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bmoser
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 Posted - 11/16/2009 : 20:18:05
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Begins the day after Thanksgiving at Disney. Anyone going? They have Majors and Open class, 2 separate tourneys.
Southern Sluggers are the only Georgia team going thus far (Open class). I'd like to see Team GA, and Chain Dirt Dawgs take a crack at the Open class.
3 of the top 4 South Florida Major teams are in it. #1 West Pine Cobras, #3 Team Combat, #4 MBA Pride. Missing so far are the #2 PLO Bulldogs, and the Bay Bombers (not rated as a S FLA team).
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Shut Out
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Posted - 11/17/2009 : 09:14:06
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| Thanksgiving was made for Football; anything else almost seems a little sac-religious |
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bmoser
1633 Posts |
Posted - 11/19/2009 : 06:52:05
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This is one tough group of teams. 10BB, any predictions? How many of these have you seen?
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10 BB
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Posted - 11/19/2009 : 09:43:54
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This is going to be a great tournament for a couple of reasons. First of coarse are the teams. There's some of the top teams in Fl so you will be able to see who's on top in the State ( other than the Bombers, until someone knocks them off ). As you know MBA will be tough to beat, they just have some heavy hitters that will go yard. I wouldn't want you to think thats all they have because they are the total package. This team has great defense along with some strong pitching.
I've seen Pembroke Lake Bulldogs and I think they look alot like the Bandits. Very well coached by Alex Fernandez ( EX- Florida Marlins Pitcher ). This team will put the ball in play, they know how to hit. Very strong defense and some great pitching, two big stud pitchers.
Team Combat had to go to a tie breaker in extra innings last weekend with MBA so they will be strong also. I saw them at Disney this year but I know they've picked up players for the new year.
USA Boltz are very good and have beat MBA two times but MBA has got their number now and I don't look for them to beat out MBA. They have a great SS that will hit the ball and one big stud pitcher.
Last team to watch is the Lynn Haven Longhorns. This team won the Dizzy Dean WS this year and beat the Bombers 2 times last year so I look for them to make it hard on any team. They have some great pitching and big sticks.
I said two reasons why this will be a good tournament the other is because teams can't just pick up players to play because they risk freezing them to that roster providing they win. MBA is alreay in because they won the Super NIT in SC so if you end up in the Championship game with MBA then your in the Elite 32
If it's a prediction you want then I would have to say MBA Pride and Pembroke Lake Bulldogs in the Championship game but you never know. They may have to play in bracket play and if this happens then I would say West Pine Nike Cobras vs MBA, just by the way they have matched up against the Bulldogs |
Edited by - 10 BB on 11/19/2009 14:48:07 |
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bmoser
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Posted - 11/19/2009 : 15:34:08
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| Thanks 10BB. Nice analysis. I keep dropping hints to my wife, but its not looking good. Any chance of it being webcast? Another consideration is that whomever doesn't make it, may very well be coming to Atlanta's S-NIT in March. |
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baseballpapa
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Posted - 11/19/2009 : 19:38:43
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10bb: Are the Bombers going to attempt to qualify for the Elite 32. I am not sure what direction the Bandits will be following. We have several options and wish we could do them all but it has gotten to the point that you must decide earlier and earlier so you hit the right tournaments in order to qualify.
What does everyone think will be the most prestigious event to win this 11U year.
Papa wants to get a all 11U team together, get them to Cooperstown and win one of the 12U weeks. I think this would be a first and although it would be very hard to do it might be possible if we pick the right week. |
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10 BB
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Posted - 11/19/2009 : 22:59:54
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We the Bombers have been a travel team since 2005. We have competed in many different States, playing for many different organizations. We the parents along with the coaching staff have come to the realization that it's not the number of trophies or tournaments you win but more about the quality of the experience. No need to pound on the chest and declare we are the nations best. We feel as if the 11u age group is the transition year more suitable for getting the team ready for the grand stage as twelves.
With all that said I wouldn't want anyone to think we want be a force because we will. Every year since 05 we have formed what we like to think as an Elite team. Each year triming the fat and bringing on new players to be able to compete at the highest level. Point blank we think we have the strongest team more so now than ever.
All of our options are on the table and as of right now we are not going to say what our plans are for the 2010 season. I will tell you that it will be more about the kids and there experience because with each year that passes we can see HS ball coming and the years are numbered as the Bombers. I will also say that the kids are going to put the work in this year in an attempt to make history as twelves. It's about putting the right kids together at the right time and being in the right place for it all to work out. Just living the DREAM and trying as parents and coaches to make them come true. |
Edited by - 10 BB on 11/20/2009 08:57:10 |
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bmoser
1633 Posts |
Posted - 11/29/2009 : 08:44:36
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Watching it from my couch. No surprises so far. Top 5 teams remain:
Pembroke Lakes Bulldogs, Team Combat, MBA Pride, West Pine Cobras, Team USSA Boltz. Today, it will get more interesting. West Pine Cobras drew Team Combat (8am Sunday morning). I see the other 3 advancing, but the Cobras-Combat match up is too tough to call.
In California S-NIT, big upset...Team Phenom upended So Cal Diamond Dawgs 3-1 sending the Dawgs home. So Cal Rebels, cherokee, SD Stars, Team Rawlings Red, & Vipers Black all still alive.
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Edited by - bmoser on 11/29/2009 13:29:24 |
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bmoser
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Posted - 11/29/2009 : 15:34:53
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I'm stumped... help me out here
How do you get "no score" in a bracket game, yet 1 team advances? Is it that the game ended 0-0, then after a series of California tiebreakers it was still 0-0, so the higher seeded team advances?
Check out the Disney SNIT Cobras vs Team Combat game. If that's the case, it must of been a very exciting game.
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bmoser
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Posted - 11/30/2009 : 08:43:09
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MBA Pride won it, and since they're already qualified, I think the 2nd place team gets the birth (Team USA Boltz out of Tampa).
Pembroke Lakes Bulldogs gave the Pride the closest game 8-7. So, with the MBA Pride and Team USA Boltz qualified, the rest still have the Stuart SNIT in May, then the Pensacola SNIT in June to make the Elite 32.
With 3 Florida SNIT's to try to make it to the Elite 32, its not likely that any Florida teams will attend Georgia's March SNIT.
I wonder why Florida gets 3 SNIT's and Georgia gets 1? Florida's population is 2X Georgia's, but not 3X. |
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KoopsDad
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Posted - 11/30/2009 : 10:40:01
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Actually, according to USSSA's recent posting, there are four in Florida this year. The three remaining are in Tallahassee (May 7-8), Kissimmee (May 14-16), and Pensacola (June 11-13).
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Originally posted by bmoser
MBA Pride won it, and since they're already qualified, I think the 2nd place team gets the birth (Team USA Boltz out of Tampa).
Pembroke Lakes Bulldogs gave the Pride the closest game 8-7. So, with the MBA Pride and Team USA Boltz qualified, the rest still have the Stuart SNIT in May, then the Pensacola SNIT in June to make the Elite 32.
With 3 Florida SNIT's to try to make it to the Elite 32, its not likely that any Florida teams will attend Georgia's March SNIT.
I wonder why Florida gets 3 SNIT's and Georgia gets 1? Florida's population is 2X Georgia's, but not 3X.
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baseballpapa
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Posted - 11/30/2009 : 10:51:20
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I have always wondered why Florida gets 3 Super NIT's and Georgia only gets one. I would dare say that we have almost as many travel baseball teams in Georgia as they do in Florida. Do you have these stats Mr. Moser. In other words how many Florida teams are registered USSSA in Florida and how many are registered in Georgia.
Bandits have not decided at this point if we will attempt to qualify for Disney but if we do have this on our agenda we generally enter 3 Super NIT's (Georgia, Tennessee, and Alabama) This gives us a much better chance of qualifying. |
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10 BB
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Posted - 11/30/2009 : 12:16:47
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| I think USSSA is giving the Bombers as many chances as they can to qualify for the ELITE. Thats why they give Fl so many Super NIT tournaments. To tell you the truth I don't know at this point if we will even chase the golden ticket. Lots of options to look at for the 2010 season and the Bombers are preparing for a record book 2011 12u season!! |
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bmoser
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Posted - 11/30/2009 : 14:11:21
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KoopsDad: Thanks for the info. I was looking at last years 11U FLA SNIT's. 3 was bad enough, but 4 is silly, especially 2 in the panhandle (sorry 10BB).
baseballpapa:
GA had 153 10U usssa teams last year and ~ 9M Georgia population.
FLA had 146 10U usssa teams last year and ~18M Florida population
Georgia gets 1 SNIT and Florida gets 4 SNIT's. I don't get it.
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baseballpapa
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Posted - 11/30/2009 : 14:44:36
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| Maybe gaussa can answer this question. We have more teams registered in Georgia and Florida gets 4 and we get 1. This should be an interesting answer. It couldn't be due to the response the Atlanta Super NIT gets as this tournament is always packed. |
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KoopsDad
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Posted - 11/30/2009 : 16:10:37
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AND, Alabama gets two this year, one of which is in Orange Beach which might as well be in Florida as it appears to be right on the Florida line on the panhandle beside Pensacola which is already scheduled to host a SNIT of their own in June.
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Originally posted by bmoser
I was looking at last years 11U FLA SNIT's. 3 was bad enough, but 4 is silly, especially 2 in the panhandle (sorry 10BB).
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gausssa
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Posted - 11/30/2009 : 16:52:17
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| Good guestion papa, i have copied and pasted these post and sent them to Matt T. (State Director) I will see what he says. I would love to see 2 in Georgia each year. Don't get excited, wouldn't happen this year anyway. |
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justin case
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Posted - 11/30/2009 : 21:24:43
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| bottom line bubba you guys are giving fl and al more love than ga. somebody needs to explain or we should consider other options in all of usssa tournaments. It appears to me that ga get more love with the other associations. Bubba it took us this long to figure out that you guys had local support. the other associations have been reaching out for years. I think you guys are losing the fight in ga and you will see more this year. And bubba dont u get excited if we decide to boycott your tournaments. |
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stinger
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Posted - 12/01/2009 : 07:29:45
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Bubba - I appreciate you looking into this. It's really ridiculous that GA has only 1 slot when everyone else (AL, SC, FL) has multiple births. To make matters worse, the 1 Super NIT we have will not be played by many of the major teams due to it's location, so we effectively have none. Driving this past Saturday afternoon from S. Georgia, the Henry County traffic started in Jackson, GA on 75. And the side roads can be even worse, even during the week. So even if you pay for hotel for your team, you still have to deal with a very aggravating time getting to/from your games.
Based on your comments earlier, I understand why USSSA is working with Henry County but we all wish you had a better option for us. If we had 2 tournaments, it would render our complaints moot. My 2 cents.
The Forsyth Slugfest looks, feels and acts like a more like a Super NIT than Henry Co. and attracts as many teams. I have no idea about the politics of USSSA but perhaps elevating that event is an option. |
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bmoser
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Posted - 12/01/2009 : 10:35:03
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Guys,
We all have some pent up anger at how USSSA has been run here in the past. Bubba is new to his position, is aware of, or still learning of, the past issues, and seems sincere to me in trying to address them.
I'm willing to give him a chance to improve the mess it has become, and I hope others will too. At least we have someone now who will communicate with us, meet with us, and is expressing willingness to put Humpty Dumpty back together again.
Maybe Bubba should have a dunking tank at the rules meeting so we can all take out some frustration.
The more healthy orgs that exist, the more competition for our cash, the wider the tourney options each weekend, the better for all of us...unless you work for 1 of the orgs!
Let's keep the big picture in mind. I also like Grand Slam's recent post about their proposed new format. See what competition does? Let's foster more of the same, not less.
How cool would it be to have 4 or 5 healthy and thriving tourney promoters fighting it out every weekend for our business?
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gausssa
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Posted - 12/01/2009 : 17:42:02
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bmoser, thanks for the support. To all.... As i have said and posted that we(USSSA) understands we have some issue's and we are not doing things perfect. I coached a major travel team for years and trust me, no org does things perfect but they try and so will we. I hear ya lound and clear on the Super Nit. As i have said before, we have to have 40-50 fields for that event and a major comittment from parks and rec. That alone is hard to get. Berths on the Super Nit, i agree we should get more than 1 and maybe that will happen one day. That is controlled by National Office in Kissimmee. Fl. (uhm ??) Anyway, I can't speak nor do i have answer for WHY Georgia USSSA has not found this site until now. All i can do is improve what is going now and forward.
Justincase: I also stated in my very first post that i would not mud-sling or bash anyone or reply to negative comits about me or USSSA. I will not stoop to that level. However, i here your complaints and concerns and do understand where your coming from. Play where you feel you should play and can be happy. Maybe we will meet at one of the coach's meeting's... |
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baseballpapa
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Posted - 12/01/2009 : 20:13:22
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No one has been on USSSA more than Papa and you all know this. But I agree with Moser. It does appear that Bubba is putting it on the line and beginning to address some of our concerns. I don't expect things to change overnight but as long as he is trying I will throw my support behind him. Money talks and if there are 50 fewer teams in the Super NIT this year than last I am sure USSSA will then look to change the venue. I still have nightmares about the traffic last year and it was worse for me as I had two playing, one in the 10U and one in the 12U and trying to cross town to get to the other fields was awful.
Moser is right in saying the more competition there is the better things should be for the teams. I vote that we give the guy a chance to prove himself. |
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justin case
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Posted - 12/01/2009 : 21:52:47
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| Ok bubba I hear you Im just a good old georgia boy and I just did not understand how GA was the step child in the south and as many have said on here we register more teams than most. So I am not asking you to come down to another level. I am just saying there is competition out here and we should be treated the same as the other states. That is all I am saying Bubba, I know it has nothing to do with you but your business is about profits and making your client happy. I work for a company that sale heart valves and we make adjustments for our clients. I do not understand why at this junction, you guys can not make adjustments to keep a very good group of clients(ga travel teams)happy. I know that papa and bmoser are a little more patient than me, I am sorry it is just travel baseball fix it now. |
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gausssa
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Posted - 12/02/2009 : 09:56:59
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justin case: Changes will come in Georgia. Some will happen fast and others want but we will make strides along the way. I am only 1 voice but a voice that I feel people will listen to. These coach's meeting's coming in Jan are going to be a huge step in the right direction. You don't know me but Im asking you to trust me until i don't do what I say am going to do. Feel free to reach out to me on a one on one level as I am always accessable. 678-467-2172
This goes anyone of you guys that want to talk.... |
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bobo
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Posted - 12/02/2009 : 11:43:32
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| Mr.Smiff, You are alot braver than me, come this time next year,I bet you want be putting your number out for everyone. These guys have done got your number on speed dial and when something comes up that cell phone will come out of their pockets like a switchblade knife. |
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gausssa
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Posted - 12/02/2009 : 13:15:56
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bobo
It's not a matter of being brave. If we as a hole are doing things the right way at all of our tournaments then my phone want blow up. These teams are paying good money to play in these tournaments and should be able to reach out to someone and get a response. I didn't say that by calling Bubba Smith would solve everyone's problems everytime. There will be times that a coach doesn't like my answer but atleast he was able to contact me. |
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