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pcc

28 Posts

Posted - 10/27/2008 :  18:02:37  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Are there any test results as to what bat hits the ball the furthest? I would be interested to know if anyone knows of any results on the web? I have been unable to find any. What bat is best really depends on who you talk too. Lots of people do not like the composite bats but many of the so called experts or people who sell them say go with the all composite. A lot of the all composite also have tons of different technology depending on the company that makes it. At a tournament this weekend I noticed that there are lots of kids with all composite but also a lot with half composite and half aluminum and some with the all aluminum Worth bat. I figure someone must have tested these at some time or another and found which one hits the ball the longest......if not I might have to do one. Any input would be appreciated.

Infinity

33 Posts

Posted - 10/27/2008 :  21:58:15  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
hitting the ball with proper mechanics will hit the ball further!!! Some bats may give you a fraction of an inch of a larger sweet spot which may result in one texas leaguer out of 100 at bats however most higher end bats will produce the same results if swung correctly. When Fred Couples changed contracts from Tommy Armours 845 clubs to the now defunct Lynx clubs back in the early 90's, he was quoted as saying that he could hit a set of K-mart clubs just as well but he'll be more than happy to take someones money to use their clubs.

My best advice is to go get a wood bat and throw BP to your son often. Once he learns to swing a wood bat and hit the ball with authority he will be driving the ball with any composite or alloy bat much further than he is today.

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pcc

28 Posts

Posted - 10/29/2008 :  08:50:07  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Excellent. Thank you for response.
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greglomax

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Posted - 10/30/2008 :  17:00:37  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
We need to submit this to Mythbusters to let them test. It would be interesting to see how they came up with a repeatable test process.

They tested other baseball myths like "Sliding Head First into 1B is faster than running through." Surely they could come up with a way to test this.

I was thinking about a way to get one of the portal hitting sticks that you torque back and when you let go it swing around so the batter can hit it, and replacing the hitting stick with a bat. Take that and put a ball on a tee so the bat can swing around and hit the ball off the tee. If you could mark exactly the spot you put it back to each time, you could have a controlled test to measure the pop off of different bats.

My buddy Rich Novack over at Sports-a-rama should sponsor something like that now that he is selling bats, don't you think?

Edited by - greglomax on 10/30/2008 19:05:45
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Hook Em Horns

105 Posts

Posted - 10/31/2008 :  08:11:05  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I would suspect testing went into the mechanical design process of the bat on the front end similar to the robotic testing that occirs with golf clubs. That data resides somewhere, probably with the manufacturers...mythbusters may be the only way to root out the variances between, 2 1/4, 2 5/8 aluminum and composites. Send em an email and let us know when to watch.
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SportsDad

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Posted - 10/31/2008 :  11:50:38  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I would think it would be pretty easy to figure out what is the "hottest' bat. The bat that has a BESR of 0.728 would in theory be the hottest legal bat. I would think that using decreasing values from the BESR of 0.728 would give you an order of the hottest legal bats. It amazes me that bat makers don't list the BESR as a sales tool. I would think if I were a bat maker and my bat had a BESR of .0728, I'd be promoting that, than again, there just might not be that great of variance of BESR among any makers and therefore the best promotional tool to sell the bat, is all the other "claims" that make people feel, this brand of bat is the best.
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pcc

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Posted - 10/31/2008 :  16:12:52  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I agree.....we need to send it to myth busters.
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Hook Em Horns

105 Posts

Posted - 11/03/2008 :  07:40:17  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Here is the reply about marketing the BESR to sell the bats from the guy who ran the study....interesting:

"BESR is a performance standard that sets a ceiling on batted-ball speed. Because all manufacturers aim to hit the upper limit of the BESR, there is no advantage for marketing the BESR any more than to say that a bat is BESR certified. Currently, only high school and college bats must satisfy the BESR standard.
To the best of my knowledge, youth senior baseball bats do not have to satisfy any performance standard. I am doing research to get a measure of the performance of these bats. The goal of the study is to help the governing bodies see whether or not they should implement a performance ceiling and potential ways to do so.
Thank you for your questions."

Sincerely,
Jim Sherwood, PhD, PE
Professor of Mechanical Eng'g
Director of the Baseball Research Center
http://m-5.eng.uml.edu/umlbrc
Co-Director of The Advanced Composite Materials & Textile Research Lab
http://m-5.eng.uml.edu/acmtrl
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One University Ave.
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Phone: 978-934-3313 (University Office)
978-703-4744 (Home Office)
Fax: 978-945-5701
Email: james_sherwood@uml.edu
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