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Infinity
33 Posts |
Posted - 01/20/2011 : 18:27:15
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Besides the Astros and Titans, how do the other EC 16U teams compare? Are they all major level or are some AAA level? |
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RZENTKO
112 Posts |
Posted - 01/25/2011 : 14:44:35
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aaa |
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Gold Glove
129 Posts |
Posted - 01/26/2011 : 09:41:16
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quote: Originally posted by RZENTKO
aaa
If that's the case, then there will only be 5 Major Teams in the area:
6-4-3 Team Elite Team Georgia ECB Titans ECB Astros
But that is not the case; Yankees and Pride have a number of strong players on their team as well. The Patriots and Saints have a number of players that will play on their varsity team this spring. So as always, the answers lie between the white lines. |
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gabandit
25 Posts |
Posted - 01/26/2011 : 21:01:20
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Atlanta Blue Jays are Major |
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bballman
1432 Posts |
Posted - 01/27/2011 : 09:37:47
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I think by the time you reach HS, the Major, AAA, AA, etc all go out the window. My son is 17 and I don't remember playing in any tournaments since 15 with a Major or AAA level attached to it. Are there some teams that are better than others? Sure, but I don't know about the Major, AAA level stuff. Then again, I'm not sure we have played in a USSSA tournament since son was 15. We have played in a couple of 3Crown locally, usually just to get warmed up for the season. Mostly the Perfect Game tournaments and then showcase type tournaments at colleges. |
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beanball
222 Posts |
Posted - 01/27/2011 : 12:55:27
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I tend to agree with BBall about classifications. But if you're going classify Team GA and Team Elite in the catagory with the Astros and Titans then you must add every ECB team and other teams like Nelson baseball, Home Plate, NG Barrons and a half dozen others. |
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Gold Glove
129 Posts |
Posted - 01/27/2011 : 23:42:52
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quote: Originally posted by beanball
I tend to agree with BBall about classifications. But if you're going classify Team GA and Team Elite in the catagory with the Astros and Titans then you must add every ECB team and other teams like Nelson baseball, Home Plate, NG Barrons and a half dozen others.
Beanball..didn't you read what I said...the other teams at ECB are right there with the rest of the pack, not quite on the same level as 6-4-3, Astros, TGBA, TE and Titans but certainly not "AAA" (agree we haven't used that term since 14U)...don't think Nelson is there yet, but will be soon...Home Plate would be if they didn't dilute their talent between 3-4 teams....NG Barons are not the same without their Roswell HS players (many of which went to ECB Pride) and who are the half dozen others? |
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beanball
222 Posts |
Posted - 01/28/2011 : 09:56:29
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I just don't think TGBA or TE are at the same level with Astros, Titans or 6-4-3. They'll have to prove it on the field. My opinion is they're right there with the rest of the pack. |
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bballman
1432 Posts |
Posted - 01/28/2011 : 14:32:33
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Don't forget, 6-4-3 won the PG 15u World Woodbat Championship last year. They had to have beaten a lot of very good teams from all over the country to do that. That accomplishment alone would put them up there with the Astros and Titans. |
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Gold Glove
129 Posts |
Posted - 01/30/2011 : 11:48:42
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quote: Originally posted by beanball
I just don't think TGBA or TE are at the same level with Astros, Titans or 6-4-3. They'll have to prove it on the field. My opinion is they're right there with the rest of the pack.
TGBA record since 14U against those three is 3-4-1. Sounds like they have proven they are in the same league. Team Elite picked up half a dozen former Astros, 6-4-3 and Titans, so IMO they are there too. But beanball is right, they must prove it on the field.
bballman is correct, 6-4-3 had an outstanding year last year and improved themselves talent wise. Hopefully this won't mess with the great chemistry they had last year. We all have seen what happens when you have 18 superstars and only 9 positions.
It will be a great year. |
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beanball
222 Posts |
Posted - 01/31/2011 : 01:41:42
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Do those three wnis include the two this fall vs the 14U Astros:) I don't recall any wins vs the Titans last year. The fact of the matter is Aaron & DOug are great guys and coaches.
And at this point its really not that important who the "Best Teams" are. the focus for us is to get noticed and we'll be playing mostly showcases this year and USSSA & even Triple crown are really just warm-ups and getting work in. Lets see who go deep into WWBA and CABA and which players are getting prepared for the next level.
Good Luck to all!
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kehndog
88 Posts |
Posted - 02/03/2011 : 22:28:19
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Its pretty tough to include the 16U EC Astros in any discussion about 16U. They play 17U and 18U teams all summer ... and they're the top 17U team in the PG rankings. Its nearly the same for the 16U EC Titans ... they don't play many area 16U teams either.
Net - net ... just like the comments above regarding throwing out the notion of Major and AAA in the upper age groups, its also appropriate to group the 16U-18U groups as "prep teams" and throw out the age brackets. |
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aj94
182 Posts |
Posted - 04/05/2011 : 12:52:32
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quote: Originally posted by beanball
I tend to agree with BBall about classifications. But if you're going classify Team GA and Team Elite in the catagory with the Astros and Titans then you must add every ECB team and other teams like Nelson baseball, Home Plate, NG Barrons and a half dozen others.
I can assure you that every other ECB team and those other teams you mentioned will not be on the level of Team Elite. |
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crackedbats
160 Posts |
Posted - 04/06/2011 : 16:20:26
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notice you dont see the Astros playing 643 at most tournaments held at ECB? Wonder why? |
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w.whambold
6 Posts |
Posted - 05/10/2011 : 12:41:33
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quote: Originally posted by crackedbats
notice you dont see the Astros playing 643 at most tournaments held at ECB? Wonder why?
I firmly believe that neither was intentionally avoiding the other. tournaments sometimes seem to work that way.
I do recall someone telling me that they actually played a game during the week once, where one team was working their pitchers (switching up alot) while the other was going for blood and broken bones... but i wasn't there, so i can't honestly say what happened. wouldn't stand up in court.
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Gamer64
17 Posts |
Posted - 05/16/2011 : 16:15:44
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The Summer Season has officially begun. the 16U 6-4-3 team made a very impressive showing in the 18U Triple Crown Event this weekend making to the Championship game. The 16U Yankees picked up where they left off this past fall, going 5-0 and winning the 16U Gold Bracket. Should be great summer season. |
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mantle11
6 Posts |
Posted - 05/16/2011 : 19:07:06
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The 16u Astros will dominate the 16u bracket as well as the 17,18 yr old brackets. All of their starters are still in high school playoffs as of now and they have serious arms. The 16u Titans are loaded as well. 6-4-3 will not play the Astros many times this summer and have been offered a chance to have a series of games and said no. |
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beanball
222 Posts |
Posted - 06/06/2011 : 05:33:49
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GG:
So I guess TGBA is right up there with the ECB Yankees. Like I said months ago the Astros and 643 are in a league of therre own. Haven't seen Team Elite yet, But TGBA is NOT in that catagory. As much as you would like them to be.
quote: Originally posted by Gold Glove
quote: Originally posted by beanball
I just don't think TGBA or TE are at the same level with Astros, Titans or 6-4-3. They'll have to prove it on the field. My opinion is they're right there with the rest of the pack.
TGBA record since 14U against those three is 3-4-1. Sounds like they have proven they are in the same league. Team Elite picked up half a dozen former Astros, 6-4-3 and Titans, so IMO they are there too. But beanball is right, they must prove it on the field.
bballman is correct, 6-4-3 had an outstanding year last year and improved themselves talent wise. Hopefully this won't mess with the great chemistry they had last year. We all have seen what happens when you have 18 superstars and only 9 positions.
It will be a great year.
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crackedbats
160 Posts |
Posted - 06/07/2011 : 10:04:56
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16u Perfect Game National Rankings-16u ECB Astros ranked # 3 in the 17u Perfect Games National Rankings. ECB Titans #9 and 643 #12
1 Indiana Prospects Indiana Ohio Valley 2 Marucci Elite Louisiana Sun Belt 3 Houston Banditos Black Texas Sun Belt 4 NorCal Baseball California West Coast 5 Dulins Dodgers Tennessee Deep South 6 Canes Baseball Virginia Atlantic Coast 7 Kentucky Baseball Club Kentucky Ohio Valley 8 Ark La Tex Tornado Louisiana Sun Belt 9 East Cobb Titans Georgia Deep South 10 Tidewater Drillers Virginia Atlantic Coast 11 South Florida Elite Black Florida Sunshine 12 6-4-3 DP Academy Georgia Deep South 13 D-Bat Mustangs-McCabe Texas Sun Belt 14 NorCal Valley California West Coast 15 Team Elite Georgia Deep South 16 Carrollwood Gators Florida Sunshine 17 SC Shockwave South Carolina Atlantic Coast 18 Palm Beach County PAL Florida Sunshine 19 Carolina Cubs North Carolina Atlantic Coast 20 Dirtbags North Carolina Atlantic Coast 21 Diamond Devils South Carolina Atlantic Coast 22 Diamond-Simcox Tennessee Deep South 23 Richmond Braves National Virginia Atlantic Coast 24 Tampa Bay Warriors Florida Sunshine 25 Puerto Rico Storm Puerto Rico Sunshine
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Gold Glove
129 Posts |
Posted - 08/05/2011 : 13:02:18
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quote: Originally posted by beanball
I just don't think TGBA or TE are at the same level with Astros, Titans or 6-4-3. They'll have to prove it on the field. My opinion is they're right there with the rest of the pack.
Beanball, I guess I should get the grill fired up so I can get your crow ready to eat: Just as I said in the early summer TGBA would prove to be one of the top teams behind ECB Astros. 42-12 for the summer. Of the 12 losses: No. 2 rated 17U Houston Banditos, No. 3 17U rated 16U ECB Astros, No. 1 15U ECB Astros, 2 other 17U team in PG WWBA (both 1 run losses) highly touted 16U Chet Lemon's Juice (quarter finalist in PG WWBA). Beat 16U Titans in only game, run ruled 16U 6-4-3 and 15U Titans in CABA world series. 11-2 in CABA, outscored opponents 150-45. Not bad for an also ran, huh? |
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bballman
1432 Posts |
Posted - 08/05/2011 : 14:18:22
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Sounds impressive. Wonder why they are not ranked in the top 25 by PG? The new rankings are out today. |
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Gold Glove
129 Posts |
Posted - 08/05/2011 : 14:21:05
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quote: Originally posted by crackedbats
16u Perfect Game National Rankings-16u ECB Astros ranked # 3 in the 17u Perfect Games National Rankings. ECB Titans #9 and 643 #12 2 Marucci Elite Louisiana Sun 9 East Cobb Titans Georgia Deep South 12 6-4-3 DP Academy Georgia Deep 17 SC Shockwave South Carolina 21 Diamond Devils South Carolina
Beanball, By the way 5-2 against these teams in the top 25. |
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