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stepoff
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 Posted - 11/15/2013 : 15:15:45
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| What reasons past the fact that a team did not play up to the expectation's of the parents and the player - does one leave a team after the fall campaign? What does that say about the priorities and about the level of winning we expect out of our kids these days? Is it about development or about results in the fall? What line is there that trumps commitment to a team over individual goals? |
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bbmom2
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Posted - 11/15/2013 : 16:23:42
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| What age level are you talking about?? |
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baseballready
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Posted - 11/15/2013 : 16:31:19
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| How about the coach/manager honoring whatever commitments they may have made to the player/family? Pretty sure this topic has been covered ad nauseum over the past several years. Two way street. |
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Shut Out
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Posted - 11/15/2013 : 17:22:30
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| All depends on what the commitment was to begin with. Maybe it was fall commitment only - that does happen. Maybe the coach did not live up to his side of the commitment. Who know's but I will say with 100% conviction if a kid does not want to be part of a team it is better that he no longer be there. Negativity is contagious so you are better with out him no matter the kids skill level. |
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jtm2002
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Posted - 11/17/2013 : 09:15:57
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Baseballready, Shut Out,
In our case, you are spot on. We just left this past week, and there was 2 key data points that made the decision, and several other data points that spoke to "this is not what we were told".
All of this was initiated by my 11 year old son approaching us about his concerns with the team.
His comments were: " I don't want to be the best one on the team, I wont learn as much" and " I want to be on a higher level team. This team does not play to the level I am at."
We saw this very early on, but said nothing. I think many do not give enough credit to 11 year olds intelligence level, they see more than we give credit.
Couple the lower level of play than sold with multiple data points of other issues that could plague the rest of the season with frustration, and the decision was made.
Other data points included comments from coaches not wanting him to switch hit (stay with the dominant side, no need to develop the other), and him being told he can not play the position he is most interested in. (even though errors continue to accumulate at that position).
When calling the head coach, he was very cordial, and spoke as if he knew and agreed with the issues.
Once he let the others know we were leaving is when I knew we made the correct decision. I had coaches questioning the integrity of the family, one resending the original team commitment from back in May with a flippant comment attached, and a third commenting on the phone "this all comes back around sooner or later". All this after repeatedly being told multiple times how great our son is off the field.
What's been amazing to us through this process is the people that think they are some sort of victim of a plan, and the lashing out... You are spot on, teams need to turn the analysis inward. Maybe they can improve their team for the boys and the rest of the season.
A coach should be doing this for the boys, NOT THEMSELVES. |
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Flan21
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Posted - 11/18/2013 : 09:29:01
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| You are 100% right. A lot of coaches coach with blinders on because of what parents might say if they change a kids position. What we all have to realize is that we are coaching for the kids and the team and not for the parents that have invested$1500 for there child to play on your team. Just remember this when you look for your sons next team. You want coaches that are going to play talent and skill and not worry about what parents are saying or if they are going to keave the team. |
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5fingerdiscount
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Posted - 11/19/2013 : 10:02:03
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stepoff/jmo but teams not performing to the expectations of the parents and players could change ones decision to stay with a team, especially when starting out with a new team. Thats why fall baseball should be a tryout period for new parents and players. You may realize your child is a major level player on a aa team or you could lose 3 games a weekend in run rule shortened games where your child gets fewer opportunities than he would get elsewhere playing competitive baseball.On the other hand your child could be sitting on the bench too much and get left out of the batting order during bracket play. All would be valid reasons to leave a team imo...
In the end some kids are used parts of something bigger than themselves if they are not part of a close knit core group of players. Travel baseball is competitive and coaches will get rid of the non-core parts that dont work.
jmo...If your kid doesnt fit cut your losses with the Fall team and move on. |
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