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StormChaser14
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 Posted - 09/13/2015 : 14:11:59
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| After 4 years of constant baseball my son told me he wanted to take off this fall until school ball starts up in Feb. Travel ball coach acted like I kicked him in the groin.I just don`t want him to burn out on baseball at 12. Thoughts ???? |
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hshuler
1074 Posts |
Posted - 09/13/2015 : 14:51:15
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| I would bet that somewhere along the way the fun part of baseball has been lost. It's been my experience that kids burnout when adults are involved and it sounds like the coach maybe too demanding. I applaud you for listening. |
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bballman
1432 Posts |
Posted - 09/13/2015 : 15:44:25
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| Take the fall off. He's only 12. Let him be a kid. |
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in_the_know
985 Posts |
Posted - 09/13/2015 : 16:21:16
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Take a fall off now, or take the rest of his playing days off in a year.
Who is the kid playing for, himself, his parents or the coach? If it's either of the latter, he's playing for the wrong reasons. If he needs time off, by all means, give it to him. It will be a great opportunity to learn if he misses it or feels like he's missing other things that he'd prefer. Better to learn now than half way to or through HS (when all the money has been spent). Enjoy the fall off and take a couple of weekends doing family things outside of baseball. |
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DecaturDad
619 Posts |
Posted - 09/13/2015 : 16:31:25
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| If your son wants a break, let him take it. At that age, my son always did something else in the fall with the occasional game thrown in when he could make it. sure, he may need to do a little bit of catch up come spring, but after a few weeks, he should be right back where he was. |
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jmac83
46 Posts |
Posted - 09/13/2015 : 16:55:03
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| Easy decision. Let him. It's a game, not a job. |
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Ross
60 Posts |
Posted - 09/13/2015 : 21:55:07
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| If his coaching is about developing the boys for baseball and life then the travel ball coach would have been supportive of what was best for the kid. |
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brball
615 Posts |
Posted - 09/13/2015 : 23:45:12
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| Listen to your kid here! He obviously wants a break from baseball, so let him have it. Long story short, let him be a kid 1st and a player 2nd! |
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TAZ980002
831 Posts |
Posted - 09/14/2015 : 12:55:52
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| Stormchaser, my 12 y/o is taking the Fall AND Spring off. IMHO, their bodies need time to grow without the constant repetitive stress of one sport. They are at great risk of growth plate injury at this age, especially if they pitch. |
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LAMAN
8 Posts |
Posted - 09/14/2015 : 14:03:47
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| my son just made same decision "no more baseball" 75% of the decision based on the coach manager had his little favorites and did not hide it his son never left the field even after multiple errors in same inning or really terrible on the mound others boys were pulled to bench quicker then quick and most of all he did not care how the other boys felt and take my word the boys noticed every thing I agree let your son take a break |
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bballman
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Posted - 09/14/2015 : 14:58:24
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Originally posted by LAMAN
my son just made same decision "no more baseball" 75% of the decision based on the coach manager had his little favorites and did not hide it his son never left the field even after multiple errors in same inning or really terrible on the mound others boys were pulled to bench quicker then quick and most of all he did not care how the other boys felt and take my word the boys noticed every thing I agree let your son take a break
That's a shame what happened to your son. You should give him a little time, and suggest he give it another try with a different coach. This REALLY does not happen with every team out there.
Do your homework and find a team, with a good coach, that your son can play on. If it's not fun, there will be a point that the kids will not want to play anymore. Some of these coaches take youth baseball WAY too serious. It IS possible to teach fundamentals, want to win AND have fun while you're doing it. And there are coaches out there that know how to do this.
It's our job as parents to find them. |
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Crazyforbball
391 Posts |
Posted - 09/14/2015 : 18:05:06
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| Definitely take the fall off. A good coach will have no problem with this! Many of the teams have football players anyway and are happy to accommodate them! It should be no different for a kid who wants a rest.. |
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AllStar
762 Posts |
Posted - 09/14/2015 : 20:27:57
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I thought this was going to be about making 10 year-olds play 4-5 games in 90 degree heat on a Sunday so they can make it to the 'ship.
THAT's too much baseball.
Easy decision. Let him take the fall off. |
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StormChaser14
2 Posts |
Posted - 09/15/2015 : 00:13:55
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| Thanks for the input I think he needs and deserves the break and who knows we could use the money saved for family weekends not thinking about baseball |
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nastycurve
244 Posts |
Posted - 09/15/2015 : 13:37:26
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Look. If you are going to get him ready for the 2021 draft, you must work relentlessly. All this take the fall off stuff is for sugarpies. Everyone is telling you to take the fall off so their son can get a leg up on yours... Dont believe the hype, these people are not your friends, they are your competition!!!
Follow these steps to get him back on path:
1. Take him on a half hour drive
2. Stop and buy him an ice cream cone
3. Ask him does he want to play.
4. If answer is no, smack the ice cream cone out of his hand.
5. ask AGAIN does he want to play.
6. If the answer is no, tell him to get out and drive away.
7. Bonus step, drive to the nearest orphanage and get a new son, your wife wont know the difference.
After that, the answer should be yes. If not, you have to show him how much you really care about baseball by taking his bat and breaking something in the near vicinity. Make a note to leave the area quickly before law enforcement arrives, vandalism charges dont go well with forci...i mean "helping" your son "choose" to prepare for the 2021 draft.
Once you yell... I mean "explain", how important it is to him not to miss a moment of baseball with all this frivolous "having fun" and "being a kid", I'm sure hell get it, and will prepare nonstop to be the #1 draft pick.
In all seriousness, if a 12 year old child is making a vocal decision of not wanting to play a fun game with friends, listen to him. If he doesn't play and misses it, he will come back to it, if he doesnt play and doesnt miss it, then you can focus your time and efforts elsewhere. |
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Kory
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Posted - 09/15/2015 : 22:14:32
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I think the real issue is that your son ISN'T asking to play football. What is wrong with that kid?!
Just Kidding. Enjoy the time off. I know that we all get "sports-fatigued" now and again and enjoy some actualy family time away from lights, bad food, and dirty restrooms. For us, our son is taking the winter off from everything to get some much needed rest....and maybe lift a few weights :) |
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brball
615 Posts |
Posted - 09/15/2015 : 22:34:01
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Originally posted by nastycurve
Look. If you are going to get him ready for the 2021 draft, you must work relentlessly. All this take the fall off stuff is for sugarpies. Everyone is telling you to take the fall off so their son can get a leg up on yours... Dont believe the hype, these people are not your friends, they are your competition!!!
Follow these steps to get him back on path:
1. Take him on a half hour drive
2. Stop and buy him an ice cream cone
3. Ask him does he want to play.
4. If answer is no, smack the ice cream cone out of his hand.
5. ask AGAIN does he want to play.
6. If the answer is no, tell him to get out and drive away.
7. Bonus step, drive to the nearest orphanage and get a new son, your wife wont know the difference.
After that, the answer should be yes. If not, you have to show him how much you really care about baseball by taking his bat and breaking something in the near vicinity. Make a note to leave the area quickly before law enforcement arrives, vandalism charges dont go well with forci...i mean "helping" your son "choose" to prepare for the 2021 draft.
Once you yell... I mean "explain", how important it is to him not to miss a moment of baseball with all this frivolous "having fun" and "being a kid", I'm sure hell get it, and will prepare nonstop to be the #1 draft pick.
In all seriousness, if a 12 year old child is making a vocal decision of not wanting to play a fun game with friends, listen to him. If he doesn't play and misses it, he will come back to it, if he doesnt play and doesnt miss it, then you can focus your time and efforts elsewhere.
You know there are starving comedians everywhere, right? Shame on you and LOL at the same time. Just for the record, my son hates the ice cream cone... He prefers the $5 shake and occasional "cheese dog"! |
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bfriendly
376 Posts |
Posted - 09/16/2015 : 06:22:04
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No brainer, let him take the time off................BUT, what will he be doing during this time?
When you take away 3-5 days a week of some type of baseball activity, what will it be replaced by? That would be my only concern. |
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CaCO3Girl
1989 Posts |
Posted - 09/16/2015 : 08:54:47
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Originally posted by StormChaser14
After 4 years of constant baseball my son told me he wanted to take off this fall until school ball starts up in Feb. Travel ball coach acted like I kicked him in the groin.I just don`t want him to burn out on baseball at 12. Thoughts ????
There are many reasons a kid will choose not to play baseball. If the coach acted like you kicked him then your child was valued by his coach, that eliminates 90% of the reasons for a 12 year old to not want to play. All you are left with is that the kid truly doesn't want to play.
My son has played baseball for 8 years. I can say with absolute certainty that in that 8 years he would have played any time any where because he LOVES the game. If your kid doesn't LOVE baseball, which he has shown by asking to take time off, I would HIGHLY suggest you find another sport. Football, soccer, basketball, lacrosse...all of these can be great for kids who are athletic but don't LOVE baseball.
Remind yourself that this is about HIS youth, and no one elses. I think ALL children should play a sport, keep trying them out until you find one he loves or he finds something else to be passionate about, maybe computers, or fixing cars...if he's telling you he doesn't want to play baseball that's the end of baseball until HE brings it up again. The amount of teams that are available at 12u to 15u is very different. MANY kids around your sons age choose to no longer play. |
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turntwo
955 Posts |
Posted - 09/16/2015 : 08:57:22
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Originally posted by brball
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Originally posted by nastycurve
Look. If you are going to get him ready for the 2021 draft, you must work relentlessly. All this take the fall off stuff is for sugarpies. Everyone is telling you to take the fall off so their son can get a leg up on yours... Dont believe the hype, these people are not your friends, they are your competition!!!
Follow these steps to get him back on path:
1. Take him on a half hour drive
2. Stop and buy him an ice cream cone
3. Ask him does he want to play.
4. If answer is no, smack the ice cream cone out of his hand.
5. ask AGAIN does he want to play.
6. If the answer is no, tell him to get out and drive away.
7. Bonus step, drive to the nearest orphanage and get a new son, your wife wont know the difference.
After that, the answer should be yes. If not, you have to show him how much you really care about baseball by taking his bat and breaking something in the near vicinity. Make a note to leave the area quickly before law enforcement arrives, vandalism charges dont go well with forci...i mean "helping" your son "choose" to prepare for the 2021 draft.
Once you yell... I mean "explain", how important it is to him not to miss a moment of baseball with all this frivolous "having fun" and "being a kid", I'm sure hell get it, and will prepare nonstop to be the #1 draft pick.
In all seriousness, if a 12 year old child is making a vocal decision of not wanting to play a fun game with friends, listen to him. If he doesn't play and misses it, he will come back to it, if he doesnt play and doesnt miss it, then you can focus your time and efforts elsewhere.
You know there are starving comedians everywhere, right? Shame on you and LOL at the same time. Just for the record, my son hates the ice cream cone... He prefers the $5 shake and occasional "cheese dog"!
Who doesn't like cheese dogs! Heck, even Ol' Coach Kent Murphy loves cheese dogs. #dingersandstingers |
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AllStar
762 Posts |
Posted - 09/17/2015 : 12:42:14
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Originally posted by nastycurve
Look. If you are going to get him ready for the 2021 draft, you must work relentlessly. All this take the fall off stuff is for sugarpies. Everyone is telling you to take the fall off so their son can get a leg up on yours... Dont believe the hype, these people are not your friends, they are your competition!!!
Follow these steps to get him back on path:
1. Take him on a half hour drive
2. Stop and buy him an ice cream cone
3. Ask him does he want to play.
4. If answer is no, smack the ice cream cone out of his hand.
5. ask AGAIN does he want to play.
6. If the answer is no, tell him to get out and drive away.
7. Bonus step, drive to the nearest orphanage and get a new son, your wife wont know the difference.
After that, the answer should be yes. If not, you have to show him how much you really care about baseball by taking his bat and breaking something in the near vicinity. Make a note to leave the area quickly before law enforcement arrives, vandalism charges dont go well with forci...i mean "helping" your son "choose" to prepare for the 2021 draft.
Once you yell... I mean "explain", how important it is to him not to miss a moment of baseball with all this frivolous "having fun" and "being a kid", I'm sure hell get it, and will prepare nonstop to be the #1 draft pick.
Worked for us.Well it got him through high school ball at least. For some reason he doesn't come home from college much...
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tdt9080
36 Posts |
Posted - 09/17/2015 : 14:16:04
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I have a similar issue with Getting kids out to practice Baseball in the Fall. I ask for any advice from coaches, parents and any other with great advice about this subject.
I coach some 5 year olds kids who will be playing 6 year old baseball next year, These kids love to play and have fun and our little team has enjoyed success at our local park the past years for such a young age. This past season I have had a few come to me an inquire about getting their son some extra work with baseball fundamentals and skill. So as a coach I went out and found a group that teaches and trains these kids at the young level the basic skills of playing baseball and to help with thier agility and baseball knowledge. Before you ask why I am not teaching them these training session in the fall, the answer is I am helping assist the group we are asking to help us out. I myself wanted more teaching tools and coaching tools and I recognize I could pickup from these guys and it has been beneficial to myself and some of the other coaches who attend these sessions as well. My issue is now that the fall has come and a majority of my team plays other sports, football, soccer, basketball. the same folks that asks for the training is no where to be found at the training but have been making comments with others about we are overworking the boys with baseball and that they need a break from it. I to agree they need a break and my kids from the past 2 years have stayed away from baseball for at least 5-6 months out of the year but with us going into 6 year old level next year, I thought this would be a great time to help with teaching how to catch pop-ups, throwing mechanics, base-running and agility training. We have competed against 6 year olds and was surprised by how many teams last year at that age could throw and catch at a very good level and as a coach I wanted the same for my team. I am wondering am I expecting to much from my parents to ask them to bring their son out so we can help him in those areas of concern or am I over working them when it comes to baseball. I am only asking for one- day a week if you play another sport and if you are not playing anything 2 days a week. Some of the complaints I have been hearing are; 1.) they need a break,2.) we don't wont to harm their little arms,3.) they need to play other sports.
First we are a coach pitch team at this age so no chance in hurting their arms, the main focus is agility, throwing mechanics, and catching pop-up and throws. as well as increasing there knowledge for the game at this age. I have a group of kids that do come out but what I am seeing and hearing now is that others feel some type of way about the training session the other kids are getting and feel as if I moving their kids out of the way for these other kids to join the team. We have a number of kids who do not throw and catch well and the reason I offered the training was I have a number of parents who do not work with their child at home to get better and wanted to give them a chance to get their son some work to help improve before the season comes next year. I have seen the kids get so much better with the training and I know once the whole team come together their will be issues about who play were and who bats were but I figure I gave all the same opportunity.
I just wanted some advice as to am I over working a 5-6 year old by offering training session in the fall from septemeber and October before it gets cold.
***A coach just wanting to do right by the kids. need some advice.*** |
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CaCO3Girl
1989 Posts |
Posted - 09/18/2015 : 14:22:51
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Originally posted by tdt9080
I have a similar issue with Getting kids out to practice Baseball in the Fall. I ask for any advice from coaches, parents and any other with great advice about this subject.
I coach some 5 year olds kids who will be playing 6 year old baseball next year, These kids love to play and have fun and our little team has enjoyed success at our local park the past years for such a young age. This past season I have had a few come to me an inquire about getting their son some extra work with baseball fundamentals and skill. So as a coach I went out and found a group that teaches and trains these kids at the young level the basic skills of playing baseball and to help with thier agility and baseball knowledge. Before you ask why I am not teaching them these training session in the fall, the answer is I am helping assist the group we are asking to help us out. I myself wanted more teaching tools and coaching tools and I recognize I could pickup from these guys and it has been beneficial to myself and some of the other coaches who attend these sessions as well. My issue is now that the fall has come and a majority of my team plays other sports, football, soccer, basketball. the same folks that asks for the training is no where to be found at the training but have been making comments with others about we are overworking the boys with baseball and that they need a break from it. I to agree they need a break and my kids from the past 2 years have stayed away from baseball for at least 5-6 months out of the year but with us going into 6 year old level next year, I thought this would be a great time to help with teaching how to catch pop-ups, throwing mechanics, base-running and agility training. We have competed against 6 year olds and was surprised by how many teams last year at that age could throw and catch at a very good level and as a coach I wanted the same for my team. I am wondering am I expecting to much from my parents to ask them to bring their son out so we can help him in those areas of concern or am I over working them when it comes to baseball. I am only asking for one- day a week if you play another sport and if you are not playing anything 2 days a week. Some of the complaints I have been hearing are; 1.) they need a break,2.) we don't wont to harm their little arms,3.) they need to play other sports.
First we are a coach pitch team at this age so no chance in hurting their arms, the main focus is agility, throwing mechanics, and catching pop-up and throws. as well as increasing there knowledge for the game at this age. I have a group of kids that do come out but what I am seeing and hearing now is that others feel some type of way about the training session the other kids are getting and feel as if I moving their kids out of the way for these other kids to join the team. We have a number of kids who do not throw and catch well and the reason I offered the training was I have a number of parents who do not work with their child at home to get better and wanted to give them a chance to get their son some work to help improve before the season comes next year. I have seen the kids get so much better with the training and I know once the whole team come together their will be issues about who play were and who bats were but I figure I gave all the same opportunity.
I just wanted some advice as to am I over working a 5-6 year old by offering training session in the fall from septemeber and October before it gets cold.
***A coach just wanting to do right by the kids. need some advice.***
It is my OPINION that travel ball should not start until at least 9u. I have a 6 year old, she is currently learning to add periods to the end of her sentences and her spelling words this week included the words "nap", "bed", and "sled", and around 2pm she gets cranky because she really wants a nap....the thought of putting her in year round baseball is absurd.
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tunini2
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Posted - 09/18/2015 : 14:51:01
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Originally posted by tdt9080
...I just wanted some advice as to am I over working a 5-6 year old by offering training session in the fall from septemeber and October before it gets cold.
***A coach just wanting to do right by the kids. need some advice.***
Yes you are over working them mentally. But if parents are willing to pay you to train them, then take their money  I think its the parents fault for putting too much strain in their bodies without recognizing the affects of overplaying in sports.
There are two factors that I think make parents want their kids to get training lessons at that age. Its either they want their kid to get an edge in the spring season or they don't want their kids to catch bad habits or both.
At 5-6 years of age, parents should be the one throwing a baseball to their kid and not a coach. Having a catch with my kid is what I look forward to after a long day at work and is a remedy to all my stresses. Just my 2 cents. |
Edited by - tunini2 on 09/18/2015 15:06:16 |
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DecaturDad
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Posted - 09/18/2015 : 15:25:16
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Originally posted by tunini2
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Originally posted by tdt9080
...I just wanted some advice as to am I over working a 5-6 year old by offering training session in the fall from septemeber and October before it gets cold.
***A coach just wanting to do right by the kids. need some advice.***
Yes you are over working them mentally. But if parents are willing to pay you to train them, then take their money I think its the parents fault for putting too much strain in their bodies without recognizing the affects of overplaying in sports.
There are two factors that I think make parents want their kids to get training lessons at that age. Its either they want their kid to get an edge in the spring season or they don't want their kids to catch bad habits or both.
At 5-6 years of age, parents should be the one throwing a baseball to their kid and not a coach. Having a catch with my kid is what I look forward to after a long day at work and is a remedy to all my stresses. Just my 2 cents.
I miss that days when I could throw with my son. I remember spending hours with him when he was younger. I even coached him a little. I gave up coaching after he needed more then "swing hard, run fast". |
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CaCO3Girl
1989 Posts |
Posted - 09/18/2015 : 16:14:09
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Originally posted by DecaturDad
I miss that days when I could throw with my son. I remember spending hours with him when he was younger. I even coached him a little. I gave up coaching after he needed more then "swing hard, run fast".
We should start a different thread....at what age could you no longer catch for your son?
You could NOT pay me to catch with him now...being able to catch would imply I was able to see the ball before it hit me and actually have a chance to catch it. Nope! Those days are gone. |
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