hold a week long practice for any players going from football to basketball and I have seen some kids on varsity get moved down after football was over and kids come out and take their spots, not just say well my team is already set so you are stuck on JV without a tryout or look. Years ago coaches wanted multiple sport athletes but the trend for most HS's is we want you to play on sport and only my sport.

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Not my experience.

The basketball coaches have a huge tryout and they say at the end "You 20+ guys made it through the first cuts, when football is over we will hold another tryout and some of you will likely be cut then"....in other words they work around football.

The baseball coach holds a huge tryout for a week. At the end of that week he posts a list of who made it. It seems a bit skimpy until about 2 weeks later when 4 basketball kids appear on the final roster. See the coach approached them in the fall prior to basketball starting, and they had some workouts, no more than 4 on 1, but the coach already pre-tried them out. In other words, basketball is not an issue with football.

Football workouts start in May, kind of an unfortunate time for a travel baseball player. Football coach was very understanding of my son missing several practices and workouts due to travel baseball. His actual words were "I realize it's not my season right now, all I ask is you communicate when he won't be here and come August he is mine 100%."....yup....not a problem.

So, that has been my first hand experience with HS athletics. Maybe it's an anomaly, but it shouldn't be.

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