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Gwinnett
791 Posts |
 Posted - 03/28/2011 : 14:26:00
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11u MAJOR
1. ECB Titans
2. 643 Cougars
3. Elite Gamers Red
4. East Cobb Longhorns
5. East Alabama Baseball AL
6. East Cobb Braves
7. East Cobb Rays
8. East Cobb Yankees
9. ECB Stars
10. Georgia Grays
I'll say EC Longhorns and 643 in the ship without looking at pool bracket. Longhorns winning it all! |
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Spartan4
913 Posts |
Posted - 03/28/2011 : 15:09:20
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| Thanks for the vote of confidence Gwinnett!!! We appreciate it, but I for one just hope we play better than last time we were on the field!! |
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whos your daddy
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Posted - 03/28/2011 : 16:44:14
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| I WOULD LOVE TO SEE THE BRAVES vs. LONGHORNS WHAT A GAME THET WILL BE. |
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tae281
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Posted - 03/29/2011 : 00:16:43
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Originally posted by Gwinnett
11u MAJOR
1. ECB Titans
2. 643 Cougars
3. Elite Gamers Red
4. East Cobb Longhorns
5. East Alabama Baseball AL
6. East Cobb Braves
7. East Cobb Rays
8. East Cobb Yankees
9. ECB Stars
10. Georgia Grays
I'll say EC Longhorns and 643 in the ship without looking at pool bracket. Longhorns winning it all!
LOL! We need to worry about being able to compete with 643 and Gamers before worrying about a ship appearance. Thankfully, everyone will advance in this one. Stars and Titans have been really playing well, Titans won the Triple Crown tournament 2 weeks ago and the Stars made the deepest run of any east cobb team at super nit.
This one will be like everyone's final four bracket, teams you think won't be there and some Cinderella teams will be. |
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Gwinnett
791 Posts |
Posted - 03/29/2011 : 09:21:59
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It ought to be real good! I think we may have the weekend off and will come watch. A few teams I haven't seen play yet this year.
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Originally posted by tae281
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Originally posted by Gwinnett
11u MAJOR
1. ECB Titans
2. 643 Cougars
3. Elite Gamers Red
4. East Cobb Longhorns
5. East Alabama Baseball AL
6. East Cobb Braves
7. East Cobb Rays
8. East Cobb Yankees
9. ECB Stars
10. Georgia Grays
I'll say EC Longhorns and 643 in the ship without looking at pool bracket. Longhorns winning it all!
LOL! We need to worry about being able to compete with 643 and Gamers before worrying about a ship appearance. Thankfully, everyone will advance in this one. Stars and Titans have been really playing well, Titans won the Triple Crown tournament 2 weeks ago and the Stars made the deepest run of any east cobb team at super nit.
This one will be like everyone's final four bracket, teams you think won't be there and some Cinderella teams will be.
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prestont
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Posted - 03/29/2011 : 09:38:57
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Lets just hope that Mother Nature doesn't have a replay of last weekend.
I sure hope the Atlanta meteorologists are wrong this week! Wouldn't be the first time they were off with the weather forecast 
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Spartan4
913 Posts |
Posted - 03/29/2011 : 10:38:43
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Originally posted by prestont
Lets just hope that Mother Nature doesn't have a replay of last weekend.
I sure hope the Atlanta meteorologists are wrong this week! Wouldn't be the first time they were off with the weather forecast
Seriously!! A weatherman has to be the perfect job!! |
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BravesFan
533 Posts |
Posted - 04/01/2011 : 09:01:37
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How were the fields last night? Heard they were on the brink of canceling last nights games, must have been really cold out there. The major group is probably the most balanced it has been in years, scores were low and games were close (except for one shut out) and to me that's a good thing.
Another great round of games tonight, the gamers and EC Titans will be one to watch. Anybody know who this east Alabama team is? |
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BravesFan
533 Posts |
Posted - 04/02/2011 : 19:37:20
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The Titans/Gamers ended up being a 1 run game, east alabama got bamboozled by the Braves. There were some interesting bracket games too, Stars vs. Grays and 643 vs. EC Rays. Surprisingly, both games were lopsided. Longhorns have a typical trap game vs. the Titans, better not take them lightly.
Looks like the Rays will get another crack at the Braves, can they pull out the big upset?? This should be a barn burner tomorrow, someone write back and give a synopsis please. |
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Gwinnett
791 Posts |
Posted - 04/03/2011 : 18:43:54
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| Congrats, Tae and the Longhorns I knew you would do it! Look like it was a fight all the way to the end??? Can we get a membership...lol |
Edited by - Gwinnett on 04/03/2011 19:51:13 |
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Jacked-up
59 Posts |
Posted - 04/03/2011 : 19:19:07
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| Longhorns take the ship!!!! |
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gafan
66 Posts |
Posted - 04/03/2011 : 20:04:52
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| surprised there is no chatter about the umpire/coach/catcher/pitcher issue that happened in one of the games today... very interesting. |
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Gwinnett
791 Posts |
Posted - 04/03/2011 : 20:40:58
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| gafan, please do share what you saw. I kinda heard through others. Can't wait till it comes out on here....lol |
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Jacked-up
59 Posts |
Posted - 04/03/2011 : 22:38:21
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Why can the EC Braves modify the pitchers mound before they pitch? Not in-between innings, but literally before their pitcher takes the mound (half inning)...Their coach came out and poured water on the mound. Did it MULTIPLE TIMES !!! Pretty sure that is against the rules....
The end result was that they loss to the ECB Longhorns.... |
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Spartan4
913 Posts |
Posted - 04/03/2011 : 23:14:24
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| This was just my point of view but the umpire accused the coaches from a particular team of telling a catcher to not catch a fastball so it could hit the umpire. One of our parents has it on video and that isn't the case, the ball tipped the glove and the kid fell back trying to catch it. Having said that, this particular team argued EVERY SINGLE CALL AND EVERY OTHER PITCH. Appealed our team missing 2 bases and one appeal that we left early while tagging up. The head coach from this team walked out on the field and did a complete lap around the mound never speaking to the pitcher while staring at the umpire the entire time! I can't think of a reason to do this other than to show the umpire up. This is the kind of stuff that most coaches would NEVER do and the ones that do it aren't reprimanded for, arguing is one thing but putting on a show is another and pretty ridiculous. I was extremely disappointed in two things that occurred during this fiasco, one was the opposing coach removed his players from the field and said we will just quit then. Only to have the game restart after a lengthy argument, I don't understand how you can quit, scream and carry on going so far as to have a fellow coach physically hold you back and then "cool down" and decide to play?? Quitting is quitting!!! Also, while the umpires were CLEARLY extremely inconsistent for several games after a coach complained and carried on for 30 minutes the TD came down and made our umpires switch with another crew from another field!! Does this mean next time we are unhappy with a call or a couple calls we can pull our boys from the field, scream and holler, complain to the TD and get some new officials?? Who is really in charge on the field? I would like to add the 2 men who took over did a very good job calling the game, when officials make stern calls in a timely matter it makes them a little harder to argue with IMO. |
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gafan
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Posted - 04/03/2011 : 23:29:58
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| I heard both sides of this story...but since I was only an outsider I can't comment as to who was right/wrong... would like to hear what the actual outcome was... I know it took over 30 minutes to get everyone calmed down and the game restarted and I know the umps did not finish that game... but I think they were the umps in the championship game in AAA and did a great job in that game. |
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tae281
447 Posts |
Posted - 04/04/2011 : 09:21:11
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Originally posted by Jacked-up
Why can the EC Braves modify the pitchers mound before they pitch? Not in-between innings, but literally before their pitcher takes the mound (half inning)...Their coach came out and poured water on the mound. Did it MULTIPLE TIMES !!! Pretty sure that is against the rules....
The end result was that they loss to the ECB Longhorns....
In all fairness, they did ask if we wanted the same thing done but our pitchers didn't have an issue with it so we never asked for it to be done.
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ecbpappi
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Posted - 04/04/2011 : 09:43:12
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Originally posted by gafan
I heard both sides of this story...but since I was only an outsider I can't comment as to who was right/wrong... would like to hear what the actual outcome was... I know it took over 30 minutes to get everyone calmed down and the game restarted and I know the umps did not finish that game... but I think they were the umps in the championship game in AAA and did a great job in that game.
This is just a sad situation, as coaches, they need to set an example for these young men and show them to keep their cool even if they feel like the chips are stacked against them. Every team will have situations where they feel calls don't go there way but you cannot show up umpires and expect that it'll get any better as the game goes on. I heard the fans were worse then the coaches though, almost a riot was going on and that can't happen. I'm all for a coach protecting his players but this was clearly a case of coaches/fans vs. an umpire.
Also, the umpire has got to know that the situation was already stressed and even if he felt that way he should of just kept his mouth shut and played on. It was sad for the 10/11 yr old kids to see grown adults acting in such a way, this is just a baseball game and there will be 50 more to come this year. There was no right in this situation, just wrong all around, jmho |
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GA Grays
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Posted - 04/04/2011 : 09:51:41
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| Congrats to the Longhorns on their win. You guys played great. The umpire with his remark questioned the character of my kids and coaches saying we did that intentionally. With that being said I would not share a field with that gentleman and neither would my boys. The lap around the mound was in protest to the umpires poor calling and was not by the head coach but the pitching coach. I am the head coach and I will take responsibility for pulling my kids until the tournament director came. Spartan if you have a problem it's unfortunate. The outcome of the game or the calls are not the issue because we did not score a run so we could not have won that game. The issue is another gentleman insinuating that an adult would tell an 11 year old kid to throw a baseball at him. If that accusation would have been at you and you would not have felt that your character was put into question then I am the first to admit you control your emotions better than I can. Bottom line is, that this gentleman never had control of the game, and could have easily tossed the pitching coach or myself and he would have been justified in doing so. The guy is simply too sensitive to be an umpire, or should I say he's too insensitive. Again, congrats to you guys great game and tournament. And I can assure you I don't teach my kids to quit. We teach life lessons through baseball and this was a vehicle for a life lesson learned. How many times have you seen umpires removed from a field? I have never seen it. The gentleman should not have said what he said, even if he thought it. When he said it, it validated a couple of items for me. I spoke to my kids taught them their lesson and we will move forward from there. Again, if you think I was wrong that's unfortunate. And for the record I was never held back by my coaches. We did have to restrain a coach who was being yelled at by the umpire, that same umpire apologized for yelling at him and we got by that episode. Again, you are entitled to your opinion but remember what they say about opinions. Again, congrats to the Longhorns on a great tournament. |
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tae281
447 Posts |
Posted - 04/04/2011 : 11:12:49
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D'Wayne,
Hopefully that is something we never see again, I was on your side of the field when the umpire came over and said that the pitch hitting him wasn't an accident. I was in shock that he would say such a thing when we have on tape that the ball was deflected off the catchers glove and into the umpire. There must have been 200 people watching and I think they all knew it was an accident, I have never seen or heard of an umpire getting pulled from a game so that was strange in itself. |
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Spartan4
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Posted - 04/04/2011 : 12:04:59
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| GA Grays, I wasn't really passing judgement as the reason I don't even attempt to coach anymore is I have an extreme low tolerance for umpires. I don't feel their job is anywhere near tough enough to where incompetence is justified. The umpires were the talk of the game before ours and our fans thought the umpiring was poor at best as well. As far as taking the kids off the field I have seen that several times, the umpire was the one who walked over to our fence and said they have quit. My question above is once a team forfeits isn't that a done deal, apparently you never said the word forfeit so I didn't know the particulars. Umpiring was horrible and I agree with you 100% the umpire was completely in the wrong for accusing your staff of instructing the pitcher to do that, we have the video and the catcher did nothing wrong! My nephew was in between your coaches and the umpires and he ran wide open to get away from that situation, and I am not sure if you had it to over again it would be so heated. Just a bad example for 11U kids IMO, but I'm not exactly the one to preach being calm with umpires! I haven't seen your team act that way before and I'm pretty sure we wont see it again, your team has been fun to play in the past and your boys are as talented as anybody around. Regarding the sensitivity of the umpire, I am still yet to understand why people who cannot take criticism become umpires. Half of the players, coaches, and fans will think you are wrong 100% of the time! It is the nature of the beast, the best coach I have ever been around used to tell umpires, "if you can't take the heat don't jump in a frying pan!!" A TD removing a set of umpires is rare to say the least, maybe it has to do with having too many travel teams to have decent umpires at all the games? |
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Jacked-up
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Posted - 04/04/2011 : 13:02:45
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Originally posted by tae281
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Originally posted by Jacked-up
Why can the EC Braves modify the pitchers mound before they pitch? Not in-between innings, but literally before their pitcher takes the mound (half inning)...Their coach came out and poured water on the mound. Did it MULTIPLE TIMES !!! Pretty sure that is against the rules....
The end result was that they loss to the ECB Longhorns....
In all fairness, they did ask if we wanted the same thing done but our pitchers didn't have an issue with it so we never asked for it to be done.
My real intent of this post is if a rule was violated. A field at the Super NIT had no slope, hard as a rock, and yet no one tried to fix it. Does a team have the right to change the field during a half inning, between innings, or ever? I understand if there is a health or safety risk but not because a player doesn't like the feel of it...If that is the case, every team should bring a rake, shovel, water, etc.... ECB is suppose to have the BEST fields in the state...
If a team likes small ball, can they change the slope of the base lines to roll in????
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ecbpappi
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Posted - 04/04/2011 : 13:49:24
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Originally posted by Jacked-up
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Originally posted by tae281
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Originally posted by Jacked-up
Why can the EC Braves modify the pitchers mound before they pitch? Not in-between innings, but literally before their pitcher takes the mound (half inning)...Their coach came out and poured water on the mound. Did it MULTIPLE TIMES !!! Pretty sure that is against the rules....
The end result was that they loss to the ECB Longhorns....
In all fairness, they did ask if we wanted the same thing done but our pitchers didn't have an issue with it so we never asked for it to be done.
My real intent of this post is if a rule was violated. A field at the Super NIT had no slope, hard as a rock, and yet no one tried to fix it. Does a team have the right to change the field during a half inning, between innings, or ever? I understand if there is a health or safety risk but not because a player doesn't like the feel of it...If that is the case, every team should bring a rake, shovel, water, etc.... ECB is suppose to have the BEST fields in the state...
If a team likes small ball, can they change the slope of the base lines to roll in????
There is no rules violations that I can tell, it's no different then in the majors when the grounds crew comes out to drag the field. They also work on the mound too |
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ecbbraves
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Posted - 04/04/2011 : 14:43:04
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Originally posted by Jacked-up
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Originally posted by tae281
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Originally posted by Jacked-up
Why can the EC Braves modify the pitchers mound before they pitch? Not in-between innings, but literally before their pitcher takes the mound (half inning)...Their coach came out and poured water on the mound. Did it MULTIPLE TIMES !!! Pretty sure that is against the rules....
The end result was that they loss to the ECB Longhorns....
In all fairness, they did ask if we wanted the same thing done but our pitchers didn't have an issue with it so we never asked for it to be done.
My real intent of this post is if a rule was violated. A field at the Super NIT had no slope, hard as a rock, and yet no one tried to fix it. Does a team have the right to change the field during a half inning, between innings, or ever? I understand if there is a health or safety risk but not because a player doesn't like the feel of it...If that is the case, every team should bring a rake, shovel, water, etc.... ECB is suppose to have the BEST fields in the state...
If a team likes small ball, can they change the slope of the base lines to roll in????
Jacked-up, you seem to be real interested in this non-issue. Here's what really happened(even though you were obviously there):
Our pitcher that was on the mound at the time takes a long stride and his plant foot was clearly sliding when landing because the dirt had become extremely dry and packed over the long weekend. Rather than allow this 11yr old to risk a sprained ankle or worse, our manager poored 2 small bottled waters onto the landing spot and raked it over. The same was done a second time in the 2nd inning. This took all of 1 minute in a game with a 2:10 time limit. Tae's pitchers were not striding as far out so they didn't have a problem. If they had, something would have been done to make it right for them as well.
There are no rules against any such actions and the even the suggestion of such is quite silly. I highly doubt that a few ounces of water gave anyone an advantage. Been to many high school, college and pro games where a field crew worked on a part of the playing field during a game for one reason or another. In this case it just happened to be done by a coach since games played by 10/11yr old boys don't get a dedicated field crew on hand.
This was a good game played by two teams of talented young boys. Let the discussion be about that rather than convoluted garbage dreamed up by a crazy bystander.
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ecball
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Posted - 04/04/2011 : 15:25:54
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Jacked-up,
I poured two small bottles of water to soften it up so the pitcher could land and not slip on concrete after each pitch. If you are concerend about a rules violation....a coach can ask the ump if he can repair the mound if there is an issue and the ump agrees. I did just that and I went one step further and asked Tae if he wanted it fixed when his pitcher was on the mound. Tae's pitcher didn't need it fixed because he didn't stride out as far so he wasn't sliding. The fields had taken a lot of water during the week and it was a dirt mound. There were other issues with the mound for both teams in the game before and there was no advantage gained as it was done for the safety of the boy. The pitcher was clearly slipping on his landing foot which would have eventually pulled his groin. I have coached several hundred games and have never done this so I wasn't looking for the "ole bottled water on the pitching mound advantage"....
There was several things that went on that day that made a mockery out of youth sports but pouring water on the mound wasn't one of them. |
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rudeboy
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Posted - 04/04/2011 : 16:40:29
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| Good umpires should not be seen! My question is.... why would umpire think a team was trying to hit him or what have you unless he thought a team had reason to? Guess what, we have a lot of evenly matched teams this year! Any given tournament! Any given game! And its real early in the season. |
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