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FLABB
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nscuda01
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 Posted - 03/17/2012 : 00:25:20
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| Our coaches, kids and parents are looking forward to the rematch against Team TPX in bracket play and give the coach as second chance at besting us. Hopefully based on the fun we had last time out the only thing "busch" will be in the adult cooler after the game. |
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BB301
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Posted - 03/17/2012 : 19:46:56
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Originally posted by nscuda01
Our coaches, kids and parents are looking forward to the rematch against Team TPX in bracket play and give the coach as second chance at besting us. Hopefully based on the fun we had last time out the only thing "busch" will be in the adult cooler after the game.
That would be TPX Grey and the coach you are referring to will not be coaching them. He will be coaching Team TPX in the other bracket. Good Luck to the Cudas. |
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nscuda01
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Posted - 03/18/2012 : 01:30:29
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Yep you are right. I do not understand all this bracketology. That is too bad as we would have liked the chance to heckle that character fom the stands.... cleanly of course!
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Originally posted by BB301
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Originally posted by nscuda01
Our coaches, kids and parents are looking forward to the rematch against Team TPX in bracket play and give the coach as second chance at besting us. Hopefully based on the fun we had last time out the only thing "busch" will be in the adult cooler after the game.
That would be TPX Grey and the coach you are referring to will not be coaching them. He will be coaching Team TPX in the other bracket. Good Luck to the Cudas.
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is it spring yet
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Posted - 03/18/2012 : 21:43:07
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| Congrats team TPX (1st open bracket) and team TPX grey (1st AA bracket). |
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rbr08
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Posted - 03/18/2012 : 22:53:39
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Cuda,
Guess yall were driving home by the time we got to the park today.  You should have hung out to watch both TPX teams get some hardware |
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nscuda01
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Posted - 03/18/2012 : 23:12:45
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| Still undefeated versus the TPX major team. Scoreboard!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
Edited by - nscuda01 on 03/19/2012 08:58:12 |
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FLABB
183 Posts |
Posted - 03/18/2012 : 23:54:07
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| Staff Report: The victory goes to TPX versus a depleted Blueclaw squad over the weekend. All things being equal based on our staff eval of games in Lake City the more fundamentally sound team is Blue Claws and higher-end pitching goes to them as well. TPX may have more pitching depth overall but Claws have the edge on Sunday "goto" pitching and quality coaching numbers at the moment. |
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BB301
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Posted - 03/19/2012 : 09:46:11
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Originally posted by FLABB
Staff Report: The victory goes to TPX versus a depleted Blueclaw squad over the weekend. All things being equal based on our staff eval of games in Lake City the more fundamentally sound team is Blue Claws and higher-end pitching goes to them as well. TPX may have more pitching depth overall but Claws have the edge on Sunday "goto" pitching and quality coaching numbers at the moment.
I don't disagree with your analysis, however, I believe that Team TPX beat the BlueClaws in Ocala a few weeks back with their full team there including their "higher-end" pitching. Seems to me that Team TPX is playing pretty well. They wouldn't beat the Elite Major teams but can play with most. For some reason, Team TPX seems to be a team that people on this board love to hate. I personally saw them in Lake City at the Super NIT and they appear to me to be up and down and when up can be really good, but can also make some errors that they can't overcome. |
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BB301
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Posted - 03/19/2012 : 09:50:29
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Originally posted by nscuda01
Still undefeated versus the TPX major team. Scoreboard!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Cuda, based on your comment, I did a little research. It appears that you are 1-2-1 against Team TPX. You weren't even undefeated against them in the tournament you got the win. I don't think you can claim scoreboard based on the results I see. |
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FLABB
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Posted - 03/19/2012 : 10:53:58
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Based on interviews with coaches, parents and players in Lake City and other times prior. The love /hate comes from how the head coach treats people and his constant recruiting has labeled him with that moniker. There seems to be a total disregard for the unwritten etiquette rules of the game. There was a recent incident regarding the coach and another in another USSSA tournament in which it was reported to the higher ups at USSSA and to Tak W the TD. Per Tak they are working to clean up sportsmanship from all the levels at his tourneys.
There needs to be fines and suspensions levied and I believe Utrip is heading in that direction.
The team we have watched is sound but disjointed and some players make errors on routine put outs. The seem to play on pins and needles in the field but are relaxed at the plate. This comes per our interviews from the strength of the team "hitting".
One of our junior columnists asked to pitch a story about these types of coaches to a fringe or web based periodical. If so, we will engage him as well as countless others we know of to get an exclusive.
Read this essay and you may identify with the sentiments of the author and some coaches may see themselves as exactly what this coach outlines:
http://ezinearticles.com/?Youth-Baseball-Digest---Arrogant-Coach,-Youre-So-Vain,-You-Probably-Think-This-Article-is-About-You&id=3631772
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Originally posted by BB301
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Originally posted by FLABB
Staff Report: The victory goes to TPX versus a depleted Blueclaw squad over the weekend. All things being equal based on our staff eval of games in Lake City the more fundamentally sound team is Blue Claws and higher-end pitching goes to them as well. TPX may have more pitching depth overall but Claws have the edge on Sunday "goto" pitching and quality coaching numbers at the moment.
I don't disagree with your analysis, however, I believe that Team TPX beat the BlueClaws in Ocala a few weeks back with their full team there including their "higher-end" pitching. Seems to me that Team TPX is playing pretty well. They wouldn't beat the Elite Major teams but can play with most. For some reason, Team TPX seems to be a team that people on this board love to hate. I personally saw them in Lake City at the Super NIT and they appear to me to be up and down and when up can be really good, but can also make some errors that they can't overcome.
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nscuda01
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Posted - 03/19/2012 : 11:02:08
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We lost to them and their B team squad on the first day. Could not hit the B team kids they threw at us. They then on Sunday bused in thier studs to beat us after a verbal althercation with one of our coaches that was out of line for both parties. Our coach was suspended and sent a letter to the Director appologizing. We beat them 10 or so to 0 or 1. Thier A team should beat us 9 out of 10 times to be honest but our kids used thier coaches arrogance to motivate themselves to take them to the woodshed and they did. The kids still talk about how they came together as one and beat a paid coach that has every resource at his disposal and based on reading this blog every kid due to his pervasive recruiting.
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Originally posted by BB301
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Originally posted by nscuda01
Still undefeated versus the TPX major team. Scoreboard!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Cuda, based on your comment, I did a little research. It appears that you are 1-2-1 against Team TPX. You weren't even undefeated against them in the tournament you got the win. I don't think you can claim scoreboard based on the results I see.
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BB301
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Posted - 03/19/2012 : 12:50:54
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Originally posted by nscuda01
We lost to them and their B team squad on the first day. Could not hit the B team kids they threw at us. They then on Sunday bused in thier studs to beat us after a verbal althercation with one of our coaches that was out of line for both parties. Our coach was suspended and sent a letter to the Director appologizing. We beat them 10 or so to 0 or 1. Thier A team should beat us 9 out of 10 times to be honest but our kids used thier coaches arrogance to motivate themselves to take them to the woodshed and they did. The kids still talk about how they came together as one and beat a paid coach that has every resource at his disposal and based on reading this blog every kid due to his pervasive recruiting.
It is an interesting perspective that you have. A little research goes a long way. Actually, if you look at the Team TPX roster, 2 of the 3 kids that pitched the Saturday game are on the major team, not the 'B' team as you have stated. The third pitcher that pitched that game is not currently on either roster. Can't tell who pitched Sunday since USSSA doesn't always update the innings pitched for the Sunday games. |
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nscuda01
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Posted - 03/19/2012 : 15:11:13
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Whatever team they had out there we tore them up the second day. With the way these coaches switch kids etc they could be blackjack dealers in Vegas.
Bottom line is we won primarily because their of the actions of the coach that rubbed our kids, parents and coaches the wrong way and they inflicted payback on him. They are the better team 10 out of 10 times. 301 it is even better if we lost to some of the Major team kids as we know they threw their best the next day and we one rather handily. That is baseball.
And it is funny how a little research goes a long way. That TPX sponsorship is bogus a simple call to Hillerich & Bradsby by one of our parents to complain about the horrendous incident discovered that as a byproduct.
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Originally posted by BB301
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Originally posted by nscuda01
We lost to them and their B team squad on the first day. Could not hit the B team kids they threw at us. They then on Sunday bused in thier studs to beat us after a verbal althercation with one of our coaches that was out of line for both parties. Our coach was suspended and sent a letter to the Director appologizing. We beat them 10 or so to 0 or 1. Thier A team should beat us 9 out of 10 times to be honest but our kids used thier coaches arrogance to motivate themselves to take them to the woodshed and they did. The kids still talk about how they came together as one and beat a paid coach that has every resource at his disposal and based on reading this blog every kid due to his pervasive recruiting.
It is an interesting perspective that you have. A little research goes a long way. Actually, if you look at the Team TPX roster, 2 of the 3 kids that pitched the Saturday game are on the major team, not the 'B' team as you have stated. The third pitcher that pitched that game is not currently on either roster. Can't tell who pitched Sunday since USSSA doesn't always update the innings pitched for the Sunday games.
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is it spring yet
30 Posts |
Posted - 03/19/2012 : 15:31:34
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Originally posted by BB301
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Originally posted by FLABB
Staff Report: The victory goes to TPX versus a depleted Blueclaw squad over the weekend. All things being equal based on our staff eval of games in Lake City the more fundamentally sound team is Blue Claws and higher-end pitching goes to them as well. TPX may have more pitching depth overall but Claws have the edge on Sunday "goto" pitching and quality coaching numbers at the moment.
I don't disagree with your analysis, however, I believe that Team TPX beat the BlueClaws in Ocala a few weeks back with their full team there including their "higher-end" pitching. Seems to me that Team TPX is playing pretty well. They wouldn't beat the Elite Major teams but can play with most. For some reason, Team TPX seems to be a team that people on this board love to hate. I personally saw them in Lake City at the Super NIT and they appear to me to be up and down and when up can be really good, but can also make some errors that they can't overcome.
To say they couldnt beat an elite major team I think is a stretch, the fact that the cudas beat them once proves thet these are 12 yr olds and on any given day any of them can be beat. |
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bbfan01
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Posted - 03/19/2012 : 16:36:05
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Cuda,
I have never made a posting on this discussion board before, although I confess to reading the posts regularly. I read the posts for entertainment value - similar to reading the National Enquirer. Accordingly, I am fully aware that much of the information set out on this discussion board is made to serve a personal agenda, personal feeling, etc., and as such is likely not accurate. Further, I realize how rumors spread around the ball park.
I write today to address some facts about Team TPX (and TPX Grey). In the spirit of full disclosure, my son plays on Team TPX - the major team (not TPX Grey - AA team). As an initial matter, both teams have talented players. The major team's players are a bit more polished and/or experienced. I will not say that one team is better than the other -- it serves no purpose.
Second, the concept of a two TPX teams was hatched in mid-fall. However, neither Team TPX or TPX Grey's roster were set or complete until about January. Basically, more kids were needed to fill both teams until January.
Third, the players who comprised the team who the Cudas played in November and December primarily play on the TPX Grey now. But, as stated above, the rosters were not full so there were 3 or 4 kids that presently play on the major team now and would have played that weekend so there would have been enough players to field a team. Therefore, contrary to your assertions, the team that the Cudas beat that Sunday was not primarily made up of the players on the major team. Further, the major team was not "bused in" as you allege. Nothing could be further from the truth.
Basically, the team the Cudas beat was not the present major team. Also, based on this weekends results it does not seem likely that the Cudas would beat Team TPX. For instance, this past weekend, Team TPX beat the same Blue Claws team that beat the Cudas 17-4. Further, Team TPX run ruled the Riverhawks twice, who convincingly beat the two other teams (Scorpions and Warriors) who defeated the Cudas this weekend.
Cudos to your boys for using whatever motivation they used to put together that 10-0 victory. It apparently worked. I was not at the tournament at issue so I have no first hand knowledge as to the disagreement between the coaches. However, I do suspect that both parties were at least partially at fault.
Lastly, regarding your assertion that your boys "beat a paid coach that has every resource at his disposal and based on reading this blog every kid due to his pervasive recruiting." Yes, both Team TPX and TPX Grey's coaches are paid. However, the assertion that our teams have "every resource at their disposal" could not be further from the truth. We practice on a field that does not have lights, and therefore (at least until recently with the change to day light saving time) the teams did not get much field practice. Whatever "other resources" you are referring to I have no idea. Team TPX and Grey are no different from other travel ball teams regarding expenses, etc. The parents pay for tournaments, uniforms, equipment, etc.
Your assertion of recruiting is also off base. First, I assume you meant "persuasive" not "pervasive" ---- not sure how perverted recruiting would be beneficial. Notwithstanding, all the boys on the major team live in Jacksonville and practice together. Also, a large portion of the boys joined the TPX family after their teams disbanded. For instance, 3 boys are from the former Crossfire team, 2 boys are from the former Blue Claws Grey team and 1 boy is from the Regulators (who may or may not disband).
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Originally posted by nscuda01
We lost to them and their B team squad on the first day. Could not hit the B team kids they threw at us. They then on Sunday bused in thier studs to beat us after a verbal althercation with one of our coaches that was out of line for both parties. Our coach was suspended and sent a letter to the Director appologizing. We beat them 10 or so to 0 or 1. Thier A team should beat us 9 out of 10 times to be honest but our kids used thier coaches arrogance to motivate themselves to take them to the woodshed and they did. The kids still talk about how they came together as one and beat a paid coach that has every resource at his disposal and based on reading this blog every kid due to his pervasive recruiting.
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Originally posted by BB301
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Originally posted by nscuda01
Still undefeated versus the TPX major team. Scoreboard!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Cuda, based on your comment, I did a little research. It appears that you are 1-2-1 against Team TPX. You weren't even undefeated against them in the tournament you got the win. I don't think you can claim scoreboard based on the results I see.
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BB301
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Posted - 03/19/2012 : 19:18:18
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Originally posted by is it spring yet
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Originally posted by BB301
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Originally posted by FLABB
Staff Report: The victory goes to TPX versus a depleted Blueclaw squad over the weekend. All things being equal based on our staff eval of games in Lake City the more fundamentally sound team is Blue Claws and higher-end pitching goes to them as well. TPX may have more pitching depth overall but Claws have the edge on Sunday "goto" pitching and quality coaching numbers at the moment.
I don't disagree with your analysis, however, I believe that Team TPX beat the BlueClaws in Ocala a few weeks back with their full team there including their "higher-end" pitching. Seems to me that Team TPX is playing pretty well. They wouldn't beat the Elite Major teams but can play with most. For some reason, Team TPX seems to be a team that people on this board love to hate. I personally saw them in Lake City at the Super NIT and they appear to me to be up and down and when up can be really good, but can also make some errors that they can't overcome.
To say they couldnt beat an elite major team I think is a stretch, the fact that the cudas beat them once proves thet these are 12 yr olds and on any given day any of them can be beat.
I agree. I didn't say they couldn't, just that I didn't think they would. On any given day, they could if everthing fell right. I just think they would have a hard time beating the Team Florida's and Central Florida Gators for instance. |
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rbr08
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Posted - 03/20/2012 : 22:07:00
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Originally posted by FLABB
Staff Report: The victory goes to TPX versus a depleted Blueclaw squad over the weekend. All things being equal based on our staff eval of games in Lake City the more fundamentally sound team is Blue Claws and higher-end pitching goes to them as well. TPX may have more pitching depth overall but Claws have the edge on Sunday "goto" pitching and quality coaching numbers at the moment.
You clearly dont know the kids on these two rosters. TPX has several Sunday pitchers and the team is 2-1 against them. The lose was a 2-0 game. |
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BangTheBox
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Posted - 03/21/2012 : 09:55:12
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You always remember your first. Welcome to NWBA and the crazy world of 12u baseball blogging.
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Originally posted by bbfan01
Cuda,
I have never made a posting on this discussion board before, although I confess to reading the posts regularly. I read the posts for entertainment value - similar to reading the National Enquirer. Accordingly, I am fully aware that much of the information set out on this discussion board is made to serve a personal agenda, personal feeling, etc., and as such is likely not accurate. Further, I realize how rumors spread around the ball park.
I write today to address some facts about Team TPX (and TPX Grey). In the spirit of full disclosure, my son plays on Team TPX - the major team (not TPX Grey - AA team). As an initial matter, both teams have talented players. The major team's players are a bit more polished and/or experienced. I will not say that one team is better than the other -- it serves no purpose.
Second, the concept of a two TPX teams was hatched in mid-fall. However, neither Team TPX or TPX Grey's roster were set or complete until about January. Basically, more kids were needed to fill both teams until January.
Third, the players who comprised the team who the Cudas played in November and December primarily play on the TPX Grey now. But, as stated above, the rosters were not full so there were 3 or 4 kids that presently play on the major team now and would have played that weekend so there would have been enough players to field a team. Therefore, contrary to your assertions, the team that the Cudas beat that Sunday was not primarily made up of the players on the major team. Further, the major team was not "bused in" as you allege. Nothing could be further from the truth.
Basically, the team the Cudas beat was not the present major team. Also, based on this weekends results it does not seem likely that the Cudas would beat Team TPX. For instance, this past weekend, Team TPX beat the same Blue Claws team that beat the Cudas 17-4. Further, Team TPX run ruled the Riverhawks twice, who convincingly beat the two other teams (Scorpions and Warriors) who defeated the Cudas this weekend.
Cudos to your boys for using whatever motivation they used to put together that 10-0 victory. It apparently worked. I was not at the tournament at issue so I have no first hand knowledge as to the disagreement between the coaches. However, I do suspect that both parties were at least partially at fault.
Lastly, regarding your assertion that your boys "beat a paid coach that has every resource at his disposal and based on reading this blog every kid due to his pervasive recruiting." Yes, both Team TPX and TPX Grey's coaches are paid. However, the assertion that our teams have "every resource at their disposal" could not be further from the truth. We practice on a field that does not have lights, and therefore (at least until recently with the change to day light saving time) the teams did not get much field practice. Whatever "other resources" you are referring to I have no idea. Team TPX and Grey are no different from other travel ball teams regarding expenses, etc. The parents pay for tournaments, uniforms, equipment, etc.
Your assertion of recruiting is also off base. First, I assume you meant "persuasive" not "pervasive" ---- not sure how perverted recruiting would be beneficial. Notwithstanding, all the boys on the major team live in Jacksonville and practice together. Also, a large portion of the boys joined the TPX family after their teams disbanded. For instance, 3 boys are from the former Crossfire team, 2 boys are from the former Blue Claws Grey team and 1 boy is from the Regulators (who may or may not disband).
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Originally posted by nscuda01
We lost to them and their B team squad on the first day. Could not hit the B team kids they threw at us. They then on Sunday bused in thier studs to beat us after a verbal althercation with one of our coaches that was out of line for both parties. Our coach was suspended and sent a letter to the Director appologizing. We beat them 10 or so to 0 or 1. Thier A team should beat us 9 out of 10 times to be honest but our kids used thier coaches arrogance to motivate themselves to take them to the woodshed and they did. The kids still talk about how they came together as one and beat a paid coach that has every resource at his disposal and based on reading this blog every kid due to his pervasive recruiting.
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Originally posted by BB301
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Originally posted by nscuda01
Still undefeated versus the TPX major team. Scoreboard!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Cuda, based on your comment, I did a little research. It appears that you are 1-2-1 against Team TPX. You weren't even undefeated against them in the tournament you got the win. I don't think you can claim scoreboard based on the results I see.
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FLABB
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Posted - 03/22/2012 : 13:02:23
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Kudos to the St. Augustine USSSA TD for implementing a no tolerance policy for unsportsmanlike conduct after the ugly incident at the Mizuno. There is no reason for such actions and it has spilled over to the parents all over the country as well.
This precedence by a TD is phenomenal and shows that he is in it for the kids while at the same time running a business.
Way to go USSSA.
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nscuda01
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Posted - 03/22/2012 : 20:39:06
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To add some details to the incident and keep as vanilla as possible. We stuck around to watch the AA championship game after getting bounced early.
It was unfortunate that the TPX coach had the wrong choice of words (in fairness probably not on purpose)after a comebacker hit the opposing pitcher and incapacitated him that incited the opposing Bluclaw fans to get upset. The TPX coach then got thrown out arguing a basic play at second later in the game.
The news is he has been suspended indefinitely by USSSA. It is great that they are taking a stand and the TD happened to be there when the TPX coach was ejected.
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Originally posted by FLABB
Kudos to the St. Augustine USSSA TD for implementing a no tolerance policy for unsportsmanlike conduct after the ugly incident at the Mizuno. There is no reason for such actions and it has spilled over to the parents all over the country as well.
This precedence by a TD is phenomenal and shows that he is in it for the kids while at the same time running a business.
Way to go USSSA.
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nscuda01
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Posted - 03/22/2012 : 23:57:35
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Based on your post you are an insider and/or coach. The "pervasive" opinion by our parents is that we would like to have you down for an extneded inning game on Sunday.
Come on down and catch a game in Viera only 45 mins away. You can bring your A, B or C team.
Weather is supposed to be great. You can give our coach a call.
http://springtrainingmagazine.com/was.html
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Originally posted by bbfan01
Cuda,
I have never made a posting on this discussion board before, although I confess to reading the posts regularly. I read the posts for entertainment value - similar to reading the National Enquirer. Accordingly, I am fully aware that much of the information set out on this discussion board is made to serve a personal agenda, personal feeling, etc., and as such is likely not accurate. Further, I realize how rumors spread around the ball park.
I write today to address some facts about Team TPX (and TPX Grey). In the spirit of full disclosure, my son plays on Team TPX - the major team (not TPX Grey - AA team). As an initial matter, both teams have talented players. The major team's players are a bit more polished and/or experienced. I will not say that one team is better than the other -- it serves no purpose.
Second, the concept of a two TPX teams was hatched in mid-fall. However, neither Team TPX or TPX Grey's roster were set or complete until about January. Basically, more kids were needed to fill both teams until January.
Third, the players who comprised the team who the Cudas played in November and December primarily play on the TPX Grey now. But, as stated above, the rosters were not full so there were 3 or 4 kids that presently play on the major team now and would have played that weekend so there would have been enough players to field a team. Therefore, contrary to your assertions, the team that the Cudas beat that Sunday was not primarily made up of the players on the major team. Further, the major team was not "bused in" as you allege. Nothing could be further from the truth.
Basically, the team the Cudas beat was not the present major team. Also, based on this weekends results it does not seem likely that the Cudas would beat Team TPX. For instance, this past weekend, Team TPX beat the same Blue Claws team that beat the Cudas 17-4. Further, Team TPX run ruled the Riverhawks twice, who convincingly beat the two other teams (Scorpions and Warriors) who defeated the Cudas this weekend.
Cudos to your boys for using whatever motivation they used to put together that 10-0 victory. It apparently worked. I was not at the tournament at issue so I have no first hand knowledge as to the disagreement between the coaches. However, I do suspect that both parties were at least partially at fault.
Lastly, regarding your assertion that your boys "beat a paid coach that has every resource at his disposal and based on reading this blog every kid due to his pervasive recruiting." Yes, both Team TPX and TPX Grey's coaches are paid. However, the assertion that our teams have "every resource at their disposal" could not be further from the truth. We practice on a field that does not have lights, and therefore (at least until recently with the change to day light saving time) the teams did not get much field practice. Whatever "other resources" you are referring to I have no idea. Team TPX and Grey are no different from other travel ball teams regarding expenses, etc. The parents pay for tournaments, uniforms, equipment, etc.
Your assertion of recruiting is also off base. First, I assume you meant "persuasive" not "pervasive" ---- not sure how perverted recruiting would be beneficial. Notwithstanding, all the boys on the major team live in Jacksonville and practice together. Also, a large portion of the boys joined the TPX family after their teams disbanded. For instance, 3 boys are from the former Crossfire team, 2 boys are from the former Blue Claws Grey team and 1 boy is from the Regulators (who may or may not disband).
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Originally posted by nscuda01
We lost to them and their B team squad on the first day. Could not hit the B team kids they threw at us. They then on Sunday bused in thier studs to beat us after a verbal althercation with one of our coaches that was out of line for both parties. Our coach was suspended and sent a letter to the Director appologizing. We beat them 10 or so to 0 or 1. Thier A team should beat us 9 out of 10 times to be honest but our kids used thier coaches arrogance to motivate themselves to take them to the woodshed and they did. The kids still talk about how they came together as one and beat a paid coach that has every resource at his disposal and based on reading this blog every kid due to his pervasive recruiting.
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Originally posted by BB301
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Originally posted by nscuda01
Still undefeated versus the TPX major team. Scoreboard!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Cuda, based on your comment, I did a little research. It appears that you are 1-2-1 against Team TPX. You weren't even undefeated against them in the tournament you got the win. I don't think you can claim scoreboard based on the results I see.
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yutebb
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Posted - 03/23/2012 : 11:27:27
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The basic play at second was a runner cleating the TPX second baseman high on the shin - after one of the BC coaches yelled "take him out." The second baseman still was limping after the game. In fairness, I also think it was just a poor choice of words by the BC's coach. The fact is that tensions were running high and conduct by coaches, parents and alike were a bit overboard.
I am constantly reading on this board that the boys are only 12 - along that line sliding cleats up to break up a double play is outside the line at this age. JMHO.
Also, word I heard was the coach was suspended 2 games - not indefinitely. Lets hope the TDs apply the same standard to all teams and coaches moving forward. I have seen lots of inappropriate conduct by coaches on the fields - many times by the very same coaches who have been doing it for years.
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Originally posted by nscuda01
To add some details to the incident and keep as vanilla as possible. We stuck around to watch the AA championship game after getting bounced early.
It was unfortunate that the TPX coach had the wrong choice of words (in fairness probably not on purpose)after a comebacker hit the opposing pitcher and incapacitated him that incited the opposing Bluclaw fans to get upset. The TPX coach then got thrown out arguing a basic play at second later in the game.
The news is he has been suspended indefinitely by USSSA. It is great that they are taking a stand and the TD happened to be there when the TPX coach was ejected.
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Originally posted by FLABB
Kudos to the St. Augustine USSSA TD for implementing a no tolerance policy for unsportsmanlike conduct after the ugly incident at the Mizuno. There is no reason for such actions and it has spilled over to the parents all over the country as well.
This precedence by a TD is phenomenal and shows that he is in it for the kids while at the same time running a business.
Way to go USSSA.
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resumetoproveit
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Posted - 03/23/2012 : 16:00:46
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Jacksonville travel baseball at the 12yo level and other age levels including the 11s needs a serious overhall and the heads of the organzations are to blame. I highly doubt a kid would go cleat up on purpose. If this is taught then that needs to be addressed.
Isn't it insane when the kids on the field are the most mature of the sandlot!
Just like I had to get over myself and arrogance as a coach the parents and other coaches need to do the same. We should be thankful we have the privlege to watch, coach and mentor these children. I have implemented mandatory community service from my team and they have picked up the ball and decided to do it as a team at the Salzbacher Center.
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Originally posted by yutebb
The basic play at second was a runner cleating the TPX second baseman high on the shin - after one of the BC coaches yelled "take him out." The second baseman still was limping after the game. In fairness, I also think it was just a poor choice of words by the BC's coach. The fact is that tensions were running high and conduct by coaches, parents and alike were a bit overboard.
I am constantly reading on this board that the boys are only 12 - along that line sliding cleats up to break up a double play is outside the line at this age. JMHO.
Also, word I heard was the coach was suspended 2 games - not indefinitely. Lets hope the TDs apply the same standard to all teams and coaches moving forward. I have seen lots of inappropriate conduct by coaches on the fields - many times by the very same coaches who have been doing it for years.
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Originally posted by nscuda01
To add some details to the incident and keep as vanilla as possible. We stuck around to watch the AA championship game after getting bounced early.
It was unfortunate that the TPX coach had the wrong choice of words (in fairness probably not on purpose)after a comebacker hit the opposing pitcher and incapacitated him that incited the opposing Bluclaw fans to get upset. The TPX coach then got thrown out arguing a basic play at second later in the game.
The news is he has been suspended indefinitely by USSSA. It is great that they are taking a stand and the TD happened to be there when the TPX coach was ejected.
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Originally posted by FLABB
Kudos to the St. Augustine USSSA TD for implementing a no tolerance policy for unsportsmanlike conduct after the ugly incident at the Mizuno. There is no reason for such actions and it has spilled over to the parents all over the country as well.
This precedence by a TD is phenomenal and shows that he is in it for the kids while at the same time running a business.
Way to go USSSA.
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Edited by - resumetoproveit on 03/23/2012 16:49:13 |
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nscuda01
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Posted - 03/23/2012 : 16:50:51
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We can argue this till the cows come home and get nowhere. Here it is in B/W:
-Both sides have culpability
-The suspension is warranted as there is no place for foul language on the 12 year old field probably deservedly for 2 games
-The heads and coaches of these two organizations need to take heed
-From my perspective in the stands immaturity of one side coach has a lot to do with the ejection which could have been prevented easily if he would have deferred to the umpires
If this were presented to a jury we would have a hung jury and in some jurisdictions the baseball court would give the jury a so-called Allen charge, inviting the dissenting jurors to re-examine their opinions, as a last-ditch effort to prevent the jury from hanging. Point is it is a cluster where we all can learn something even just us watching with no dog in the fight.
It is no surprise that I have been fuming over the incident with us two months ago. There are common threads that need to be ironed out.
Remember when the Astros player in Bad News Bears II said let the kids play? We all need to follow that recommendation. It starts with one.
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Edited by - nscuda01 on 03/23/2012 20:46:28 |
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