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ecballer
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 Posted - 03/12/2014 : 09:06:30
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| I wanted to see opinions on kids that start their freshman year as 16 year olds. More or less they have been held back 2 years. What are the pros and cons for doing this. |
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T13
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Posted - 03/12/2014 : 10:02:04
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| hopefully it has to do with a learning disability....at a certain age kids are ineligible to particiapte in HS sports... |
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DecaturDad
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Posted - 03/12/2014 : 10:37:12
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I agree with T13. The advantage in high school is that there are JV and varsity teams. If the 16 year old is good, he will play varsity. Then he is with kids his age. If he is not that good, then I guess the age does not make a difference.
My freshman will not even turn 15 until May. The freshman, JV and varsity teams do a lot of practices together so there is a wide range of ages, skills and even sizes out there. |
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TAZ980002
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Posted - 03/12/2014 : 12:28:17
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| I spoke to a Dad this past Summer whose son was in this situation. He mentioned that the colleges and scouts they had talked to were not too crazy about it. |
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in_the_know
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Posted - 03/12/2014 : 13:59:41
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In Georgia, it really depends on when he turns 16 whether he gets 4 years of eligibility.
GHSA rule states:
"To be eligible to participate in interscholastic activities, a student must not have reached his 19th birthday prior to May 1st, preceding his year of participation."
So a 16 year old freshman may only get 3 years, possibly 2 of participation. He certainly won't get a fourth year unless they were 15 on April 30th of their freshman year. |
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wareagle
324 Posts |
Posted - 03/12/2014 : 16:19:33
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| Maybe I am reading it wrong but I think he would get four years as long as he did not turn 16 before may of his eighth grade year. |
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ecballer
22 Posts |
Posted - 03/12/2014 : 18:46:58
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War Eagle you are correct, he would get 4 years after May 1.
The reason I ask this question, is because there are some very prominent kids ranked very high on Perfect game that are in this situation. Is this the wave of the future?
It would seem like college scouts would like this because it gives them a more mature athlete.
Though, it would also seem like mlb scouts would be against it because it makes the athlete older and behind the 8 ball when it comes to minor leagues. |
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whits23
596 Posts |
Posted - 03/14/2014 : 20:35:19
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It can make you a stud HS player and desirable in WWBA as a grad class player but but as far as mlb and most colleges they are comparing you coming out of HS to a sophomore in college not a high school SR
. MLB always wants you as soon as they can get you as every year your in college or in this case high school is a year you could be learning their system. Maybe not best for you always but its a good move for the Team to get you early. It is much more common in Football in the south than baseball. It is also hard to be a student and be 2 years older than all your buddies. |
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Card6
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Posted - 03/16/2014 : 12:09:31
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Originally posted by wareagle
Maybe I am reading it wrong but I think he would get four years as long as he did not turn 16 before may of his eighth grade year.
You are correct. We current had a team protest an 8th grader who tuned 15 in Jan. The rule read "can't turn 15 by May 1 of preceding year". Ruled he is eligible. Same would apply to 16 yr old Freshman. We were not so lucky. Mine was 15 in the 11 grade. LOL Guess we will have to settle for a Doctor. |
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tbaillie2
120 Posts |
Posted - 03/16/2014 : 16:10:52
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| It most likely means the parents have lost touch w/ reality. A kid held back 2 years has issues that need to be dealt with outside of sports and needs to focus on schoolwork. If it was done for athletic reasons it just means your kid isn't that good...there may be some other legit reason out there, but whatever it is would be a stretch and in the complete minority. |
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DecaturDad
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Posted - 03/17/2014 : 07:39:08
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Originally posted by tbaillie2
It most likely means the parents have lost touch w/ reality. A kid held back 2 years has issues that need to be dealt with outside of sports and needs to focus on schoolwork. If it was done for athletic reasons it just means your kid isn't that good...there may be some other legit reason out there, but whatever it is would be a stretch and in the complete minority.
A fair number of freshman are 15, so he is really just one year older. Not knowing who this is, it is possible he was held back in kindergarten for some reason. Maybe now he is a straight A student? Sorry, but it bugs me when people assume they know why parents do things for their kids. I know some people would think we have all lost touch if they knew how much we spent on this game :-)
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tbaillie2
120 Posts |
Posted - 03/18/2014 : 14:45:38
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Originally posted by DecaturDad
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Originally posted by tbaillie2
It most likely means the parents have lost touch w/ reality. A kid held back 2 years has issues that need to be dealt with outside of sports and needs to focus on schoolwork. If it was done for athletic reasons it just means your kid isn't that good...there may be some other legit reason out there, but whatever it is would be a stretch and in the complete minority.
A fair number of freshman are 15, so he is really just one year older. Not knowing who this is, it is possible he was held back in kindergarten for some reason. Maybe now he is a straight A student? Sorry, but it bugs me when people assume they know why parents do things for their kids. I know some people would think we have all lost touch if they knew how much we spent on this game :-)
I said there may be a legit reason of some kind.... |
Edited by - tbaillie2 on 03/18/2014 14:55:31 |
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DecaturDad
619 Posts |
Posted - 03/19/2014 : 09:23:18
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Originally posted by tbaillie2
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Originally posted by DecaturDad
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Originally posted by tbaillie2
It most likely means the parents have lost touch w/ reality. A kid held back 2 years has issues that need to be dealt with outside of sports and needs to focus on schoolwork. If it was done for athletic reasons it just means your kid isn't that good...there may be some other legit reason out there, but whatever it is would be a stretch and in the complete minority.
A fair number of freshman are 15, so he is really just one year older. Not knowing who this is, it is possible he was held back in kindergarten for some reason. Maybe now he is a straight A student? Sorry, but it bugs me when people assume they know why parents do things for their kids. I know some people would think we have all lost touch if they knew how much we spent on this game :-)
I said there may be a legit reason of some kind....
Yes. You did. (I missed that.) |
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knapper1
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Posted - 03/21/2014 : 12:32:12
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| There have been many articles out there on this. Search for Redshirting Kindergarten and you can read all about. Obviously there are certain situations for some kids. My son's birthday is end of August and our kindergarten school wanted us to hold our kid back but he was a smart kid and we did not. Our neighbor same age was held back and he was very immature so I can see that. But I see many doing it for sports.. We had parents complaining the school curriculum was not challenging her kids and those kids had june birthdays and they were held back. |
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gtown71
86 Posts |
Posted - 03/25/2014 : 13:12:50
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| i have a 14 year old that won't turn 15 until late july that plays jv. I know people that pulled their kids out of public school after 8th grade just to repeat it in a private school. then they enrolled them back in public to start the 9th grade year. I'd love for mine to be in the 8th grade but I chose to enroll him early based upon his academic level. you see this happen everyday for sports reasons only. |
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DecaturDad
619 Posts |
Posted - 03/25/2014 : 15:05:35
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Originally posted by gtown71
i have a 14 year old that won't turn 15 until late july that plays jv. I know people that pulled their kids out of public school after 8th grade just to repeat it in a private school. then they enrolled them back in public to start the 9th grade year. I'd love for mine to be in the 8th grade but I chose to enroll him early based upon his academic level. you see this happen everyday for sports reasons only.
I also have a 14 year old in 9th grade. I really could not see him playing MS ball. |
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