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AllStar

762 Posts

Posted - 02/19/2015 :  21:47:36  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
What is "dual enrollment"?
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Ready2Play

6 Posts

Posted - 02/20/2015 :  07:20:39  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Dual Enrollment is when a student takes colleges courses while he/she is still in high school. The college courses count towards the student's high school diploma and are also applied towards a college degree: http://www.gadoe.org/Curriculum-Instruction-and-Assessment/CTAE/Documents/CollegeCreditNow-DE.pdf
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Critical Mass

277 Posts

Posted - 02/20/2015 :  08:31:57  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Yeah. reminds me of one mom who usually "yells" or raises her voice enough to be heard during quiet moments of the game when the pitcher throws a few balls in a row or is in a jam.....this comes out: "RELAAAAAX"

Really.....as if.
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ABC_Baseball

90 Posts

Posted - 02/20/2015 :  09:24:14  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by whits23


As far as the 6-9 year old boards nothing is worse than parents debating who is the best team at a certain age group. Drive the car pay the bills and sit down >...MIke Matheny letter is a must read. Of course most think its a great letter written for other people.


I have to agree with you on your point above.

What really irritates me is the situation we are in right now. Bad/cold weather and a lot of missed practices. There are tees and indoor facilities, but I’m not sure all of our kids take advantage of it. We have a schedule to play and we each invest a lot of money. Work and focus on baseball. Don’t let the weather keep your kid from working on individual skills when you are paying close to 2k for him to be part of a team. Others are counting on you!
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AllStar

762 Posts

Posted - 02/20/2015 :  09:45:54  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Ready2Play

Dual Enrollment is when a student takes colleges courses while he/she is still in high school. The college courses count towards the student's high school diploma and are also applied towards a college degree: http://www.gadoe.org/Curriculum-Instruction-and-Assessment/CTAE/Documents/CollegeCreditNow-DE.pdf



Haha-I thought it meant getting hitting and pitching lessons....
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BaseballMom6

233 Posts

Posted - 02/20/2015 :  11:00:24  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
The big advantage of Dual enrollment is that the tuition is paid by the state. So for those students who qualify and are interested you get a head start on college without the bills!
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Tball

142 Posts

Posted - 02/20/2015 :  16:26:44  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Gotta love the coaches or parents telling little Johnny to relax and just throw strikes.... Do you really think he was trying to throw ball 4
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whits23

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Posted - 02/20/2015 :  20:50:01  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
parent who yell on every play for me usually end up on another team soon. too old to deal with that. Sort of like parents behind backstop during kids at bat or telling them how good they are pitching and to knock kids off the plate.

I actually had a dad on opposing team calling out our pitches from the stands and confronted the other coach. I explained even if he did not endorse it he was doing nothing to stop it. I would never have a pitcher throw at another kid but some coach will if he does that to the wrong team.

relax and throw strikes is not too bad its a step above dude just throw strikes will ya. At least relax is somewhat coaching LOL.

How about keep your eye on the ball..no one really keeps their on on the ball or watches the ball hit the bat. if they say that then you know they have no clue.

Without spell check i am in the same boat as critical mass or schuler i am afraid.
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AllStar

762 Posts

Posted - 02/21/2015 :  19:13:07  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by whits23

How about keep your eye on the ball..no one really keeps their on on the ball or watches the ball hit the bat. if they say that then you know they have no clue.



disagree. Look at any book on hitting and no matter the type of hitter they've got their eyes right where the ball is meeting the bat. Now they may not actually SEE it because of the speed everything is moving at, but they are definitely "keeping their eye on the ball".
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AllStar

762 Posts

Posted - 02/22/2015 :  16:16:55  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
People that complained about Cooperstown
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whits23

596 Posts

Posted - 02/22/2015 :  16:44:54  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
you have a book? do tell i would love to see it

here are a few articles that explain. I also was lucky enough to spend a weekend with kevin long former hitting coach for yankees and he said as well its a saying that makes no sense. I trust him even though they replaced him

A common coach’s tip to hitters is to “keep your eye on the ball” or “watch the ball hit the bat”. As vision research has shown, doing both of these things is nearly impossible due to the concept known as “angular velocity”.

http://axonpotential.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/Science-of-the-Swing.jpg

http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/seriouslyscience/2013/06/12/really-good-baseball-players-dont-just-keep-their-eye-on-the-ball/#.VOpOdPnF-So

Edited by - whits23 on 02/22/2015 17:39:45
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whits23

596 Posts

Posted - 02/22/2015 :  16:56:03  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by whits23

you have a book? do tell i would love to see it sometime for real. i guess you assume we would know about it? no disrespect but maybe i am one of the few who do not know.

I think we are both right to a degree..yes watch ball..pick up spin etc and hope to see it as far as you can. but you do not see it hit the bat. Most of the time when i swung it hit the catchers mitt. LOL

here are a few articles that explain. I also was lucky enough to spend a weekend with kevin long former hitting coach for yankees and he said as well its a saying that makes no sense. I trust him even though they replaced him

A common coach’s tip to hitters is to “keep your eye on the ball” or “watch the ball hit the bat”. As vision research has shown, doing both of these things is nearly impossible due to the concept known as “angular velocity”.

http://axonpotential.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/Science-of-the-Swing.jpg

http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/seriouslyscience/2013/06/12/really-good-baseball-players-dont-just-keep-their-eye-on-the-ball/#.VOpOdPnF-So


Edited by - whits23 on 02/22/2015 17:39:45
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bballman

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Posted - 02/22/2015 :  18:34:40  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Sounds to me like the articles you posted basically say that while batters do not actually track the ball from the pitchers hand all the way to contact, what they actually do is try to predict where the ball will be at the contact point with the bat. So more accurately, the phrase shouldn't be keep your eye on the ball, but it SHOULD be watch the ball hit the bat. Although I'm sure it's pretty much impossible to do that, trying to do that will help a batter keep their head in. The worst thing a hitter can do is pull their head out so they have no idea where the ball is going. Not to mention the other mechanical flaws that result from that.

I don't think there is anything wrong with "keep your eye on the ball", although it may not be exactly accurate. On the other hand, "watch the ball hit the bat" is more along the lines of what these articles are saying. Batters subconsciously predict where the ball will be when it makes contact, therefore their focus will be at the spot where the ball hits the bat.
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hshuler

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Posted - 02/22/2015 :  22:01:18  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Some instructors just like to be different but the longer a hitter tracks the ball, the better. Whether they actually see it off the barrel or not is irrelevant. I think we all get the concept.
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turntwo

955 Posts

Posted - 02/23/2015 :  09:11:35  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
As I witnessed this weekend.... Hearing parents of the opposing team laughing out loud when a KID (let's say under 12) drops a pop-up. Classless.
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AllStar

762 Posts

Posted - 02/23/2015 :  11:06:20  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by whits23

[quote]
I think we are both right to a degree..yes watch ball..pick up spin etc and hope to see it as far as you can. but you do not see it hit the bat.



Agreed.

I don't know how to post pictures, or even if we can, but this is a good pic of Albert Pujols at least trying to keep his eye on the ball.

http://media.al.com/sports_impact/photo/9319385-large.jpg
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rippit

667 Posts

Posted - 02/23/2015 :  12:24:52  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by turntwo

As I witnessed this weekend.... Hearing parents of the opposing team laughing out loud when a KID (let's say under 12) drops a pop-up. Classless.



Is it okay to laugh when they are in HS? Or college? Or god forbid THE PROS??
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AllStar

762 Posts

Posted - 02/23/2015 :  13:58:06  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by rippit

quote:
Originally posted by turntwo

As I witnessed this weekend.... Hearing parents of the opposing team laughing out loud when a KID (let's say under 12) drops a pop-up. Classless.



Is it okay to laugh when they are in HS? Or college? Or god forbid THE PROS??



I'm not 100% sure this is a serious question, but here goes anyway.

Certainly at those ages the other team's students will laugh at you and NEVER let you forget it. As an adult I probably wouldn't at a HS or College player, but probably would at an MLB player. Especially a Phillie or Met.

Now that we've been through it, I generally feel for the kid, at any age, because I know how he and the people that love him feel.

If you're laughing at 12 YOs and under messing up on the field, you seriously need a check up.
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whits23

596 Posts

Posted - 02/23/2015 :  19:44:34  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
it is sort of like when a kid hits a ball and parents on that team say drop it drop it..they are actually just rooting for their kid but probably do not know how stupid it sounds to root for a player to miss a ROUTINE ball.

Since the weather stinks and we can not get out yet this could go forever but here is another one.

Coaches who go out to argue call's or non balk's and then complain when you change pitchers late in game because you are running out the clock. Had they not spent half the game debating umps on calls they wont get changed they would have time.
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whits23

596 Posts

Posted - 02/23/2015 :  19:47:08  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
to piggy back on what shuler said about watching the ball..Jeter always watches pitches he takes all the way to the mitt. I always felt if you take a pitch watch it all the way.
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rippit

667 Posts

Posted - 02/23/2015 :  20:46:29  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Yeah I wasn't being completely serious. #128540; kids can laugh at kids. Adults need to act like adults. I know some adults that have a hard time with this.
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AllStar

762 Posts

Posted - 02/24/2015 :  11:05:44  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by rippit

Adults need to act like adults. I know some adults that have a hard time with this.



+1
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tuffmavrick

47 Posts

Posted - 02/24/2015 :  17:25:07  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Rippit, kids laughing at kids is just as bad as adults. No class and a coach that lets it happen should not be coaching. The game is about character as much teaching the physical part of the game.
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rippit

667 Posts

Posted - 02/24/2015 :  21:43:49  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Talking about kids in the stands hon.
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AllStar

762 Posts

Posted - 02/25/2015 :  08:05:40  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by rippit

Talking about kids in the stands hon.



So was I, but if anyone thinks there isn't taunting going on between dugouts in HS, I've got a bridge in Brooklyn for sale....

Second round playoff game last year, about half the seniors from the two teams had played travel together. It was brutal. Like siblings brawling.
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