| Author |
 Topic  |
|
|
jaguars18
245 Posts |
 Posted - 03/30/2010 : 15:14:49
|
I am not sure of the right answer but as teams get older they are allowed more innings but the time limit never allows such.
Why tell 14u teams they get 7 innings and then allow them 1:45 to play a game. Seems like entry fee should be based on innings played not innings promised. Why do older groups pay more and get same time limit? |
|
|
rjrousseau1
81 Posts |
Posted - 04/04/2010 : 09:51:52
|
| Time limits have always been a big issue with me and are part of the criteria I use to select tournaments. IMO a well played game with a score like 5-4 should be able to get the maximum innings completed for that age group. But many tournament time limits do not allow that. In the 12 and under age groups some affiliations use a 1:30 time limit and it's hard to even get 5 innings completed. So if you play 4 games you may only play 16 innings of baseball which is less than three 6 inning games. Then to make matters worse the umpires waste too much time in between innings, rarely counting the # of warm up pitches a kid throws. Those affiliations should not be surprised when teams don't return and they struggle to attract teams for future tournaments. I understand there is an issue to get the scheduled games completed but 4 innings isn't a baseball game, nor is 5 innings once they start playing 7. |
 |
|
|
Alter-Ego
802 Posts |
Posted - 04/04/2010 : 14:32:02
|
Jaguar,
Triple Crown uses 2hr/7 innings in both 13U and 14U. I believe the other organizations do as well.
Is there a particular tournament or sanctioning body that you ran into a reduced game time for 14U's?
__________________________________________________________________________________
While I hate to lose a game by running out of time, after 2 hours both teams have had ample opportunities to win. I just don't think teams do enough situational hitting to manufacture runs (hit and run, hit to the right side to move a runner from 2nd to 3b, bunt to move a runner over, etc). Too much of "Come on guys, be patient (or some say aggressive) and get a rip somewhere." The leadoff guy gets on with a double. The next batter hits a grounder to SS, freezing the runner and making him stay at 2b. (1 out) Next batter hits a fly ball to RF, which moves the runner to 3b. (2 outs) The next batter strikes out. 3 outs, 0 runs scored. Had the 2nd batter hit the ball to the right side, rather than the SS, the runner on 2b could have moved to 3b and scored on the fly ball to RF. 3 outs, 1 run scored. If you can average manufacturing 1 extra run 4 out of 7 innings, that can keep you in many games that get out of reach. Just look at any team's record, how many games do they lose by more than 4 runs?
(That last soapbox rant is not meant specifically for Jaguar, just in general.) |
|
|
|
Alter-Ego
802 Posts |
Posted - 04/04/2010 : 19:03:54
|
Teddy,
You are right, TC does use 2 hr limits, while USSSA (no new inning after 1 hr 50 minutes) and USTBA (no new inning after 1 hr 40 minutes) use less than that for 13U/14U. I agree that this is too short to ensure a good probability that 7 innings can get in.
I still stand by my rant that a lot of coaches don't team manufacturing runs to keep themselves in a position to win at the end. |
|
|
|
teddy41
421 Posts |
Posted - 04/04/2010 : 21:48:18
|
| True but it does help get kids playing time, that extra inning may be a bat for a kid who has not gotten one yet. Whether your winning or losing. Your looking at winning games and i am looking at playing time over the course of a season. |
|
|
|
USTBA08
121 Posts |
Posted - 04/05/2010 : 10:32:01
|
USTBA uses the following time limits.
NO NEW INNING MAY BEGIN AFTER
8 & Under 6 Innings 1:30 (1 Hour & 30 Minutes)
9U thru 12U 6 Innings 1:40 (1 Hour & 40 Minutes)
13U & 14U 7 Innings 1:50 (1 Hour & 50 Minutes)
15U thru 18U 9 Innings 2:00 (2 Hour & 00 Minutes)
|
|
|
| |
Topic |
|
|
|
Time limits
