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thepiccs
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 Posted - 04/23/2011 : 07:52:09
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Thanks to the coaches for putting together Saturday's Round Robbin at Legion Field in Alpharetta. My understanding is their will be four very good teams consisting of 6-4-3 Cougars, RR Grey, JCS Jackhammers and team Georgia.
3 of the above 4 teams received a Honorable Mention in the last (March 28, 2011) Travel Ball Select 14U National Rankings. Should be fun! |
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TGDeion8
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Posted - 04/24/2011 : 15:29:00
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| thepiccs- which 3 teams were named as honorable mentions? |
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diamonddad
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Posted - 04/24/2011 : 20:48:14
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| The 6-4-3 DP Cougars, Georgia Roadrunners Grey, and the JCS Jackhammers. |
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dmb350
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Posted - 04/24/2011 : 20:53:17
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| JCS, RR grey and 643 were listed in Travel Ball Selects list for national 14U majors/elite rankings. if you've got a membership to their site you can look it up. It came out last week. |
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LBJames6
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Posted - 04/24/2011 : 22:13:57
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| What do you guys think the next rankings will look like? As far as Georgia teams go i think there are at least 2-3 teams other than RR Blue and the Astros that deserve a top 25 bid |
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dmb350
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Posted - 04/25/2011 : 11:00:29
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IMO, after watching these teams play each other for the past couple of months that the list looks like this:
Astros
RR blue
The rest in no particular order because I've seen almost every one of these teams play more than once and it's anyone's game on any given day. The biggest thing separating these teams below from the Astros and RR Blue is week in and week out consistency.
ECB Tigers (have beaten both the Astros and RR Blue this year in bracket play)
JCS Jackhammers (beat 6-4-3 and ECB Tigers in bracket play and played the Astros and RR Blue close in bracket play)
RR Grey super tough team on any day. Had the Astros beat 2 weeks ago and got a bad call and lost It. Beat some good teams this year also. Always there on Sunday late.
6-4-3 Cougars always tough and went to the championship game in the Triple Crown and lost to RR Blue but only by 3.
Team GA these guys just recently jumped into the mix. Very good team and will be there late on Sundays too.
There may be some others but these are the teams I see every week going deep into bracket play and spanking everyone else during pool play. If you're talking top 25 then sure anyone of these teams should be considered but if you go top 10 then only the Astros and RR Blue should be there right now. Things change soon with high school ball ending so we'll just have to wait and see. |
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walkoff
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Posted - 04/25/2011 : 16:00:10
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dmb350-agree with you
Astros-clear #1 and getting 4 or 5 Impact guys from High School soon
RR Blue-clear #2 the 0-2 record VS Astros hurts
Tigers, Jackhammers, RR Grey, 6-4-3, Team GA can beat anybody but may lack depth to win MAJOR tournaments.
Tornados will be showing up soon and they are good
Astro Invitational this weekend looks like a great one and SUPER NIT the end of May has some great out of state teams coming in.
Let the fun begin |
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noerrors
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Posted - 04/25/2011 : 18:11:16
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| Doesn't have to be a run rule every game. A win is a win. |
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LBJames6
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Posted - 04/25/2011 : 22:22:12
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well said noerrors. a win is a win no matter how close. i think i have to give an advantage to 643 and Team GA. Team Ga beat JCS 13-0 in the round robin and looked impressive. They have also beaten RR Grey and the East Cobb Titans. Tigers seem to be inconsistent along with JCS. 643 had a good win against Team GA in the Back to School Brawl so it looks like they are finding their form. As others have said, the game should change with HS players coming back.
1. Astros
2. RR Blue
3. 643 or Team GA
4. RR Grey or Tigers
5. ECB Titans or JCS |
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dmb350
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Posted - 04/26/2011 : 09:32:17
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Can't say at this point I would disagree with any of those statements but just 3 weeks ago 6-4-3 was struggling and Team GA has only really beat 1 decent team in tournament play (RR Grey). ECB Titans dont count because they haven't beat anyone on that list in bracket yet. Pool play doesn't matter.
I would like to point out that the "scrimmage" this past weekend was approached just as that by JCS and they had many players playing positions that they wouldn't normally play in when in tournament play. They also only pitched their top guys for 1 or 2 innings each all day. Every single player was used as a pitcher just to give them a chance to work on their stuff for pool games later in the season. None of those guys would have normally pitched against the caliber of teams at the scrimmage in tournament play. Again, it was a supposed to be a scrimmage and that's how it was approached by JCS. I will say this, JCS had a bad day on top of all that also. |
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dmb350
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Posted - 04/26/2011 : 09:46:45
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| I'm gonna make 1 more excuse for JCS then I'm dropping the matter. JCS was also the only team that played 3 games on Sat. arriving at 10:30am and left at 10:30pm with the last game played aginst Team GA who showed up and played 1 game against JCS at the end of a long day. I'm done. We had a bad day. It happens. Everyone else did look very good on Sat. as expected. |
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Moses
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Posted - 04/26/2011 : 12:09:09
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| First lets not forget that JCS did play 3 Games on Saturday ! It was by there choice I do believe , just the same it was there third game . For the record TG still had kids in high school who werent there and the young man who pitched the last inning has'nt pitched a game for TG . I'm not sure anyone has seen the best they have to offer just yet . That said I'm not sure we have seen the best a lot of these teams have to offer . High school is over and we shall all have a chance to see who's got what.I believe some of the top teams are just warming up |
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oldmanmj
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Posted - 04/26/2011 : 12:38:55
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| High School coming to an end does change the outlook for many teams. I am agreeing with the statements made above. The Invitational this weekend will show out teams, their depth and with JV ball done, some Varsity hold outs ending this week if they don't make playoffs can change the playing field quickly. Astros seem to be the team to beat with RR Blue and everyone else chasing. It is going to be a great summer season. |
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diamonddad
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Posted - 04/26/2011 : 13:13:24
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Originally posted by dmb350
I'm gonna make 1 more excuse for JCS then I'm dropping the matter. JCS was also the only team that played 3 games on Sat. arriving at 10:30am and left at 10:30pm with the last game played aginst Team GA who showed up and played 1 game against JCS at the end of a long day. I'm done. We had a bad day. It happens. Everyone else did look very good on Sat. as expected.
I would have just left it that it was a scrimmage and, by that "baseball" definition, most of the people that read this message board would have understood that the intent was not to win these games, but to get specific individuals playing time at different positions in a simulated game environment. Instead, by making excuses it looks like you are defending something that doesn't need defending. Everyone who is familiar with the 14U majors teams in this area knows that the JCS Jackhammers are a well coached team with quality players. That should be enough to stand on its own and doesn't require any explanations in my book! |
Edited by - diamonddad on 04/26/2011 18:19:51 |
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diamonddad
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Posted - 04/26/2011 : 14:49:36
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Originally posted by walkoff
dmb350-agree with you
Astros-clear #1 and getting 4 or 5 Impact guys from High School soon
RR Blue-clear #2 the 0-2 record VS Astros hurts
Tigers, Jackhammers, RR Grey, 6-4-3, Team GA can beat anybody but may lack depth to win MAJOR tournaments.
Tornados will be showing up soon and they are good
Astro Invitational this weekend looks like a great one and SUPER NIT the end of May has some great out of state teams coming in.
Let the fun begin
I have to agree that until the RRs beat the Astros they are the clear #2. The Astros' wins of 2-1 and 3-2 certainly do not suggest that the margin between these two teams is as much as people on this web site sometimes make it sound, but I do have to agree that the Astros have managed to find ways to win and that's what counts! If I remember correctly, last year was a very similar situation as the Astros beat the RRs three times early in the season, but the RRs were able to come back with three wins at the end. We'll have to wait and see if they can do it again this year.
I also find it interesting that when comparing these two teams I always hear someone stating that the Astros should be stronger when the high school guys return. In response to these statements I ask, "Do you honestly think that the RRs are not in a similar situation?" They may not have as many high school players returning, but they have had 4-5 impact players of their own that have not been playing due to various injuries. Two of which are dominating starting pitchers that have yet to throw in a game this season and few more whose offensive contributions have been limited to pinch hitting with very little field time.
The point I am trying to make is that the players that are not currently playing with their teams (Astros and RRs) are all "impact players" that can make a difference in their respective positions at any time during a game. Quite honestly, if they weren't we would be seeing people posting about them regularly. With that said, I don't see how the argument of how getting back a few players is going to swing the momentum one way or another. Clearly both teams have the ability to produce a dominating left or right handed pitcher as well as incredible hitters and great fielders. Where the rubber meets the road is how well these players perform in a given situation. To date, the Astros clearly have been better in this regards and it's now up to RRs to step up and improve in this area if they want to be considered to be the best team in Georgia, the Southeast, or even the country. Just my two cents worth...
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dmb350
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Posted - 04/26/2011 : 19:29:22
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Diamondad,
Truth is, I was defending lol. My son plays for JCS and to be honest we were a little embarrassed with the boys performance on Sat. So yes, I was jokingly making excuses at the end to make lite of the "day from hell" as my son referred to it. :)
As to all of your other observations especially regarding the Astros/RR and high school players, I couldn't agree more. The only real impact those players have is regarding the depth of the team. Both the Astros and RR Blue have plenty enough benched talent to roll through local tournaments. The added muscle is only really needed once they get to the national tourneys. |
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TGDeion8
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Posted - 04/27/2011 : 09:32:37
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| this weekend should be a good test for all teams. with the Astro Invitiational and the Astros now coming to play, we will see most of the true MAJOR teams can compete with eachother with a couple AAA mixed in. |
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dmb350
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Posted - 04/27/2011 : 14:37:45
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| Unfortunately JCS couldnt get in. It filled up early and quick. They were on the wait list but no one dropped out. Too bad, it's going to be a great tournament. Good luck to everyone in it. |
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