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25ismyson

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Posted - 08/12/2010 :  16:12:24  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
At what age group do you see most kids dropping out of baseball because they physically struggle to keep up? I would guess its in the 12-13U group when they move to the regulation 60-90 field deminisions? Would that be correct?

bballman

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Posted - 08/12/2010 :  16:35:43  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I would say then and when they reach HS and fail to make the HS team. At most schools, it gets very competitive. Even if they make the HS team at the not as competitive schools, they will see the disparity of talent and realize they are not as good as the top guys and realize they may never start. Some kids are OK with that and some move on to LaCross or Wrestling or some other sport where they can be more competitive.
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noerrors

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Posted - 08/12/2010 :  16:50:15  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
14U is when it goes 60-90.
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beanball

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Posted - 08/12/2010 :  20:33:00  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
It starts @ 14U and accelerates @ 15U. There is some attirition at 13U however.
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AA17Dad

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Posted - 08/13/2010 :  08:38:18  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I think alot start dropping out around the 12/13 y/o group. The difference in the kids that have gone through puberty and those that have not is pretty drastic. Some of the kids that have not will think thay are not stacking up well againts the bigger, faster, stronger kids that have. The later bloomers will be fine if they hang in there. If you look at most of the top tier teams in the 12 and 13U group you will likely see several kids that could be shaving.
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gasbag

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Posted - 08/13/2010 :  09:02:16  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
12U thru 14U methinks.
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smoke

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Posted - 08/13/2010 :  11:41:02  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
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Originally posted by AA17Dad

I think alot start dropping out around the 12/13 y/o group. The difference in the kids that have gone through puberty and those that have not is pretty drastic. Some of the kids that have not will think thay are not stacking up well againts the bigger, faster, stronger kids that have. The later bloomers will be fine if they hang in there. If you look at most of the top tier teams in the 12 and 13U group you will likely see several kids that could be shaving.


AMEN BROTHER!!! OUR TIME WILL COME SOON, HANG IN THERE 17!!!
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bmoser

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Posted - 08/13/2010 :  11:51:29  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
At our local park, (North Gwinnett) we typically have the most kids in T-Ball (4-6 year old's), then the number of Rec players begins to drop off every year thereafter. The drop off stays fairly steady from 7-12, but then the decline deepens from 12 to 13 and 13 to 14. The number of travel ball teams remains steady from 9U - 14U. I noticed this coming Spring we will have more travel teams than ever before with 13 teams total from 9U-14U. Baseball has fared quite well given Football is King at North Gwinnett.
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Nitro56

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Posted - 08/17/2010 :  13:22:50  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
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Originally posted by bmoser

At our local park, (North Gwinnett) we typically have the most kids in T-Ball (4-6 year old's), then the number of Rec players begins to drop off every year thereafter. The drop off stays fairly steady from 7-12, but then the decline deepens from 12 to 13 and 13 to 14. The number of travel ball teams remains steady from 9U - 14U. I noticed this coming Spring we will have more travel teams than ever before with 13 teams total from 9U-14U. Baseball has fared quite well given Football is King at North Gwinnett.



I don't think having more travel teams is necessarily a good thing. It will end up being glorified rec ball in the 13U age group particularly given the lack of quality coaching. I'm not saying there aren't any good coaches at NG at all, but at a certain level you need to hand your son off to somebody who can help him make it to the high school level.

Also, there is a big difference between a true travel team and a team who just plays a GGBL schedule.

Edited by - Nitro56 on 08/17/2010 17:32:43
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loveforthegame25

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Posted - 08/17/2010 :  18:59:01  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
mine after the 14u season
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Steel-Will

278 Posts

Posted - 08/18/2010 :  12:55:59  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I concur with you Nitro56. If we were honest, we'd admit in all too many cases were paying travel ball prices and getting rec ball competition! I can’t believe how many 9yr old teams there are in Cumming, GA for example. Truth be told, most of them have 1 or 2, maybe 3 players that are competitive enough to be playing travel ball. USSSA loves it and it was a brilliant financial move to offer Gold, Silver, and Bronze brackets all of them giving 1st place trophies and points as these teams would not have a chance to place in a real competitive environment.

A lot of these teams shouldn’t be calling themselves MAJOR teams.
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coachdoug

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Posted - 08/18/2010 :  14:13:24  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Doesn't this just highlight the need for a more developed A/AA class in and around Metro Atlanta? What's being done to develop more A/AA leagues/tournaments? Should 2011 tournament organizers place additional emphasis at that level? (Assuming those forming new teams would actually place themselves into that class.)

I think there's plenty of demand for ball above rec ball and below AAA/Major as a way to place kids in more competitive situations, more games with the same teammates and coaches, etc.

What if a traditional rec park/program evolved into a travel ball park focused on those levels exclusively?

Doug
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