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bigdog
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 Posted - 07/25/2008 : 16:30:34
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Long story short Team Miami (Hammocks All Stars) DQ'd from further participation in quest for Little League World Series.
http://www.eteamz.com/TeamMiami/
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coachdan06
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Posted - 07/25/2008 : 18:52:50
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Originally posted by bigdog
Long story short Team Miami (Hammocks All Stars) DQ'd from further participation in quest for Little League World Series.
http://www.eteamz.com/TeamMiami/
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Yes they admittedly broke some underlying rules about little league play guidelines.
However "obscure" their coach wishes to see it , a rule is a rule.
Enough of them are broken already after grown men take charge of a boys game - leagues - "all stars" , on and on .
HURRAH for little league ending that team's corruption
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greglomax
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Posted - 07/25/2008 : 19:48:20
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I can't say that I am surprised. I had heard rumblings about the league allowing them to NOT follow little league rules during the season and I was curious how that was going to work out.
I guess they should have spread their players out over several league teams instead of trying to have them all play for the same team. (I am sure that ran up a red flag).
I am a little disappointed that we did not get to see them against other little league teams in the regionals. It would have been interesting to see how the other teams stacked up against them. It would have been as close as we have come to, to be able to compare the little league teams to major travel ball.
Oh well, some paths are just not destined to cross.
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12uCoach
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Posted - 07/25/2008 : 20:14:16
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With apolgies to Claude Rains (Captain Renault in Casablanca)
"I'm shocked, shocked to find that there is cheating going on in youth baseball!"  |
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25LOVESTHEGAME
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Posted - 07/25/2008 : 20:59:05
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| So did they play some games? I played Little League up in Pennsylvania many many years ago. I remember having to go through districts, regionals, state etc. Did they play in the preliminary tournaments? How did they do? |
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scotsar
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Posted - 07/25/2008 : 21:52:54
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quote:
Originally posted by coachdan06
quote:
Originally posted by bigdog
Long story short Team Miami (Hammocks All Stars) DQ'd from further participation in quest for Little League World Series.
http://www.eteamz.com/TeamMiami/
Opinions?
Yes they admittedly broke some underlying rules about little league play guidelines.
However "obscure" their coach wishes to see it , a rule is a rule.
Enough of them are broken already after grown men take charge of a boys game - leagues - "all stars" , on and on .
HURRAH for little league ending that team's corruption
just my opinion
cool down Dan-O and read the article again.
they were allowed to do this openly then compete part way through the LL playoffs.
theirs a legal term I have no idea what it is but addresses something like this.
pretty much : if youre allowed to start youre allowed to finish.
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rjrousseau1
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Posted - 07/26/2008 : 09:43:51
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| So what kind of scores were they winning by in their rec league season if they were destroying LL allstar teams by 18-25 runs in districts and sectionals and finished 2nd in Cooperstown? I am sure the 12 yr old kids on those other rec teams had a lot of fun whenever they ran into this team... but I guess that doesn't matter to this coach who was wronged by a bunch of adults. |
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jska
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Posted - 07/28/2008 : 09:01:43
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While it doesn't appear that Team Miami was disqualified for being over age limits, as a coach that took a team to Cooperstown the same week that Team Miami was there, I can tell you that I have very strong suspicions that many of their kids were not 12. I realize that kids mature differently at this age, however, many of their kids had the mature faces of men not boys. Although I'm sure that they had to show birth certificates to play as 12U at Cooperstown, many of their kids were born in other countries making the authenticity of their birth certificates questionable.
It appears that they were disqualified for forming their team prior to a mandated June 15 date. I can attest to this as they were in Cooperstown as a team, June 7-13. |
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sandlot
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Posted - 07/28/2008 : 10:52:43
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Quote took from the "Miami Herald".....There are also some other articles there as well, interesting stuff!
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What a shameful thing to happen to the Hammocks Baseball League. That team was from the very beginning trouble. It was called Team Miami and they played at Tropical park under another name and came to Hammocks to play and qualify for the Little League World Series Championship. Most of those kids were not even from the area of the Hammocks and were even over aged. This is a shameful sin that was allowed by Mr. Al Engle the hammocks president and his staff mainly the assistant Mr. Sotolongo which has a big mouth in telling everyone that hammocks was going to take it all. Yes he was right they took it all and then some and to top it off they also embarrased the community. I wish that both of these two idiots would resign and get out of the little league basell in hammocks. When this team came last season to play at hammocks we all new about the illegal kids they have but we were warn to be quiet and that all these kids were legal and they were playing under the right rules, by Mr. Angle and by Mr. Sotolongo. This is the truth. Yes your time came to be exposed the two off you especially Mr. Sotolongo which is a down low dirty and corrupted man in the dade county and at his job. How can the county allow this type of behaivor and this type of person to manage and be involved in such activities as he is. I am very glad they got exposed but am sad that the Kendall Hamocks Baseball had to suffer such an ambarrasement from these two idiots.
Posted by: L84RADATE
7/26/2008 9:52 AM
51695.4 Report as Violation
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SportsDad
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Posted - 07/28/2008 : 11:15:25
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| When we were at Cooperstown we lost in the semi-finals to a team called the Northwest Shockers out of Seattle..They had 5-6 kids from the Dominacan Repuplic that look 15-16 years old..None had birth certificates, some had mustaches and side burns..I was talking to an pediatric otheopedic surgeon during the championship game and mentioned to him..."no way those kids are 12U" He told me ,he was from Cincinatti, that he thought they probably were. He said in Cincinatti they had found lately a lot of kids coming from the central america and the islands that were at private schools, winning championships, on HGH and other growth hormones. He explained that because there are privates schools that are out to win championships and give kids an US education a lot of kids from poverty stricken countries are juiced. He said and I AGREE that if you were from Domican Republic, the whole future for your son revolve around living in a shack and working in a sugar field or he showed some promise at 8 to play a sport, what would you do..You know I'd juice him so he could "escape" to the US and have some "private school" room and board him and give him a education to...Now, i"m sure you "blame the parents" or blame the schools, or blame the sport/coaches/whatever...when winning by any means. whether paying parents to let their son play for you in a tournament(saw it,recruiting kids who never played for you in the season to win championships (that happens all the time, coaches have there excuses "reasons") or kids coming from foriegn countries to get a head and win championships...sounds to me that Team Miami got disquailified for not breaking the letter of the rules but rather by breaking the spirit of the rules...wonder how many USSSA,AAU,NABA or any of the other alphebet world series out there would have the same problems if they had similar rules...Always love the rule ( and I thinks it's nonsence) Oh he was "released" by his other team so we picked him up to play this tournament, you don't want to "not give that kid a chance." blah blah blah...would these coaches care less about giving him a chance if he wasn't a stud pitchers or hitter, but rather just a good kid with average skills...I doubt it... |
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