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Alter-Ego
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 Posted - 10/06/2011 : 16:22:48
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Coaches and Scorekeepers,
As you start to make all your plans for the 2012 season, I wanted to remind everyone of a great scorekeeping option available free for any scorekeeper, Gamechanger. (www.gamechanger.io)
With over 150 games scored through this application, I highly recommend the application for all of your scorekeeping. If just keeping your stats was all it did, it would be a "strong recommendation" because of the vast amount of stats available. The part that makes it a "Must Have" is the ability for fans to see updates, and even play-by-play, from any internet connection. For those parents and family members that cannot be at the game, this is a huge benefit. (Not to mention a benefit to the fans actually at the game who are constantly getting texted to provide updates. :-) )
If you are looking for a better way to keep stats, or a way to provide updates to your fans, take a look at Gamechanger. I think you will be pleasantly surprised. |
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jmjnr
13 Posts |
Posted - 10/06/2011 : 20:25:32
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| Have you found that umpires still require a paper scorebook for the official book even if you have an electronic version? |
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Daddy Rabbit
17 Posts |
Posted - 10/06/2011 : 21:27:21
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| Have you compared it to ISCORE? I see a lot of teams using that app.They seem to like it a lot.I'm kinda on the fence. I've tried both and they both have some good points and bad points. Any suggestions? |
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coachtony
236 Posts |
Posted - 10/06/2011 : 23:05:08
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Originally posted by jmjnr
Have you found that umpires still require a paper scorebook for the official book even if you have an electronic version?
GC even has a scorebook view that will give the older, "pencil and paper" dinosaur umpires exactly what they want to see. We have never had an umpire question any of it. The one time that we had a game that was delayed I was a bit nervous that they may ask about the book but when they realized that we were on the iPad they simply made notes on the game card where they record pitchers, score, etc. No worries, at all.
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Originally posted by Daddy Rabbit
Have you compared it to ISCORE? I see a lot of teams using that app.They seem to like it a lot.I'm kinda on the fence. I've tried both and they both have some good points and bad points. Any suggestions?
I tried them both and went with GC hands down. The amount of real time stats that it presents and the ease in which they are accessed is just amazing.
Probably the biggest difference is the customer support. If you email GC with a question you will get a response right away. In the beginning I emailed them a lot and I averaged about 30 minutes between the time I asked the question and the time I got a response. During office hours, it was more like 5 minutes. When I tried to get help from iScore, I never even got a reply.
A word of caution to anyone that tries out GC.....if you load it on an iPhone or a iTouch and use it for just a couple of weeks you will find yourself uncontrollably at Best Buy wondering if you have enough available credit on your Visa for an iPad. :)
--T
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Alter-Ego
802 Posts |
Posted - 10/07/2011 : 10:24:13
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We have never had anyone question it not being kept as a paper copy. Most think it is pretty neat that we are keeping it that way.
We did look at iScore when we first started investigating an electronic option. iScore does do a lot of good stuff, however, we liked the ease of use and the extensive stats Gamechanger provided. Particularly the format it provides it in.
The great thing is, the application is free to download and use. You can link a Gamechanger scoreboard banner to your team website, which will show scores of the current game and the past few games. Your fans can create free logins and get text updates every half inning or they can pay $10 for the season (or the team can pay $150 for the season and open it up to all your fans) and get pitch by pitch details and access to all the stats, using any internet browser. |
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wareagle
324 Posts |
Posted - 10/07/2011 : 11:29:08
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| Does it not bother you that anyone can look at your stats. I follow several teams that I know parents or kids that are on those teams. Doesn't seem to present any problems at younger ages, but as they get older would the coaches not have a problem with other teams seeing all thier stats for free? |
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CharlieHustle
11 Posts |
Posted - 10/07/2011 : 12:39:55
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| I would like to go electronic. However, the first game I tried to score on an ipod touch 4 with iscore, I could not see the screen well enough in the sunshine. How do you deal with this ? Is the ipad screen easier to view in the sun ? |
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jongamefan
218 Posts |
Posted - 10/07/2011 : 13:06:42
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Originally posted by CharlieHustle
I would like to go electronic. However, the first game I tried to score on an ipod touch 4 with iscore, I could not see the screen well enough in the sunshine. How do you deal with this ? Is the ipad screen easier to view in the sun ?
PETE: an umbrella is tons easier and cheaper than a new elctronic device  |
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22202
263 Posts |
Posted - 10/07/2011 : 14:16:45
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Originally posted by jmjnr
Have you found that umpires still require a paper scorebook for the official book even if you have an electronic version?
It seems just like everything else, paper is being replaced by electronics. Last summer at a tournament I was scoring our game using gc and there was a question about the books from the ump, and he used the gc stats to correct the count because the gc program was more descriptive of what happened with the "at bat" in question than the person with the pen and paper.
As far as gc vs. iscore I have found gc to be much easier and user friendly. And the customer service is some of the best I have dealt with. |
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in_the_know
985 Posts |
Posted - 10/07/2011 : 16:38:38
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You can set security so that no one can see the stats, or only people you grant "fan" access to. You can also grant granular access to only a specific player's stats so that a parent or player may only see his own stats.
So basically, it's a non-issue. By default, eveyone can see the stats, but you're only one radio-button click from locking them down.
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Originally posted by wareagle
Does it not bother you that anyone can look at your stats. I follow several teams that I know parents or kids that are on those teams. Doesn't seem to present any problems at younger ages, but as they get older would the coaches not have a problem with other teams seeing all thier stats for free?
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beanball
222 Posts |
Posted - 10/08/2011 : 06:53:28
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I have migrated from Turbo Stats to iscore and gamechanger in the past two years. Gamechanger is by far the most intutitive and easiest to use. The only confusing part is making substitutions and getting the lineups set.
The only other issue I've had is not the program but the divice. Several times my ipad overheated and shut down because I could not find any shade near the field.
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ramman999
241 Posts |
Posted - 10/08/2011 : 09:27:48
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I think after the fall we are going to convert over - we use old pen and paper, then hand key everything in and upload to our website. Two many steps, and I love the fact our out of town fans can "watch" a game as it happens - great for out of town families and friends.
Anyone know if GC data is uploadable to Hometeam sites? |
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ECBdad
21 Posts |
Posted - 10/11/2011 : 13:23:43
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I have used I-Score extensively and find it very easy to use and comprehensive. You can broadcast your games on the net just like GC and anyone that wants to view does not have to pay the $10 fee. It seems to have every stat that you might ever want. It cost only $9.99 and that is a one time fee. To get a comparable gc, you would get the app free but pay $10 per viewer.
As far as the concerns of viewing electronic screens in the sunlight, be sure and check any "theme" settings on your device, they often change the colors of the application. |
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dad4kids
109 Posts |
Posted - 10/17/2011 : 11:48:04
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| Anyone had the problem with Gamechanger that it freezes or locks after scoring a defensive play and will not allow you to proceed by hitting "DONE"? This has happened to be a half dozen times, usually with a ground ball out. I have to either manually score the out (with no description) or put in an alternative (like flyout) that it will recognize for some reason. |
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CoachMark
216 Posts |
Posted - 10/25/2011 : 12:08:32
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I have used both iScore and GC. At the moment, I prefer iScore for one major reason . . . I make mistakes during the game and iScore allows you to make changes retroactively. I don't mean scoring mistakes, I mean mistakes like lineup issues or missing pitching changes that can really affect stats, which is most of the point of keeping score to begin with.
Here are some examples:
1. I create a lineup for the opposing team but I have mistakenly had 11 players batting when I should have only had 10. I don't catch this mistake until the #1 hitter is at the plate and I'm showing #11.
iScore allows me to go to lineup and make that change and immediately shows the correct batter. GC did not allow this the last time I used it (this Summer).
This also goes for having players out of order. I simply drag the correct player to the correct position and iScore moves all of his/her stats accordingly.
2. There is a pitching change but I forgot to record it until a few batters have already batted. In iScore, I can go back to the time the position changes should have been and make it. It will then record all the pitches (balls, strikes, hits, whatever) to the correct pitcher.
In GC, I can either hit UNDO until I got back to the time the change was made and re-record all pitches (hard to remember), or I can edit the box score after the game (hard to calculate # of pitches).
I agree that with GC, keeping score is easier so perhaps I won't make as many mistakes, but the issues I site above aren't ones that a better UI will fix.
I also agree that GC has a much better website, a really cool scoreboard, and better business model and it likely will be the long-term winner. Perhaps GC has a newer version that allows for retroactive game edits or maybe I just couldn't figure it out. But for now, I prefer iScore though because I want stats to be calculate correctly above all else and iScore is the better app for that. |
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dad4kids
109 Posts |
Posted - 10/27/2011 : 09:27:04
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| No retroactive edits I'm aware of on GC. I've had to rescore several games from scratch for some of the reasons you've mentioned. Real pain in the #$@ |
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sailor
18 Posts |
Posted - 12/09/2012 : 09:20:05
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Originally posted by ramman999
I think after the fall we are going to convert over - we use old pen and paper, then hand key everything in and upload to our website. Two many steps, and I love the fact our out of town fans can "watch" a game as it happens - great for out of town families and friends.
Anyone know if GC data is uploadable to Hometeam sites?
This is an old thread, but the question wasn't answered. You can post Gamechanger results on a hometeamsonline site by linking to it. A Gamechanger scoreboard will display on the hometeamsonline site. Clicking on the scoreboard takes you to the Gamechanger site where the detailed stats are.
To do this, the Gamechanger admin should go to the 'Community' tab on the team's Gamechanger site. Just below the tabs across the top, look for the 'sharing' link. Use the 'Add a scoreboard to your website' link. Hitting the button will generate the HTML you need to display the scorboard on the Hometeamsonline site. The admin for the Hometeamsonline site can use the edit features to embed this HTML wherever you want the scoreboard to appear on the site. Hope this helps! |
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