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DecaturDad
619 Posts |
Posted - 01/06/2012 : 14:45:34
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I was just rereading these rules. It states that wood bats must be manufactured by an approved USSSA licensee. First off, what difference does that make with wood, and second, how can you tell? Do we need to carry around the list of approved manufacturers? I found a great little shop that will custom make a wood bat. They meet all of the MLB regulations, but they are not an "approved licensee". I guess the bat just became a batting cage bat...
Effective January 1, 2012 „h Have the new USSSA Mark on its taper OR „h Be a Qualified BBCOR bat1 OR „h Be a Wood Bat ALL of the above must be manufactured by an approved USSSA Bat Licensee |
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in_the_know
985 Posts |
Posted - 01/06/2012 : 16:31:32
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In an environment when you can't even get a TD to drag a field, I wouldn't be the least bit concerned about a wood bat being deemed as unacceptable because it's not from a licensee. Since there are no requirements for USSSA markings on wood bats, I'm sure that no one will know who is or isn't an licensee. Bubba's the State Director and I'd be willing to bet that he can't tell you who is or isn't without looking it up and printing out a list. |
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DecaturDad
619 Posts |
Posted - 01/06/2012 : 20:23:05
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I agree, but what happens when you play that one team that will do anything to win, and they call you on it?
By the way, anyone know what happens when someone is caught using a non stamped bat? |
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Peanutsr
171 Posts |
Posted - 01/06/2012 : 21:43:30
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Once again the simple solution is to not play any Utrip events, problem solved. |
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in_the_know
985 Posts |
Posted - 01/07/2012 : 13:51:13
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According to their rules, sounds like the bat is just removed from play without penalty. Great rule with NO TEETH:
8.01.E The official bat shall be round in cross section for its entire length, straight from end to end for its entire length and smooth surfaced in the hitting area. The maximum diameter shall not exceed two and three fourths (2 3/4) inches and the maximum length shall not exceed thirty-six (36) inches. The bat shall be constructed of wood, aluminum, or any other material or combination of materials unless such materials or combinations of materials are specifically disapproved by USSSA. Such disapproval shall be the sole discretion of USSSA and may be made without notice. Any material to improve the grip may be used for a distance not to exceed eighteen (18) inches from the handle end. Any such material or substance, which extends past the eighteen (18) inch limitation, shall cause the bat to be removed from the game. Rule 8.01.E Comment: If the umpire discovers that the bat does not conform to USSSA Rule 8.01.E until a time during or after which the bat has been used in play, it shall not be grounds for declaring the batter out, or ejection from the game.
8.01.E.1 All bats for age division 4U – 14U that exceed the 1.15 BPF (Bat Performance Factor) as defined for baseball bats by ASTM Standards, may be disapproved by USSSA. Such disapproval shall be the sole discretion of USSSA and may be made without notice.
8.01.E.2 All bats for scholastic divisions 15U – 18U must conform to the NFHS (National Federation of High School Association) bat limitations including a length to weight ratio no greater than negative three (-3) ounces.
quote: Originally posted by DecaturDad
I agree, but what happens when you play that one team that will do anything to win, and they call you on it?
By the way, anyone know what happens when someone is caught using a non stamped bat?
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bluecup
49 Posts |
Posted - 01/07/2012 : 15:32:08
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I don't believe that's correct (quoted above/no teeth). See section 7.02C Penalty of the 2012 USSSA rules:
http://www.gausssabaseball.com/images/uploads/pdffiles/Rule_Book.pdf
The penalty is either an out or the result of the play (defense's choice). Second offense, the manager is ejected and it's an out/defense choice. |
Edited by - bluecup on 01/07/2012 15:55:03 |
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in_the_know
985 Posts |
Posted - 01/08/2012 : 21:46:47
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So it looks like there are two rule books, one GA USSSA and the other the National USSSA. Different sections and rules related to equipment (section 7 in the GA book and section 8 in the National).
Looks like the GA rule book is more current than what National book posted as it specifically addresses the new bat regs. I'd follow what bluecup posted rather than what they have on the National site. |
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gausssa
209 Posts |
Posted - 01/09/2012 : 16:47:19
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The 2012 Official Rules have now been updated and can be down-load from the Georgia USSSA site...
FYI- Not true on any wood bats..Wood bats "can't be altered" |
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Hurricane
351 Posts |
Posted - 01/11/2012 : 09:57:35
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So any wood bat is legal? Should be even the Baum Wood bats since they use them in the minor leagues. |
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