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Baseball66
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 Posted - 06/04/2018 : 08:13:53
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I read a recent post about the top 10 teams in Georgia based on TBS. Are these rankings just for the TBS division, based on teams that played in their tournaments? I watched the Triple Crown Division I tournament this weekend and watched 2 rec teams (Buckhead and NYO) beat Kennesaw, 643 Cougars, and Georgia Power. What does this say about these rankings? Does anyone know why Cellblock, South Dekalb Tribe, and some other power houses were not there...this is usually the most competitive tournament of the summer for 12u. Maybe at Cooperstown?
Thanks for the input!
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Punishers
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Posted - 06/04/2018 : 10:58:17
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| Ranking are flawed. Getting beat by rec teams should make every parent and player rethink what is going on. Are they really major? Not being beat by a rec team they not. Just shows how over rated a lot of these teams are. The rec teams train and hone their skill set while others are playing instead of working on their skills and what they find out is they are not as good as they think they are. The objective is to be better than when the season started. If they are not better, then the season was a waste. I know everyone is saying travel is to play more games, but why play more games when you are at the skill level when the season started? Development comes from training not playing. |
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baseball fan 07
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Posted - 06/04/2018 : 17:15:26
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I agree that Buckhead and NYO probably have great programs, but I would also say rankings - which are for fun, come from an entire season not just one wknd. Even stacked college and pro teams can lose playoff games, so I certainly wouldn't expect 12 yr old teams to win every wknd (even if it's to a "rec" team)!!
As far as Cellblock - don't think they've ever played in triple crown so I wouldn't expect them to be there and South Dekalb was on the west coast last week in a Memorial Day tourney, so I'm sure they had the wknd off |
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4holehitter
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Posted - 06/04/2018 : 22:14:02
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I wonder sometimes if some of these people on this site have ever played the game or if they are just ignorant and only see the world through their own "rooting interest"?
I am not sure which is worse, not giving NYO coaches / program credit and their players for one good tournament or taking away credit from the top teams week in and week out who have proven they are the best teams around our area that play. The same less than knowledgeable response we see on this site ( haters in successful teams I guess ) there are no major teams or there are only 2 or 3 in the entire state? I think it's because whoever is commenting has never picked up a baseball and played the game. Or their sons team was not mentioned in the rankings it's opinions... just opinions. But I have seen all these teams play all of them. NYO is a good hitting team period. They might not be as deep on pitching and if they played this schedule, 643 Cougars, Kennesaw and GAP in a row then the results could be 3-0 but it might not but if those same teams throw their aces it's likely week in and week out we would see exactly who they are. If they are the best then they would have earned it but if they are not they might fit in with the top 10 as you guys like to rank them. The tournaments we see are not necessarily perfect. Play 3 to 5 game series and you will see the best team most times. The rec comments about travel ball coaches don't teach fundamentals is ignorant. NYO and Buckhead programs are good and solid programs with good coaches. That has nothing to do what so ever with better development and coaching expertise necessarily. Just a good talent pool. I have seen 643, Kennesaw and GAP coaches for several years. They are as good as you get in 12U coaching around here. NYO played well period. They are good and have good players. Let's just say congrats to them... if they do it 7 - 10 times then they might be the best. By the way no one raked anyone.. Buckhead is good too but GAP never trailed or struggled with them at all. Why? GAP pitched one of their top pitchers which NYO did not see later for whatever the reason. Buckhead maybe used their best against Kennesaw? Bottom line it's about match ups. GOLD, Gainesville and Cellblock clearly all would have been in the mix too but they were not there. You can't get all these teams together at once very often. I just disagree totally with this leading opinion here.. but it's just my opinion. Saying Kennesaw, 643 and GAP don't belong in the rankings. You lost my respect on that one. You don't know baseball IMO. |
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Idiotfest
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Posted - 06/05/2018 : 00:45:38
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Congrats to NYO! I don’t care what you call them...just call them the Triple Crown State Champs.
They earned the title and can play with anyone.
Yes they ran into a stud pitcher in the Brian McCann classic during bracket play...but they can play!
They are a major team by any measure.
Congrats champs! And no my son is not a NYO player... |
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CB17
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Posted - 06/05/2018 : 15:33:16
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| Cellblock will be at the Major State this weekend.Atlanta is a ways for us. Great teams in North Ga. for sure |
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Punishers
688 Posts |
Posted - 06/05/2018 : 19:54:38
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Parent: I just my son's $3000 travel team get beat like an old rug by a rec all-star team!!!!
Me: $3000????
Parent: I could have just played rec and train and still would have $2500 in my pocket.
Me: Yup
Parent: This academy travel ball program is a joke, but I can't eat the $3k i spent already.
Me: They fed you on the development story?
Parent: Sure did. Not seeing the results for the money I paid.
Me: Good luck with the rest of your season. |
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Baseball66
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Posted - 06/06/2018 : 08:47:07
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Originally posted by 4holehitter
I wonder sometimes if some of these people on this site have ever played the game or if they are just ignorant and only see the world through their own "rooting interest"?
I am not sure which is worse, not giving NYO coaches / program credit and their players for one good tournament or taking away credit from the top teams week in and week out who have proven they are the best teams around our area that play. The same less than knowledgeable response we see on this site ( haters in successful teams I guess ) there are no major teams or there are only 2 or 3 in the entire state? I think it's because whoever is commenting has never picked up a baseball and played the game. Or their sons team was not mentioned in the rankings it's opinions... just opinions. But I have seen all these teams play all of them. NYO is a good hitting team period. They might not be as deep on pitching and if they played this schedule, 643 Cougars, Kennesaw and GAP in a row then the results could be 3-0 but it might not but if those same teams throw their aces it's likely week in and week out we would see exactly who they are. If they are the best then they would have earned it but if they are not they might fit in with the top 10 as you guys like to rank them. The tournaments we see are not necessarily perfect. Play 3 to 5 game series and you will see the best team most times. The rec comments about travel ball coaches don't teach fundamentals is ignorant. NYO and Buckhead programs are good and solid programs with good coaches. That has nothing to do what so ever with better development and coaching expertise necessarily. Just a good talent pool. I have seen 643, Kennesaw and GAP coaches for several years. They are as good as you get in 12U coaching around here. NYO played well period. They are good and have good players. Let's just say congrats to them... if they do it 7 - 10 times then they might be the best. By the way no one raked anyone.. Buckhead is good too but GAP never trailed or struggled with them at all. Why? GAP pitched one of their top pitchers which NYO did not see later for whatever the reason. Buckhead maybe used their best against Kennesaw? Bottom line it's about match ups. GOLD, Gainesville and Cellblock clearly all would have been in the mix too but they were not there. You can't get all these teams together at once very often. I just disagree totally with this leading opinion here.. but it's just my opinion. Saying Kennesaw, 643 and GAP don't belong in the rankings. You lost my respect on that one. You don't know baseball IMO.
Very well said. I think that there are some haters on this thread. Anyone who tries to diminish the quality of 643, Kennesaw, Georgia Power, etc is just trying to stir the pot. Lets give credit where credit is due. NYO and Buckhead collectively beat all three 643 teams in the tournament as well as Kennesaw and Georgia Power. The 12u NYO team also won a Ripken tournament as 11s last year so this is no fluke. However, as you stated, a lot has to do with pitching. We were at a tournament last weekend where CG Marucci shut down the #1 seed (NYO) with a pitcher that was untouchable (and I believe he plays on other teams).
This brings up another issue...guns for hire at 12u! I watched the Oconee team bring out a pitcher with a different color hat and no name on his jersey (all the other players had names). I will never have my son play on a team where outside kids are brought in just to get a win and help the brand.
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Punishers
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Posted - 06/06/2018 : 16:32:33
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Originally posted by Baseball66
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Originally posted by 4holehitter
I wonder sometimes if some of these people on this site have ever played the game or if they are just ignorant and only see the world through their own "rooting interest"?
I am not sure which is worse, not giving NYO coaches / program credit and their players for one good tournament or taking away credit from the top teams week in and week out who have proven they are the best teams around our area that play. The same less than knowledgeable response we see on this site ( haters in successful teams I guess ) there are no major teams or there are only 2 or 3 in the entire state? I think it's because whoever is commenting has never picked up a baseball and played the game. Or their sons team was not mentioned in the rankings it's opinions... just opinions. But I have seen all these teams play all of them. NYO is a good hitting team period. They might not be as deep on pitching and if they played this schedule, 643 Cougars, Kennesaw and GAP in a row then the results could be 3-0 but it might not but if those same teams throw their aces it's likely week in and week out we would see exactly who they are. If they are the best then they would have earned it but if they are not they might fit in with the top 10 as you guys like to rank them. The tournaments we see are not necessarily perfect. Play 3 to 5 game series and you will see the best team most times. The rec comments about travel ball coaches don't teach fundamentals is ignorant. NYO and Buckhead programs are good and solid programs with good coaches. That has nothing to do what so ever with better development and coaching expertise necessarily. Just a good talent pool. I have seen 643, Kennesaw and GAP coaches for several years. They are as good as you get in 12U coaching around here. NYO played well period. They are good and have good players. Let's just say congrats to them... if they do it 7 - 10 times then they might be the best. By the way no one raked anyone.. Buckhead is good too but GAP never trailed or struggled with them at all. Why? GAP pitched one of their top pitchers which NYO did not see later for whatever the reason. Buckhead maybe used their best against Kennesaw? Bottom line it's about match ups. GOLD, Gainesville and Cellblock clearly all would have been in the mix too but they were not there. You can't get all these teams together at once very often. I just disagree totally with this leading opinion here.. but it's just my opinion. Saying Kennesaw, 643 and GAP don't belong in the rankings. You lost my respect on that one. You don't know baseball IMO.
Very well said. I think that there are some haters on this thread. Anyone who tries to diminish the quality of 643, Kennesaw, Georgia Power, etc is just trying to stir the pot. Lets give credit where credit is due. NYO and Buckhead collectively beat all three 643 teams in the tournament as well as Kennesaw and Georgia Power. The 12u NYO team also won a Ripken tournament as 11s last year so this is no fluke. However, as you stated, a lot has to do with pitching. We were at a tournament last weekend where CG Marucci shut down the #1 seed (NYO) with a pitcher that was untouchable (and I believe he plays on other teams).
This brings up another issue...guns for hire at 12u! I watched the Oconee team bring out a pitcher with a different color hat and no name on his jersey (all the other players had names). I will never have my son play on a team where outside kids are brought in just to get a win and help the brand.
The results do not lie. They diminished their own value with their performance. Simply put: The over priced program teams lost to a rec all-star team. Now you guys are trying to make excuses for it. Laughable. |
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Bombernation
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Posted - 06/06/2018 : 19:45:14
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Originally posted by Punishers
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Originally posted by Baseball66
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Originally posted by 4holehitter
I wonder sometimes if some of these people on this site have ever played the game or if they are just ignorant and only see the world through their own "rooting interest"?
I am not sure which is worse, not giving NYO coaches / program credit and their players for one good tournament or taking away credit from the top teams week in and week out who have proven they are the best teams around our area that play. The same less than knowledgeable response we see on this site ( haters in successful teams I guess ) there are no major teams or there are only 2 or 3 in the entire state? I think it's because whoever is commenting has never picked up a baseball and played the game. Or their sons team was not mentioned in the rankings it's opinions... just opinions. But I have seen all these teams play all of them. NYO is a good hitting team period. They might not be as deep on pitching and if they played this schedule, 643 Cougars, Kennesaw and GAP in a row then the results could be 3-0 but it might not but if those same teams throw their aces it's likely week in and week out we would see exactly who they are. If they are the best then they would have earned it but if they are not they might fit in with the top 10 as you guys like to rank them. The tournaments we see are not necessarily perfect. Play 3 to 5 game series and you will see the best team most times. The rec comments about travel ball coaches don't teach fundamentals is ignorant. NYO and Buckhead programs are good and solid programs with good coaches. That has nothing to do what so ever with better development and coaching expertise necessarily. Just a good talent pool. I have seen 643, Kennesaw and GAP coaches for several years. They are as good as you get in 12U coaching around here. NYO played well period. They are good and have good players. Let's just say congrats to them... if they do it 7 - 10 times then they might be the best. By the way no one raked anyone.. Buckhead is good too but GAP never trailed or struggled with them at all. Why? GAP pitched one of their top pitchers which NYO did not see later for whatever the reason. Buckhead maybe used their best against Kennesaw? Bottom line it's about match ups. GOLD, Gainesville and Cellblock clearly all would have been in the mix too but they were not there. You can't get all these teams together at once very often. I just disagree totally with this leading opinion here.. but it's just my opinion. Saying Kennesaw, 643 and GAP don't belong in the rankings. You lost my respect on that one. You don't know baseball IMO.
Very well said. I think that there are some haters on this thread. Anyone who tries to diminish the quality of 643, Kennesaw, Georgia Power, etc is just trying to stir the pot. Lets give credit where credit is due. NYO and Buckhead collectively beat all three 643 teams in the tournament as well as Kennesaw and Georgia Power. The 12u NYO team also won a Ripken tournament as 11s last year so this is no fluke. However, as you stated, a lot has to do with pitching. We were at a tournament last weekend where CG Marucci shut down the #1 seed (NYO) with a pitcher that was untouchable (and I believe he plays on other teams).
This brings up another issue...guns for hire at 12u! I watched the Oconee team bring out a pitcher with a different color hat and no name on his jersey (all the other players had names). I will never have my son play on a team where outside kids are brought in just to get a win and help the brand.
The results do not lie. They diminished their own value with their performance. Simply put: The over priced program teams lost to a rec all-star team. Now you guys are trying to make excuses for it. Laughable.
Correct. One of the AAA teams in the tourney lost to a AAA team in the tourney. Dude, you are running WAY too hot for a parent that isn’t beyond 14/15’s. As an example, go look at what’s going on in the 14 / 15 threads.
Nada. Everyone gets humbled after 12’s and the players rise from the heap.
Hope everyone’s Spring is as enjoyable as mine has been.
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Punishers
688 Posts |
Posted - 06/06/2018 : 22:09:12
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Originally posted by Bombernation
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Originally posted by Punishers
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Originally posted by Baseball66
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Originally posted by 4holehitter
I wonder sometimes if some of these people on this site have ever played the game or if they are just ignorant and only see the world through their own "rooting interest"?
I am not sure which is worse, not giving NYO coaches / program credit and their players for one good tournament or taking away credit from the top teams week in and week out who have proven they are the best teams around our area that play. The same less than knowledgeable response we see on this site ( haters in successful teams I guess ) there are no major teams or there are only 2 or 3 in the entire state? I think it's because whoever is commenting has never picked up a baseball and played the game. Or their sons team was not mentioned in the rankings it's opinions... just opinions. But I have seen all these teams play all of them. NYO is a good hitting team period. They might not be as deep on pitching and if they played this schedule, 643 Cougars, Kennesaw and GAP in a row then the results could be 3-0 but it might not but if those same teams throw their aces it's likely week in and week out we would see exactly who they are. If they are the best then they would have earned it but if they are not they might fit in with the top 10 as you guys like to rank them. The tournaments we see are not necessarily perfect. Play 3 to 5 game series and you will see the best team most times. The rec comments about travel ball coaches don't teach fundamentals is ignorant. NYO and Buckhead programs are good and solid programs with good coaches. That has nothing to do what so ever with better development and coaching expertise necessarily. Just a good talent pool. I have seen 643, Kennesaw and GAP coaches for several years. They are as good as you get in 12U coaching around here. NYO played well period. They are good and have good players. Let's just say congrats to them... if they do it 7 - 10 times then they might be the best. By the way no one raked anyone.. Buckhead is good too but GAP never trailed or struggled with them at all. Why? GAP pitched one of their top pitchers which NYO did not see later for whatever the reason. Buckhead maybe used their best against Kennesaw? Bottom line it's about match ups. GOLD, Gainesville and Cellblock clearly all would have been in the mix too but they were not there. You can't get all these teams together at once very often. I just disagree totally with this leading opinion here.. but it's just my opinion. Saying Kennesaw, 643 and GAP don't belong in the rankings. You lost my respect on that one. You don't know baseball IMO.
Very well said. I think that there are some haters on this thread. Anyone who tries to diminish the quality of 643, Kennesaw, Georgia Power, etc is just trying to stir the pot. Lets give credit where credit is due. NYO and Buckhead collectively beat all three 643 teams in the tournament as well as Kennesaw and Georgia Power. The 12u NYO team also won a Ripken tournament as 11s last year so this is no fluke. However, as you stated, a lot has to do with pitching. We were at a tournament last weekend where CG Marucci shut down the #1 seed (NYO) with a pitcher that was untouchable (and I believe he plays on other teams).
This brings up another issue...guns for hire at 12u! I watched the Oconee team bring out a pitcher with a different color hat and no name on his jersey (all the other players had names). I will never have my son play on a team where outside kids are brought in just to get a win and help the brand.
The results do not lie. They diminished their own value with their performance. Simply put: The over priced program teams lost to a rec all-star team. Now you guys are trying to make excuses for it. Laughable.
Correct. One of the AAA teams in the tourney lost to a AAA team in the tourney. Dude, you are running WAY too hot for a parent that isn’t beyond 14/15’s. As an example, go look at what’s going on in the 14 / 15 threads.
Nada. Everyone gets humbled after 12’s and the players rise from the heap.
Hope everyone’s Spring is as enjoyable as mine has been.
Not hot one bit. Cool as a cold PBR. The old adage still applies: A fool and his money will soon part. Which is what seems to be happening to the man boob thumpers (my kid plays major) types out there. |
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baseball fan 07
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Posted - 06/07/2018 : 08:14:44
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| You might be as cool as a cold PBR, but you're coming across sounding awfully bitter towards major baseball programs. It looks like all the teams you're referring to aren't even major - so it sounds like more of an academy issue which is a different conversation. I don't know if it was a bad experience but not all major teams/programs are the same. Again, everything doesn't come down to how much money parents decide to spend. It's where they feel it puts their child in the best situation to succeed and ready to hopefully play year after year. I'm sure there's just as many parents in all stars saying they want to invest in something different and move to a travel program next year. To each is own! Just like travel, not every all star experience is the same. |
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Bombernation
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Posted - 06/07/2018 : 19:59:55
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Originally posted by baseball fan 07
You might be as cool as a cold PBR, but you're coming across sounding awfully bitter towards major baseball programs. It looks like all the teams you're referring to aren't even major - so it sounds like more of an academy issue which is a different conversation. I don't know if it was a bad experience but not all major teams/programs are the same. Again, everything doesn't come down to how much money parents decide to spend. It's where they feel it puts their child in the best situation to succeed and ready to hopefully play year after year. I'm sure there's just as many parents in all stars saying they want to invest in something different and move to a travel program next year. To each is own! Just like travel, not every all star experience is the same.
Better insight into what the kids that are rostered on some of the Majors teams are experiencing and benefitting from. Baseball is in the blood.
http://borntocompete.com/main/druw-jones-centerfielder-class-2022/ |
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Punishers
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Posted - 06/08/2018 : 10:10:27
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Originally posted by Bombernation
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Originally posted by baseball fan 07
You might be as cool as a cold PBR, but you're coming across sounding awfully bitter towards major baseball programs. It looks like all the teams you're referring to aren't even major - so it sounds like more of an academy issue which is a different conversation. I don't know if it was a bad experience but not all major teams/programs are the same. Again, everything doesn't come down to how much money parents decide to spend. It's where they feel it puts their child in the best situation to succeed and ready to hopefully play year after year. I'm sure there's just as many parents in all stars saying they want to invest in something different and move to a travel program next year. To each is own! Just like travel, not every all star experience is the same.
Better insight into what the kids that are rostered on some of the Majors teams are experiencing and benefitting from. Baseball is in the blood.
http://borntocompete.com/main/druw-jones-centerfielder-class-2022/
I knew you were a salesman for an academy. He's 1 out of the 10,000 there whose parents have shelled out $3500 plus a year for years. He's a stud and would have shined anywhere he went. It's not like he was developed there from scratch. Show me how many 1st rounders they have? SEC or ACC commits? |
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9Y3Dogs
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Posted - 06/08/2018 : 11:54:40
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Better insight into what the kids that are rostered on some of the Majors teams are experiencing and benefitting from. Baseball is in the blood.
http://borntocompete.com/main/druw-jones-centerfielder-class-2022/
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Not sure what you mean. So the kid of a 5 time MLB All Star who runs like a deer and has a cannon for an arm wouldnt be getting the same “experience” or “benefits” if he didnt play on a “major” team? If, for example, he played for NYO he would somehow be missing out on something special?
Natural talent is natural talent, no matter where one plays. You think this kind of kid with this kind of talent who didnt play on one of these teams is going to get overlooked?
The top 1% are going to be found wherever they are. |
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Bombernation
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Posted - 06/08/2018 : 12:27:17
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Originally posted by 9Y3Dogs
Better insight into what the kids that are rostered on some of the Majors teams are experiencing and benefitting from. Baseball is in the blood.
http://borntocompete.com/main/druw-jones-centerfielder-class-2022/
Not sure what you mean. So the kid of a 5 time MLB All Star who runs like a deer and has a cannon for an arm wouldnt be getting the same “experience” or “benefits” if he didnt play on a “major” team? If, for example, he played for NYO he would somehow be missing out on something special?
Natural talent is natural talent, no matter where one plays. You think this kind of kid with this kind of talent who didnt play on one of these teams is going to get overlooked?
The top 1% are going to be found wherever they are.
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Zero intention of doing sales for anybody. I know a bunch of those kids. Playing with that much talent around you pushes you in a different way. I have no dog in the fight, I can only relay what I have seen. |
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nice24
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Posted - 06/08/2018 : 14:18:50
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What qualifies a team as a rec. team? Back in the day, a rec. team was a team picked from a big pool of kids that signed up with the county/city recreation center and was placed on teams through a draft. These aren't rec. teams. Just good teams. When the teams are classified, it is supposed to be based off how they fared against all competition early in the season in Open age group tournaments. OR a teams coach just classified them as he feels. As a dad who has a legitimate major player (by the grace of God), whose team constantly see's every teams 1 or 2...I can attest that almost every team has a major or plus pitcher that can shut down a great hitting team for a game. If you play your cards right, that guy will have some innings in an opportune time.
I don't believe the big boys (organizations) can hurt, as long as you keep in mind that they can't make an all star either. I guess the draw is the paid coaches and MLB trainers...even if it's a guy who was drafted in the 38th round. |
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baseball fan 07
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Posted - 06/08/2018 : 16:16:23
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Not sure who were referring to as the salesman but you are entertaining. Again, my child doesn't play for an academy and I'm sure there are many success stories for those that do. If people decide that's not best for their situation, then so be it. No need to tell 10,000 parents they're wasting their money. Based on your statistics. Lol.
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9Y3Dogs
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Posted - 06/08/2018 : 17:23:55
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It’s just fun to see all the emotion and energy put into “who is better” when, as many have said, there really isn’t a great way to do it. Match-ups dictate a lot of it, who is in the tournament, etc.
Yes, the kids on the “major” teams probably have different experiences, but that doesn’t always mean better. Many, not all, or even most, of the parents I know with kids on those teams seem overly emotionally invested in getting validation that those teams are indeed “major.”
On these boards there is a lot of that - adults seeking validation that their kid does indeed play on a “top 10” team. It is clear that this whole discussion, based on comments related to a couple of “All Star” teams beating some highly reputable programs which was such an apparently unprecedented event that threads in two separate discussion groups were blowing up.
The people who try to tear down those programs are just as bad. They offer a service of great value to many people. Good for them.
Would the actual players be as worried about these discussions if their parents, or other adults, didn’t engage in them, or would they be interested in having fun playing a game they love with friends? |
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CoachTowns
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Posted - 06/08/2018 : 19:14:40
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| I don’t know why all you guys wast your time and breath arguing about who the best triple A team in Georgia is. The Northside Narwhals are the ONLY true major level team based in Georgia. Why do you think Domingo Ayala wears a Northside Narwhals hat in all of his videos. He wants to be associated with the best. #NarwhalsNation |
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Maroon_Tiger
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Posted - 06/11/2018 : 09:44:47
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Here's a quick explainer for those who haven't been traveling all season
There are three types of Major level teams
High-Majors (South Dekalb, Cellblock, Kennesaw, Gainesville) are the teams who can enter a large tournament and no matter the draw, figure that they have a great chance of advancing deep into the bracket
Mid-Majors are the teams that can advance deep into a large tournament if they get a favorable draw
Low-Majors are the teams that are too good for AAA, so they battle the Majors every weekend but normally get eliminated pretty early in the bracket of a large tournament
(The reason that I say large tournaments is because the larger ones more accurately prove a teams level due to the amount of pitching that must be used. Smaller tournaments are slanted toward teams with a couple of dominant Pitchers.)
You don't rate a team by its performance in a single game or in a single tournament; you look at the body of work
Anyone can get beat in one game. But in a hypothetical five game series, the higher level teams will win out
All that being said, I've actually seen NYO play. From what I can tell, they are a solid Mid-Major team
In the TC State they got a favorable pool play draw, took advantage of that to get the number one seed, and won the tournament.
A week later in the GrandSlam State, they got a less favorable draw and ended up in the Silver bracket.
Those are the characteristics of a Mid-Major
I have not seen Buckhead play but they are obviously also a Major level team; not sure if they are mid or low. But they are not a AAA team, so ignore what they are registered as
And as for teams picking up players...
Not every kid with a different hat is a mercenary brought in to elevate a teams status that weekend. Some of the kids with the different pants or no name on the jersey were kids who were added late into the season after uniforms were already ordered.
Also, some kids have a main team and a team that they pick up with consistently. Many reasons for this. Maybe the kid is a Major level Pitcher but not a great hitter, so he picks up with a better team to pitch against better competition, but stays on his lower level team to get at bats and fielding reps. Or vice versa and he goes down to another team to work on his pitching
If you are playing against a kid who looks suspect, check out their GameChanger page and see just how many tournaments that the "ringer" has played with that particular team. |
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