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gausssa
209 Posts |
 Posted - 11/30/2010 : 16:10:31
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| To all, I am working on something very special with the Florida State Director and need everyone's honest opinion about your age group. I need feed back on who you/the people think the top 4 MAJOR teams in Georgia will be this spring. Thanks, i will set back and read!!!! |
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baseballdad10
22 Posts |
Posted - 11/30/2010 : 17:59:52
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#1 - EC Astros
#2 - GA Roadrunners
#3 - EC Braves
These teams have consistently competed for tournament championships. Because there are no more Southern Jaguars or Mill Creek Hawks, the fourth team has not been proven as of yet. I will have to say the Styxx (if Denton plays) because I have not yet seen the "improved" EC 45's or the "new" EC Pride.
I can't wait to hear the very special tournament plans. When will you be able to announce? |
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lottapop
257 Posts |
Posted - 11/30/2010 : 19:15:04
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| Hard to determine who the top 4 teams will be during the offseason. Lots of new faces on all these teams so I don't think anyone will know until the end of April. IMO...these teams will be very competitive, Astros, Homeplate,Roadrunners, 45's and Braves. |
Edited by - lottapop on 11/30/2010 20:24:56 |
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Darnell
40 Posts |
Posted - 12/01/2010 : 09:06:41
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| I agree with Lottapoop on this one. I'm not sure about the order but it may be nice to go with the top 5 so a southside team could be considered. |
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ItsjustLLBBall
119 Posts |
Posted - 12/01/2010 : 09:08:05
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| I think, without playing any real games yet vs real teams, it is way too early to tell. But since we were asked for an opinion I would say right now the way the teams have been set up, RoadRunners, Astros, 45's and Homeplate....No one else sounds remotely close to these four talent wise, but with the understanding that's the reason why the games are played. |
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bball2k10
71 Posts |
Posted - 12/01/2010 : 10:17:19
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I'm not sure about the order but it may be nice to go with the top 5 so a southside team could be considered.
So you're saying a southside team couldn't possibly be in the top 4? I bet the Gamers, Stixx, Home Plate, or Chain would disagree with that.
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getusome3ecb
54 Posts |
Posted - 12/01/2010 : 17:30:39
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The bottom line is the gamers hp chain and gwinnett have no resume to back up there claim until then
astros rr's 45s and braves |
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bball2k10
71 Posts |
Posted - 12/01/2010 : 18:06:08
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top 4 MAJOR teams in Georgia
Aren't the Gwinnett Titans a AAA team? |
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momo
6 Posts |
Posted - 12/01/2010 : 21:55:07
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| So I see William Saunders from the Tampa area is looking for GA teams to come down to his place again. If it's in Plant City it's a must go. He will let you play in the old spring training place of the Reds and he is a great guy to play with.....but then again I could be wrong and yall are talking about someone else.... |
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leftpaw
6 Posts |
Posted - 12/02/2010 : 00:13:10
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1. ECB Astros
2. GA Roadrunners
3. ECB 45's
4. ECB Pride
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lottapop
257 Posts |
Posted - 12/02/2010 : 08:12:30
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Smoke and myself will save you seat right between us in a few months!
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Originally posted by getusome3ecb
The bottom line is the gamers hp chain and gwinnett have no resume to back up there claim until then
astros rr's 45s and braves
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bball2k10
71 Posts |
Posted - 12/02/2010 : 08:53:21
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The bottom line is the gamers hp chain and gwinnett have no resume to back up there claim until then
astros rr's 45s and braves
With all the roster changes the teams make in the off season does last year's "resume" have anything to do with how they'll play this spring? How many of the teams mentioned here have remained largely intact? |
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BigDawg5
16 Posts |
Posted - 12/02/2010 : 09:18:15
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So are you all saying that there are no teams in Gwinnett that can compete or are worth talking about in the top 4 or 5? In most of these chats all I see is EC which not to knock them they do have a few good teams and RR's but no teams from the East or NE side. So where or what tournaments does a team have to play in to get that kind of respect? to have someone say they are a top 4 or 5 team?
We are starting to schedule our spring and would like to hear about tournaments to play in and please don't just list all EC tournaments  |
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LeftyBat
160 Posts |
Posted - 12/02/2010 : 09:54:49
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Originally posted by lottapop
Smoke and myself will save you seat right between us in a few months!
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Originally posted by getusome3ecb
The bottom line is the gamers hp chain and gwinnett have no resume to back up there claim until then
astros rr's 45s and braves
I would put the pride in this equation as well. What have they accomplished? A 1-1 record against the Titans, a loss to MGB Braves?
Certainly not a resume that inspires a top 4 ranking.
My thoughts are that based on previous track record, ECB Astro's Braves and Roadrunners are the only teams that you can realistically believe are FOR SURE top five teams. Until the others show up with their full squad in place and play some games against teams like these are prove they are competitive, you just don't know. This goes for Sharon Springs Baseball, Chain, Gwinnett Titans, EC Pride, EC 45's, EC Titans, Gamers Blue or whatever they call themselves and Home Plate. All of these teams have the potential to be top five teams but until they play in the spring, you just don't know..
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lottapop
257 Posts |
Posted - 12/02/2010 : 10:04:19
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| Slugfest will be the first major tournament of the year and then the Super Nit. After these 2 tournaments you will know where you stack up against other teams. A teams weakness and strengths will be exposed during the month of March and then the coaches can/should be able to prepare their team for the remainder of the year. Keep in mind it's not how you start but how you finish!!!!! |
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TAZ980002
831 Posts |
Posted - 12/02/2010 : 10:37:08
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| BigDawg, I am probably not familiar enough with the current Gwinnett 13u teams to say whether or not they can compete with the top ECB teams. I am familiar enough to know that if one coach could pool the best players from MC (Sig Park), NG, Dacula and Collins Hill together on one Gwinnett team, they could compete with anyone in the state. We tried to do this in the age group behind you guys but it's like people in Gwinnett don't take travel baseball as seriously as they do in East Cobb. The level of commitment to the travel experience is much greater in my opinion by the families that play out of East Cobb. Before anyone else gets too heated about what I've said, there are definitely exceptions outside of ECB, including Gwinnett but overall I think it holds true. |
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SpeedKills
106 Posts |
Posted - 12/02/2010 : 12:55:41
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Originally posted by BigDawg5
So are you all saying that there are no teams in Gwinnett that can compete or are worth talking about in the top 4 or 5? In most of these chats all I see is EC which not to knock them they do have a few good teams and RR's but no teams from the East or NE side. So where or what tournaments does a team have to play in to get that kind of respect? to have someone say they are a top 4 or 5 team?
We are starting to schedule our spring and would like to hear about tournaments to play in and please don't just list all EC tournaments
Last year the ASTROS went to FL 2 times and SC, Won Slugfest and Super NIT, won a tournament in FL also. RR played in ALL the best tournaments that were in the state and went to Battle of the South in Tenn. They won that rain shortned tournament also. Its not where you play its WHO you play to get to the TOP and most of the tournaments are around the Atlanta area and some are out of state. Both the RR and Astros went on to play in the Elite 32 in Disney and to make it there you have to win one or get a bid to play.. As the old saying goes " If you want to be the best you have to beat the best." Thats how you get talked about as being in the top 5. |
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getusome3ecb
54 Posts |
Posted - 12/02/2010 : 17:32:45
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Originally posted by lottapop
Smoke and myself will save you seat right between us in a few months!
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Originally posted by getusome3ecb
The bottom line is the gamers hp chain and gwinnett have no resume to back up there claim until then
astros rr's 45s and braves
I appreciate the seat but we have sat on that ban wagoon and it never as planed but since u are so kind to offer we will save yall two seats at ECB if your team ever comes up that way... Tell smokinfire I said hello
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funnyhop
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Posted - 12/02/2010 : 18:44:36
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Originally posted by SpeedKills
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Originally posted by BigDawg5
So are you all saying that there are no teams in Gwinnett that can compete or are worth talking about in the top 4 or 5? In most of these chats all I see is EC which not to knock them they do have a few good teams and RR's but no teams from the East or NE side. So where or what tournaments does a team have to play in to get that kind of respect? to have someone say they are a top 4 or 5 team?
We are starting to schedule our spring and would like to hear about tournaments to play in and please don't just list all EC tournaments
Last year the ASTROS went to FL 2 times and SC, Won Slugfest and Super NIT, won a tournament in FL also. RR played in ALL the best tournaments that were in the state and went to Battle of the South in Tenn. They won that rain shortned tournament also. Its not where you play its WHO you play to get to the TOP and most of the tournaments are around the Atlanta area and some are out of state. Both the RR and Astros went on to play in the Elite 32 in Disney and to make it there you have to win one or get a bid to play.. As the old saying goes " If you want to be the best you have to beat the best." Thats how you get talked about as being in the top 5.
13U Astros now have a grand total of 3 out of 15 kids from last years' squad and haven't played 1 inning with the new team. RR's probably turned a few over as well and haven't played squat with the new team either.
Silliness abounds!! |
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Pulpwood
11 Posts |
Posted - 12/02/2010 : 19:15:10
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Pulpwood sends out a big thanks to our good friend Bubba at Utrip for finding the pulse of the 13U board. Pulpwood was on the brink of shuttin it down for a couple of months but now that the question is out there Pulpwood’s gotta line it up like this;
1. Astros - like it or not they were the best around last year
2. Roadrunners - same as above but were 2nd best
Next 3
Colt 45's
Homeplate
Braves
Pulpwood thinks that Bubba might want to make it the top 5. Just seems to be too much parity to stop at 4. Now for all this chatter about Hawks, Pride, Titans, Chain, Stixx....Pulpwood says it ain't happenin. Maybe a game here or there but not on Sunday's in the spring when it really matters.
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Marinersfan
57 Posts |
Posted - 12/03/2010 : 09:50:11
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Agreed, Funnyhop. (although I think its 4 of 15 --same difference). The vast majority of the kids that won that Forsyth Slugfest, Atl SuperNIt, Florida Invitational, U-trip State, AAU State, Triple Crown State and on and on and on are other teams this year. So it makes no sense to rank the 13U Astros based on the success of the 12U Astros. I'd rank them in the top tier based on the general quality of the kids on that team, but they don't get the top spot because of last year's team. If they win down in Florida, sweep the Roadrunners and others, win the SuperNIT and win most of their games against older age groups like last year, then they get the top spot. Until then, it is impossible to rank anyone number 1 before any meaningful games are played.
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Originally posted by funnyhop
13U Astros now have a grand total of 3 out of 15 kids from last years' squad and haven't played 1 inning with the new team. RR's probably turned a few over as well and haven't played squat with the new team either.
Silliness abounds!!
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battinglast
58 Posts |
Posted - 12/03/2010 : 10:48:21
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It is a preseason rank, just like they do in college football. Rank your teams by last years results along with roster turnover and fall tournaments, etc.
1. Astros
2. RR
3. Braves
4. Hp/Stixx (too close to call) |
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coachpitch
66 Posts |
Posted - 12/03/2010 : 11:46:40
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gausssa asked who people think the top four teams will be this coming spring. And, as a question like that will always find, it is being answered in a number of different ways. Each post in response - for the most part - shares a different opinion.
One of the reasons I despise the current NCAA football BCS system is that it uses opinion, subjective ideas and conjecture to determine rankings. This is ridiculous. Everyone knows that the best way to determine the best is to let teams play.
That being the case...if gausssa is looking for us to label the best at this point, it’s pretty hard to do. However, for lack of a better process, the best way to consider the best is results and play.
There has been no spring play. Many of these teams have changed over completely since their 12U year. So...what proof do we have? Really, there is only the fall season for proving it on the field, and resume's for teams that are very good EVERY year going back several years. Some are opposed to considering the fall season, but from my vantage point this fall, there were very good teams to get a good feel for who was playing.
So...with that in mind, who would it be?
1.ECB Astros (Hard not to put this team here since they get the premium player picks most years. They may or may not be this good, but their spot must weigh HEAVILY on the last several years and not play this fall at all. This place is fully dependent on their resume' over the years.)
2. Road Runners (This team has repeatedly shown, through the years, to be top caliber. It's continued resume' helps put it here. Not sure about the fall play...if any, but they will certainly be in these top 4.)
3. HP Chili Dogs (Good offensively and good pitching. They qualify here because of resume' over the last several years AND performance this fall.)
4. Stixx Baseball (Over the last two years this team has proven to compete in the top of the state and has competed well nationally - including qualifying for Disney two years in a row. This fall this team - with and without Denton - has competed and won against the teams claimed to be at the top. In addition, they have added two new players that will make their pitching and defense even deeper.)
4.5 ECB 45's...no pun intended The 4.5 means it's hard to really delineate in these top spots. (The 45's don't have as long of a resume' as Astros, H.P. and RR. Neither have they played much this fall.)
4.5 ECB Braves |
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SpeedKills
106 Posts |
Posted - 12/03/2010 : 15:03:25
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13U Astros now have a grand total of 3 out of 15 kids from last years' squad and haven't played 1 inning with the new team. RR's probably turned a few over as well and haven't played squat with the new team either.
Silliness abounds!!
You have a point, but this year the coach will be the same coach from the 13u last year. and most of the kids from last year were replaced by the best that came out to tryout. I can say that the ones that did stay were the better ones and the pickups only makes you wonder who they picked up.. These 2 teams may not have played a game this year but I bet when spring comes a knocking they will be ready.. |
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knucklecurve
171 Posts |
Posted - 12/03/2010 : 15:06:29
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| Marinersfan-I couldn't agree with you more, way too early to rank teams!!! ALL ECB teams have completely new rosters. Even 643 has improved their roster and looked pretty good in the fall. The new ECB Extreme is loaded with pitching and hitting. The ECB Titans really played well in the fall with a new and improved roster. I think the top 5 will look much different come mid March! As for as Gwinnett teams, you need to play in Major tournaments if you want to be in the top. As far as the Gwinnett Titans go, they won't be in the top now that their borrowed players from the fall are gone. |
Edited by - knucklecurve on 12/03/2010 20:59:44 |
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Henry
15 Posts |
Posted - 12/03/2010 : 21:36:28
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As far as the Gwinnett Titans are concerned, they have their full roster returning from fall. Their is only 1 full time player who only played 2 tournaments with us thats not returning. As far as the rest of the teams, one thing is for sure its going to make for a great 2011 season! There will be some suprises on all ends. Good luck to all.quote:
Originally posted by knucklecurve
Marinersfan-I couldn't agree with you more, way too early to rank teams!!! ALL ECB teams have completely new rosters. Even 643 has improved their roster and looked pretty good in the fall. The new ECB Extreme is loaded with pitching and hitting. The ECB Titans really played well in the fall with a new and improved roster. I think the top 5 will look much different come mid March! As for as Gwinnett teams, you need to play in Major tournaments if you want to be in the top. As far as the Gwinnett Titans go, they won't be in the top now that their borrowed players from the fall are gone.
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