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TAZ980002

831 Posts

Posted - 09/24/2010 :  07:41:05  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Here's a question that might be interesting for some of you to talk about:

Which has the greater potential of causing your kid harm - throwing a curve ball or playing youth football?

Interested to hear your thoughts and experiences.

bmoser

1633 Posts

Posted - 09/24/2010 :  10:52:30  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I can't answer that specific of a question, but I can come close. The Government tracks the causes of hospital emergency room visits. Last time I looked, youth Football had 3X the visits as youth Baseball.

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Originally posted by Bandit_Hawk

Here's a question that might be interesting for some of you to talk about:

Which has the greater potential of causing your kid harm - throwing a curve ball or playing youth football?

Interested to hear your thoughts and experiences.

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touchemall

145 Posts

Posted - 09/24/2010 :  11:34:06  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Teach them both the correct way and there should not be an issue. Any sport is dangerous to some degree and injuries happen. I just am from the camp you don't teach a curve ball until a kid is atleast 13 and then only use it every once in awhile.
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Scott0923

49 Posts

Posted - 09/24/2010 :  11:37:24  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
football...no brainer
it's the sport with the highest risk of injury per play
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Scott0923

49 Posts

Posted - 09/24/2010 :  11:39:35  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
but you can choose or coach your kids not to throw a curve till appropriate age. if u choose not to hit in football ull get hurt sometimes getting hit injures you...
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G-Man

326 Posts

Posted - 09/24/2010 :  15:19:41  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
This might surprise you but do you know what sport that has more injuries than football? Its Cheerleading. I was just as surprised as you might be right now but saw a 20/20 documentary about 6 months ago that said cheerleading has more injuries than any other sport in america.

Now to answer the question. One can cause injury from day one. The other is insidious and causes injury over time. I will let you choose which is which.


quote:
Originally posted by bmoser

I can't answer that specific of a question, but I can come close. The Government tracks the causes of hospital emergency room visits. Last time I looked, youth Football had 3X the visits as youth Baseball.

quote:
Originally posted by Bandit_Hawk

Here's a question that might be interesting for some of you to talk about:

Which has the greater potential of causing your kid harm - throwing a curve ball or playing youth football?

Interested to hear your thoughts and experiences.



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DecaturDad

619 Posts

Posted - 09/24/2010 :  17:29:32  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
That is why my son plays ice hockey in the fall.
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Spartan4

913 Posts

Posted - 09/24/2010 :  21:27:06  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Never thought I would ever see Ice hockey used as the "safe alternative" lol.....Every Thrashers game I have ever been to somebody has gotten KNOCKED OUT!!!
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highcheese

71 Posts

Posted - 09/25/2010 :  11:51:18  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
The stands are brutual down there.
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excoach12

159 Posts

Posted - 09/25/2010 :  13:25:03  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Cheerleading is not a sport.
It DOES take some athletic talent, to a degree, from SOME of the members of the squad but overall, it is not a sport.
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cop311

44 Posts

Posted - 09/25/2010 :  15:52:46  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Here's the definition of sport-
1.
an athletic activity requiring skill or physical prowess and often of a competitive nature, as racing, baseball, tennis, golf, bowling, wrestling, boxing, hunting, fishing, etc.
I would put my daughters competing squad against any baseball
team my son has played ( he's 12 she's 10) and they would destroy them in terms of physical prowess. Pushups, sit ups, running, etc. My daughter can do upside down pushups and has beaten all the boys in her grade at arm wrestling. She has broken her wrist and a growth plate in her finger. So yes they don't use a ball but her team ( 3 national championships running) fits the technical definition of sport.
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Alter-Ego

802 Posts

Posted - 09/26/2010 :  00:55:30  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I am with cop311. Competitive cheerleading is much more greuling sport than most others. As long as activities like golf and auto racing are discussed as sports, so should cheerleading.
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itsaboutbb

164 Posts

Posted - 09/26/2010 :  11:10:58  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Bandit_Hawk

Here's a question that might be interesting for some of you to talk about:

Which has the greater potential of causing your kid harm - throwing a curve ball or playing youth football?

Interested to hear your thoughts and experiences.



This got off tract a little...I would think the curve ball is harder on the arm then throwing a football.
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a1prog

164 Posts

Posted - 09/26/2010 :  23:20:24  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
i have never heard of a kid who has fractured a growth plate from throwing a football. has anyone else? if not- then there is the answer.

Edited by - a1prog on 09/27/2010 08:38:14
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LeftyBat

160 Posts

Posted - 09/26/2010 :  23:32:00  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by itsaboutbb

quote:
Originally posted by Bandit_Hawk

Here's a question that might be interesting for some of you to talk about:

Which has the greater potential of causing your kid harm - throwing a curve ball or playing youth football?

Interested to hear your thoughts and experiences.



This got off tract a little...I would think the curve ball is harder on the arm then throwing a football.



I think you are right. Thowing a football is much less hard on the arm than throwing a curve ball. But its the other parts of the game where people run into each other at full speed with the intent of delivering the biggest impact possible that makes football just maybe just a little bit worse for the body than throwing a curve ball.
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TAZ980002

831 Posts

Posted - 09/27/2010 :  09:24:42  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
The discussion wasn't intended to be about "throwing a football" vs "throwing a curveball". It was supposed to be about "throwing a curveball vs playing football".

The thought crossed my mind as I watched two of my son's baseball friends suffer broken bones and separated joints playing football this season. I also saw a news story about the damage being done to these young football players brains as they repeatedly bang heads. In particular, one study showed that it may lead to depression and suicide later in life.
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gafan

66 Posts

Posted - 09/27/2010 :  10:05:58  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
All true... but football is still just awesome... no?
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Alter-Ego

802 Posts

Posted - 09/27/2010 :  10:14:27  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Yes, the original question was not about throwing a football, it was about playing youth football vs throwing a curveball.

Up through 12, I am not sure football is harder on a kid that teaching him to throw a curveball. The number of football players at the lower ages that really know how to "Bring the wood" are far less than once you get to feeder football and HS.

Not to mention most kids 12u and below don't understand pitching mechanics enough to consistently do it properly to avoid undue stress. (There are always the exception, but this is typically the rule.)
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TAZ980002

831 Posts

Posted - 09/27/2010 :  10:44:36  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by gafan

All true... but football is still just awesome... no?



It is awesome. I love to watch it. However, I won't let my kids play just yet. I am fortunate to know a handful of NFL players and they all recommend not playing before high school.
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643dad

38 Posts

Posted - 09/27/2010 :  11:42:24  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Bryant Gumbel just had a segment on how many sports are being linked to MS, due to brain concussions are causing brain fluid to leak into the spinal cord. Kids who play soccer & girls Lagrosse are really suffering. Love football but glad that my sons rather play baseball. Just not worth the immendiate hazards & especially the long tern "unknown."
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C. MORTON

1051 Posts

Posted - 09/27/2010 :  11:57:47  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Bandit_Hawk

quote:
Originally posted by gafan

All true... but football is still just awesome... no?



It is awesome. I love to watch it. However, I won't let my kids play just yet. I am fortunate to know a handful of NFL players and they all recommend not playing before high school.

LOL let them step onto a good football programs field and see how FAR behing the curve they are..Coaches these days don't have time to teach players how to play and the fundamentals of the game.Thats why tackeling is so POOR these days.. You wouldn't send you son out for baseball in high school if he never played before would you lol..Heck he may get to high school and get ROCKED by one of those kids that have been playing all their lives and say this ain't for me daddy lol..
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LeftyBat

160 Posts

Posted - 09/27/2010 :  12:29:08  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by gafan

All true... but football is still just awesome... no?



yes it is, but I am so happy my son decided that it's best to let other kids be awesome at it...
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C. MORTON

1051 Posts

Posted - 09/27/2010 :  13:24:03  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
One thing I can say not all baseball players can play football but most football players can play baseball...
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bballman

1432 Posts

Posted - 09/27/2010 :  16:29:48  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by C. MORTON

One thing I can say not all baseball players can play football but most football players can play baseball...



So what you are say is not all baseball players can play football but not all football players can play baseball.

Come on C.

I guarantee you can take any football player and put him up against the #1 or #2 starter on any HS team and a strike out will be the result. Baseball is not any where near as easy as it looks from the bleachers.
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Hitman

33 Posts

Posted - 09/27/2010 :  17:20:10  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
IMO all youth baseball players should play at least one year of youth football. I think it adds a level of toughness that transcends all sports.
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10 BB

264 Posts

Posted - 09/27/2010 :  19:16:54  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
My boy has never played football and there is no way that one year of it could make him any tougher, mentally or physically. He's in the 6th grade and has strength and agility training with the HS baseball team by choice. This training has and will make several of the boys puke every time. Football is a great sport to watch but to many injuries can occur for me to allow him to play. If your measuring physical toughness based on injury then I guess he will never be tough in the eyes of the pro-footballers!

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