| Author |
 Topic  |
|
|
ecb11
31 Posts |
 Posted - 06/08/2011 : 22:10:38
|
| Not long ago people were talking about the best teams, as usual it was the same old teams that had dominated the age group for years. Many wrote there thoughts on what would happen and what teams would dominate. Some suggested that 643 and the Georgia Hurricanes would be two of the best; I could not agree more. 643 just proved that they have the depth, desire and coaching to rise to the top of the Major division. Surviving the TC event was the start of many years of high level of play. Not to be out done the Georgia Hurricanes have quietly dominated the AAA level of play. With limited roster talent, they simply play very hard, make teams play a different style of baseball than most are prepared for. I believe that both teams will continue to rise and will be the class of this age group for the next several years. Both teams are well organized, will continue to add key pieces to their respective rosters and receive some of the best coaching in any age group. Thoughts? Who else is ready to make the jump to the top spot? |
|
|
baseballnutz
427 Posts |
Posted - 06/08/2011 : 23:48:05
|
I think we'll find out this weekend about 6-4-3 at the USSSA State Championship, are they improved - yes, did they have a nice run last weekend, sure - let's see how they play this weekend against the big boys then we'll know more.
I think the Hurricanes do the little things well that keep them in a lot of games against AAA teams and are classed correctly as was proved when they stepped up in talent in the Wills Park tournament a couple of weeks back. |
 |
|
|
itsbaseballtime
348 Posts |
Posted - 06/09/2011 : 00:45:27
|
ECB11, Sorry, but I have to disagree. What have the EC Longhorns and the Ga Yard Dogs done to loose the dominating spots at 10u Major?
They have won every tournament that matters and many that dont.
Why are they now NOT DOMINATING.
Dont look at pool play. Look at who wins the tournamnet.
Regards |
|
|
|
suwaneedad11
84 Posts |
Posted - 06/09/2011 : 08:30:49
|
| Honestly it is more than wins that would classify a team "successful" at any level for that matter! If you look at how these teams manage the game, win or lose, it shows they are a class above! Take a look at Wills Park, not many tournament wins but still win games and compete to the bitter end...regardless of them walking away with a trophy at the end of the day they are also a very good team. When you look at teams like 643 or GA Hurricanes they simply out coach and outplay the competition and do it with class! |
|
|
|
baseballRus
126 Posts |
Posted - 06/09/2011 : 11:53:22
|
quote:
Originally posted by suwaneedad11
Honestly it is more than wins that would classify a team "successful" at any level for that matter! If you look at how these teams manage the game, win or lose, it shows they are a class above! Take a look at Wills Park, not many tournament wins but still win games and compete to the bitter end...regardless of them walking away with a trophy at the end of the day they are also a very good team. When you look at teams like 643 or GA Hurricanes they simply out coach and outplay the competition and do it with class!
Ok folks let's not get carried away here. 643 did have a great tournament win last weekend but they didn't stick out as being leaps and bounds above the competition. As already mentioned, some of the top 10u teams didn't play. As for the Hurricanes, they've no doubt have had a great AAA season which started at AA if I recall correctly. I doubt very seriously if the success would have been similar trying to out coach and out play the majority of the Major teams. I believe 643 is a good Major team and the Canes a good AAA team but there are plenty others. |
|
|
|
itsbaseballtime
348 Posts |
Posted - 06/09/2011 : 12:28:36
|
Sorry, i thought the original post said "had dominated". If I missed something please let me know. I did not mean to argue or draw any team we play and respect into a debate.
|
|
|
|
suwaneedad11
84 Posts |
Posted - 06/10/2011 : 08:32:19
|
| baseballRus agreed my point is there is more to a "great" team than wins and loses! We also need to realize these are 10 & 11 year olds who may or may not improve. I just enjoy watching a well coached team and this was my point. |
|
|
|
MoonShot
63 Posts |
Posted - 06/10/2011 : 10:33:17
|
This is 10u baseball. Any team can beat any team on any given day. Some teams are better coached. Some teams have stronger players. However, I have yet to see anyone dominate. If you listed ever tournament played this year, you won't see one team that won them all. In TC state 643 won by good execution. To me dominate means you beat everyone by a large margin. I haven't seen that by any team. As for the comment about the georgia hurricanes, I have never heard of most of the AA and AAA teams they beat. Did they play any of the stronger AAA teams like Savannah bulldogs, Coal mountain storm, Eastside Hurricanes, Sandy Plains Wildcats, Kennesaw Generals , Cherokee Reds or Alpharetta Athletics.. I saw they had a good run in a 643 Invitational. Maybe next year when they move to Major and enter major tournaments. At that time, we can better judge.
The Yard Dogs, 643, Longhorns, North Cobb are still the strongest teams. Include covington, Ringgold, OP, Wills and the Yankees. |
|
|
|
ecb11
31 Posts |
Posted - 06/10/2011 : 12:32:36
|
I agree there are a lot of high quality teams. I did not say 643 was dominant..yet...but I do believe they will be in a short time. My point, like Moonshot pointed out, is some teams are stronger player wise. I watch what does a team do with the talent it has? Is the talent being developed? Is the talent, whether A, AA, AAA or Major, playing at the highest level it can? When I watch these items, I believe that 643 and the Hurricanes are stand outs. 643 has Major talent but not the same as most of those mentioned already. The Hurricanes were reassigned to A at the beginning of the season; now they have won 2 AAA Super Nits. As the season winds down, I believe that these are two teams / programs we will all hear more about.
|
|
|
|
suwaneedad11
84 Posts |
Posted - 06/10/2011 : 12:40:15
|
| Moonshot are you saying that only teams that play in Major are considered strong teams? I think this is narrow-minded since A, AA, AAA all have competitive well coached teams who depending on what division they play in they just flat out win. I do agree with your statement that on any given day a team can be beat anyone, no doubt and at the end of the day this is still 10U baseball...again I think you can't just judge a team on wins & loses since there is more to a good team than this....my opinion but like the discussion. |
|
|
|
BDevil
2 Posts |
Posted - 06/10/2011 : 12:55:52
|
While I agree that the Georgia Hurricanes are not a Major team, let us not minimize their play. For clarification purposes, they lost a low scoring pool play game to Coal Mountain Storm, beat the Cherokee Reds in the championship of a tournament and have not met the other teams on your list. They have won 8 or 9 tournaments, including the AAA Atlanta Super NIT and the Alabama AAA Super NIT that included 21 teams and victories over two teams with very strong AAA records in Alabama.
What is more impressive than the resume of "who you have played and beaten" is the way they play the game. What the boys are asked to do mentally and in terms of execution definitely surpasses what I have seen in typical ten year old games of any classification.
|
|
|
|
suwaneedad11
84 Posts |
Posted - 06/10/2011 : 12:57:25
|
Since USSSA seems to be the only that actually provides a ranking system..I think this is a good snap shot to some of the "strong teams" in Georgia at all levels.
Major
1 GA Signature Park Falcons 1289 360 8-2 .800 97-64 .602 35-14 .714 7.9 6.8 1.1
2 GA GA Yard Dogs Black 1268 1125 26-8 .765 345-249 .581 130-50 .722 7.9 4.2 3.6
3 GA 6-4-3 DP Cougars 1205 235 6-3 .667 64-31 .674 81-23 .779 4.2 4.4 -0.2
4 GA East Cobb Longhorns 1157 485 9-6 .600 154-62 .713 149-51 .745 5.3 5.1 0.2
5 GA Ringgold Baseball Factory 1152 655 6-2 .750 21-22 .488 9-6 .600 10.3 4.0 6.3
6 GA North Cobb Warriors 1048 110 4-4 .500 90-30 .750 43-22 .662 6.4 5.6 0.8
7 GA Home Plate Chilidogs - Burford 991 660 9-4 .692 69-101 .406 22-43 .338 6.7 4.2 2.5
8 GA Covington Sting 969 980 11-8 .579 71-99 .418 90-47 .657 7.8 6.8 0.9
9 GA West Forsyth Diamond Dawgs 926 435 4-3 .571 14-18 .438 23-21 .523 5.9 6.1 -0.3
10 GA Lula Lugnuts 918 360 2-1 .667 10-18 .357 4-8 .333 7.7 5.3 2.3
AAA
1 GA Georgia Hurricanes 1283 890 16-3 .842 161-139 .537 34-21 .618 8.1 3.4 4.7
2 GA Georgia Select - Boyd 1144 510 6-1 .857 36-30 .545 16-3 .842 7.9 3.9 4.0
3 GA Savannah Bulldogs 1137 565 7-3 .700 81-70 .536 28-16 .636 6.7 2.8 3.9
4 GA West Georgia Lightning 1117 1380 13-5 .722 89-104 .461 59-41 .590 6.6 5.9 0.7
5 GA Georgia Blues 1090 890 15-8 .652 121-121 .500 77-39 .664 7.0 4.5 2.5
6 GA South GA Bulldogs 1083 200 3-0 1 16-13 .552 0-0 8.3 3.0 5.3
7 GA Valdosta Black Sox 1075 280 3-2 .600 20-12 .625 19-11 .633 5.4 5.8 -0.4
8 GA Sport Specific Baseball 1051 400 4-3 .571 13-9 .591 10-4 .714 9.0 6.6 2.4
9 GA Crossroads Baseball 974 1180 11-10 .524 99-87 .532 100-52 .658 6.4 6.6 -0.1
10 GA Albany Marlins 966 415 3-1 .750 10-15 .400 2-2 .500 8.5 5.8 2.8
AA
1 GA Effingham Outlaws 1545 885 12-0 1 68-52 .567 0-0 12.4 3.4 9.0
2 GA Hopewell Hawks 1273 580 15-3 .833 158-109 .592 27-26 .509 7.9 4.4 3.6
3 GA Parkview Panthers 1175 240 7-2 .778 88-81 .521 32-30 .516 8.8 5.9 2.9
4 GA Oconee Tigers 1140 955 24-8 .750 148-183 .447 86-73 .541 9.8 5.5 4.3
5 GA Milton Bulldogs 1121 150 6-1 .857 59-72 .450 15-3 .833 6.6 3.6 3.0
6 GA GPA Hooks White 1106 850 13-6 .684 85-92 .480 75-40 .652 8.7 5.9 2.8
7 GA Roswell Hornets 1068 55 4-1 .800 37-33 .529 15-3 .833 8.0 5.6 2.4
8 GA North Forsyth Knights 1001 350 8-4 .667 44-84 .344 55-35 .611 6.1 5.3 0.8
9 GA Rockdale Rhinos 999 815 14-11 .560 132-119 .526 103-66 .609 6.9 5.7 1.2
10 GA Social Circle Storm 998 905 7-5 .583 65-78 .455 80-33 .708 6.2 4.9 1.3
A
1 GA Crossroads Gladiators 1265 490 15-1 .938 79-107 .425 4-6 .400 11.9 3.5 8.4
2 GA Putnam Predators 1130 460 7-2 .778 16-44 .267 22-4 .846 7.4 6.3 1.1
3 GA Warriors 1102 385 5-0 1 5-16 .238 0-0 13.2 4.4 8.8
4 GA Forsyth Titans 1072 220 5-1 .833 30-27 .526 1-0 1 9.8 3.7 6.2
5 GA Sprayberry Jr. Jackets 1058 140 3-0 1 6-8 .429 0-0 13.3 6.0 7.3
6 GA PTB Bats 1042 535 7-3 .700 16-25 .390 11-9 .550 9.4 8.2 1.2
7 GA Midway Rush 1017 165 1-0 1 5-1 .833 0-0 10.0 2.0 8.0
8 GA Hard Knocks Bats 1006 55 4-1 .800 4-18 .182 3-0 1 9.0 9.4 -0.4
9 GA Diamond Kings 995 285 2-2 .500 8-5 .615 14-5 .737 8.5 8.5 0.0
10 GA Patriot Baseball Academy 986 100 3-1 .750 10-23 .303 15-1 .938 9.8 6.5 3.3 |
|
|
|
southbaseball
1 Posts |
Posted - 06/10/2011 : 15:11:51
|
We should be proud of all our GA teams in A, AA, AAA and Major! If you pull up the USSSA National Rankings we have a team from GA in the top 10 of each class...way to go GA baseball!!
USSSA National Rankings 2011
Class Major
1 AZ Sandlot All-Stars 10u 1346 1125 16-1 .941 115-103 .528 4-4 .500 8.2 2.5 5.7
2 FLS TEAM MIAMI 1320 1185 22-5 .815 328-195 .627 87-44 .664 7.8 2.8 5.0
3 GA Signature Park Falcons 1289 360 8-2 .800 97-64 .602 35-14 .714 7.9 6.8 1.1
4 CAN Lamorinda Spartans 1281 995 9-2 .818 56-45 .554 26-11 .703 5.1 3.8 1.3
5 TXN DBAT Mustangs- Greer 1272 575 8-2 .800 78-56 .582 13-6 .684 7.8 3.0 4.8
6 GA GA Yard Dogs Black 1268 1125 26-8 .765 345-249 .581 130-50 .722 7.9 4.2 3.6
7 MS PSA Worth Sox Red 1250 1635 21-6 .778 274-231 .543 131-56 .701 8.5 3.7 4.8
8 CAS Oakley Stingrays 1247 1430 18-5 .783 126-118 .516 56-20 .737 8.0 3.6 4.4
9 KS Mac n Seitz Indians 1247 865 19-5 .792 172-176 .494 84-29 .743 7.2 3.9 3.3
10 OK Oklahoma Naturals 1240 780 12-4 .750 102-71 .590 39-15 .722 5.3 3.3 2.0
Class AAA
1 GA Georgia Hurricanes 1283 890 16-3 .842 161-139 .537 34-21 .618 8.1 3.4 4.7
2 NM SKYSOX 1282 695 10-0 1 39-77 .336 0-0 8.9 1.4 7.5
3 LA Gorilla Axle 1282 1620 14-2 .875 101-101 .500 17-13 .567 7.9 3.0 4.9
4 TXN FM Outlaws 1279 200 11-3 .786 60-48 .556 22-5 .815 10.1 4.7 5.4
5 FLS Boca Bombers 1245 705 9-0 1 17-43 .283 0-0 12.2 4.4 7.8
6 CAN BV Bees 1235 480 8-0 1 23-24 .489 0-0 12.4 4.8 7.6
7 LA Cubs Baseball 1232 1075 10-3 .769 109-90 .548 32-13 .711 9.6 3.7 5.9
8 MO KC Gladiators 1219 245 6-0 1 116-51 .695 0-0 10.7 5.8 4.8
9 TXS Texas Arsenal 1209 1395 9-1 .900 62-54 .534 12-7 .632 7.8 3.3 4.5
10 TXW Hub City Dust Devils 1208 305 10-2 .833 36-52 .409 14-8 .636 9.3 4.5 4.8
Class AA
1 GA Effingham Outlaws 1545 885 12-0 1 68-52 .567 0-0 12.4 3.4 9.0
2 TNE Red Devils Baseball 1328 425 14-1 .933 124-131 .486 11-9 .550 8.3 3.3 5.0
3 NC Whiteville Wolfpack 1318 230 11-2 .846 151-135 .528 22-6 .786 9.3 5.2 4.1
4 MI Oakland Reds 1308 260 10-0 1 22-25 .468 0-0 12.0 4.9 7.1
5 NV Las Vegas Extreme 1306 160 10-0 1 53-63 .457 0-0 10.7 6.6 4.1
6 VA Hanover Xtreme 1306 370 11-0 1 47-96 .329 0-0 13.4 5.2 8.2
7 KS Kansas Cannons 1296 375 9-0 1 61-52 .540 0-0 12.1 3.9 8.2
8 SC St. Andrew's Rocks 1296 545 11-3 .786 98-69 .587 36-8 .818 9.4 3.9 5.4
9 LA The Red Sox 1284 750 12-2 .857 91-71 .562 15-13 .536 9.6 3.7 5.9
10 CAN JR JAGUARS 1283 220 9-2 .818 38-39 .494 10-2 .833 9.0 5.4 3.6
Class A
1 GA Crossroads Gladiators 1265 490 15-1 .938 79-107 .425 4-6 .400 11.9 3.5 8.4
2 MO Vipers 1249 555 8-0 1 34-27 .557 0-0 12.9 2.9 10.0
3 KS Diamond Dawgs 1239 350 11-2 .846 36-38 .486 11-9 .550 11.9 6.4 5.5
4 MO Smithville Wave 1226 605 9-3 .750 33-38 .465 27-2 .931 9.9 5.3 4.7
5 NE Millard Cyclones 1135 260 8-2 .800 16-24 .400 3-3 .500 10.7 7.2 3.5
6 GA Putnam Predators 1130 460 7-2 .778 16-44 .267 22-4 .846 7.4 6.3 1.1
7 TXN White Settlement Bees 1127 0 4-0 1 7-8 .467 0-0 10.8 6.0 4.8
8 KS Vikings 1124 95 6-1 .857 11-19 .367 11-2 .846 14.1 8.1 6.0
9 NE Panthers 1119 245 6-1 .857 9-16 .360 8-2 .800 9.3 3.9 5.4
10 KS Dragons 1119 100 4-2 .667 6-8 .429 14-1 .933 9.0 6.7 2.3
|
|
|
|
MoonShot
63 Posts |
Posted - 06/10/2011 : 15:53:09
|
There are good teams at every level. The best are supposed to be in Major. There are lot of teams that do not participate USSSA. They pick Triple Crown and park hosted events. USSSA is the best rating system we have but it is not all inclusive. The team listed above as number 1 in usssa major would probably not be in most people's top 10.
I think the Ga. Hurricanes would complete very well at the Major level. Savannah has done well in Major tournaments. The majority of the major tournaments have a number of AAA teams in them.
Hats off to the 2 summer All star teams ( NYO and Buckhead). They both played well in the tri-crown state. I believe they are listed at AAA. |
|
|
|
doubleday
24 Posts |
Posted - 06/10/2011 : 19:45:31
|
Thanks for the info Suwannee dad; a few more facts to consider. The Hurricanes are the top ranked team in the COUNTRY based on USSSA Power Rankings in AAA. They have played 643, North Cobb, Will Park as well as the Longhorns. Those are some of the strongest teams the southeast has to offer. I agree with ECB in what to look for from teams. Keep looking at wins and losses until you see your son not make his High School team because he doesn't have the fundamentals of the game. Go to both web sites and see what these guys do with talent. Visit http://www.eteamz.com/academycougars/ and http://www.leaguelineup.com/thecanes These teams will be THE teams that will compete with the very best that East Cobb has to offer at the upper age groups. These programs provide everyone alternatives if East Cobb is not close, too expensive or for those looking for something more personalized.
|
|
|
|
stepoff
92 Posts |
Posted - 06/10/2011 : 21:43:21
|
| You guys really take this stuff serious. Let's keep 10u baseball in perspective. |
|
|
|
baseballRus
126 Posts |
Posted - 06/10/2011 : 22:24:47
|
quote:
Originally posted by doubleday
Thanks for the info Suwannee dad; a few more facts to consider. The Hurricanes are the top ranked team in the COUNTRY based on USSSA Power Rankings in AAA. They have played 643, North Cobb, Will Park as well as the Longhorns. Those are some of the strongest teams the southeast has to offer. I agree with ECB in what to look for from teams. Keep looking at wins and losses until you see your son not make his High School team because he doesn't have the fundamentals of the game. Go to both web sites and see what these guys do with talent. Visit http://www.eteamz.com/academycougars/ and http://www.leaguelineup.com/thecanes These teams will be THE teams that will compete with the very best that East Cobb has to offer at the upper age groups. These programs provide everyone alternatives if East Cobb is not close, too expensive or for those looking for something more personalized.
We started this year talking about the Canes and I guess we'll end it talking about the Canes. They definitely have the best PR staff in town!! |
|
|
|
suwaneedad11
84 Posts |
Posted - 06/10/2011 : 22:30:06
|
| Just for the record I am not arguing the fact on the development of players out of the GA Hurricanes and 643DP programs just to be clear. |
|
|
|
itsbaseballtime
348 Posts |
Posted - 06/12/2011 : 21:47:11
|
The 10u GA Major State Championship was a a great place to measure teams.
6-8 weeks left in Travel season.
How do the teams at 10u Major stack up now in your opinions?
|
Edited by - itsbaseballtime on 06/13/2011 08:41:28 |
|
|
| |
Topic |
|
Topic Locked
