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| gasbag |
Posted - 05/11/2010 : 15:06:55
Wanted to see what everyone's thoughts are on this. From my perspective, I retired from Coaching baseball when I became the impediment to my son's development. It was fascinating as I watched him become more knowledgeable about the game than myself ! It was a rude awakening and somehow very freeing....I still help him hit off a tee and do soft toss, hit him fly balls but he's learning the nuances of the game from others now but he and I still love to practice and do the drills together outside of his teams practice. I was somewhat reluctant at first, probably based on my own insecurities but it has been absolutely fabulous !!!! I can now sit and watch his games as his DAD and his number one fan !
What have you experienced ? |
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| dawgpen |
Posted - 05/31/2010 : 07:28:51
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Originally posted by coachdan06
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Originally posted by JCB
For what its worth - learning how the world works in terms of coaches playing favorites or thier own son, coming to terms with not being good enough, deciding to work harder to prove others wrong, and trying to learn how politics work in real life, and then making the most of opportunities when you get your chance - these are all good life lessons too. If we are honest with our boys and tell it real and not from the victim perspective, then they can learn lots even when they are frustrated - maybe it will help them later in school, social situations, life encounters and the work environment. All good chances to learn valuable lessons.
Great Post JCB !!!
We saw when the boys hit 12 or 13 they knew as well and sometimes better than the adults who should be on the field and who should not.
They yes had to come to grips with it
Not only who should be on the field but,in many cases, what position they should be playing. |
| coachdan06 |
Posted - 05/27/2010 : 08:58:40
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Originally posted by JCB
For what its worth - learning how the world works in terms of coaches playing favorites or thier own son, coming to terms with not being good enough, deciding to work harder to prove others wrong, and trying to learn how politics work in real life, and then making the most of opportunities when you get your chance - these are all good life lessons too. If we are honest with our boys and tell it real and not from the victim perspective, then they can learn lots even when they are frustrated - maybe it will help them later in school, social situations, life encounters and the work environment. All good chances to learn valuable lessons.
Great Post JCB !!!
We saw when the boys hit 12 or 13 they knew as well and sometimes better than the adults who should be on the field and who should not.
They yes had to come to grips with it
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| JCB |
Posted - 05/25/2010 : 14:26:58
For what its worth - learning how the world works in terms of coaches playing favorites or thier own son, coming to terms with not being good enough, deciding to work harder to prove others wrong, and trying to learn how politics work in real life, and then making the most of opportunities when you get your chance - these are all good life lessons too. If we are honest with our boys and tell it real and not from the victim perspective, then they can learn lots even when they are frustrated - maybe it will help them later in school, social situations, life encounters and the work environment. All good chances to learn valuable lessons. |
| Concerned Parent |
Posted - 05/25/2010 : 09:48:13
Completely agree with jongamefan. I think it is painfully obvious too when a coach has to create a whole new independent association to creat a place for that kid to play. It is not doing the kid any favors handing them a position they are not capable of earning. And the rest of the kids know it and us parents have to try to explain why there are a different set of rules for some kids. Remember, this is about a team of kids, not the parents or the coaches kid! Coaches like that contribute to the challenge parents have of teaching their kids that working hard will pay off. |
| AA17Dad |
Posted - 05/21/2010 : 18:54:58
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Originally posted by gasbag
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Originally posted by AA17Dad
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Originally posted by coachdan06
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Originally posted by oldmanmj
How many parents will say enough and let their kid have fun vs. live the dream through Johnny? That is just the start. Less than 5% of these boys will make it to college ball and less than 1% of them will make it to the bigs, so what is the frenzy?
Already said it well - its about the parents own dreams and egos
Its run off a lot of very good volunteer coaches who dont want to deal with it
Not to argue....but I'd say that there could be a very good argument made that a lot of good kids/families have been run off due to the egos of the coaches......
AA17Dad - You really got me thinking about my ego and coaching so I did some cyphering of my years as a coach:
Track........8 seasons...12/hrs/wk....10 wk season...960 Hours
Wrestling....5 seasons...15/hrs/wk....20 wk season...1,500 Hours
Baseball.....6 seasons...7/hrs/wk.....24 wk season...1,008 Hours
___________________________________________________________________
3,468 hours
I wouldn't trade any of the hours and time I spent with my own son nor any other kids I was privelaged to coach. The remuneration I received over the years is kids and parents that come back years later and still address me as ....COACH ! I hope you can see by my response that I'm not really in agreement with your statement regarding coaches.
Every year, we "egomaniacle" coaches have to endure a few ungrateful parents whom drop their kids off to use our practice as their after-school babysitting service, don't stay to watch their athlete practice, show up for games and then want to criticize the coach for all of their shortcomings ! Guess what, we come back season after season and many times continue to coach your kids. We don't do it for you.....we are there for not only our kid, but ALL the kids and for the love of the sport. Many times, not enough parents help VOLUNTEER to coach or help out. You do not need to be 100% conversant in a particular sport to step up to the plate and help out ! You do have to be doing it for the right reasons however.
I'll still coach your son / daughter AA17Dad because I LOVE helping to make a positive impact on our future with our YOUTH. I'm passionate about coaching and sharing the little bit that I know about life with the kids that are willing to listen. I do not know everything about every sport. More importantly, I recognize what I don't know and where and when to go out and seek help or further instruction. You see, because I love the sport(s) I coach, I continue to try and learn more about them.
Coach Gasbag
Coach Gasbag. I didn't intend to offend you or anyone else that coaches this great game. Apparently my comments have struck a nerve with you but I can't make alot of since out of your rant.
I applaud all of you/us that dedicaite there time and efforts to enrich the lives of youths.
I didn't imply that you or all coaches are egomaniacs. I was simply throwing it out there that it is not just psycho moms and dads that cause all of the problems in youth baseball. I myself have played Dad, the asst coach on to head coach and back to dad. I have done pretty much everything in between, kept books, ran team websites, kept stats, handle the finances,recruited players, picked up kids that live 20 miles in the opposite direction to get them to practices and games and back. I have sponsored other kids. I have taken kids out of town with us on my dime, to the tune of upgrading to bigger condos to accomodate kids that stayed with us...again on my dime, and guess what...I volunteered to do all of it and have no regrets.
I'm glad that you have chosen to play a role in your kids, as well as others in thier sporting adventures. I'm glad that you have enjoyed it and wish you well in the future. I intend to do the same.
I could go on but my back your is full of the neighborehood kids playing baseball and I am the only Umpire in the neghborehood....dang did I say Umpire.....don't get me started.....
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| AA17Dad |
Posted - 05/21/2010 : 18:26:32
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Originally posted by coachdan06
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Originally posted by AA17Dad
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Originally posted by coachdan06
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Originally posted by oldmanmj
How many parents will say enough and let their kid have fun vs. live the dream through Johnny? That is just the start. Less than 5% of these boys will make it to college ball and less than 1% of them will make it to the bigs, so what is the frenzy?
Already said it well - its about the parents own dreams and egos
Its run off a lot of very good volunteer coaches who dont want to deal with it
Not to argue....but I'd say that there could be a very good argument made that a lot of good kids/families have been run off due to the egos of the coaches......
Yes.
Thing is that the families and kiddos dont quit permanent over a coach if their sane
They move on to another coach and another team.
Coaches get fed up over nonsense and garbage as a thankless volunteer
and they often do quit for good.
Your earier question if parent coaches have more realistic view of kiddos ability than non coach parents and again Yes with most cases if the board has made sure they hired a baseball knowledgeable person .
Of course this doesnt always happen
I'll start with your first statement. Kids and families do infact move on and out of baseball. Lets just say for political reasons.
I agree that alot of coaches quit coaching but if every dad that started coaching kept coaching...well, instead of 3 on 3 basketball we'd be seeing 3 on 3 baseball games.
To your 3rd comment. The board??? rec board??? well I have never seen a Board turn down a coach that was willing to coach and didn't have a felony record. If you got enough kids to play than you are a coach. Never seen a board question the Baseball IQ of a volunteer, now I have seen a few ...very few asked not to come back.
Now as for me. I was a Dad...then a coach...now a Dad...I really don't think the title of Coach made me any better qualified to judge my on kids performance then than it does now. |
| AA17Dad |
Posted - 05/21/2010 : 17:48:32
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Originally posted by gasbag
Wanted to see what everyone's thoughts are on this. From my perspective, I retired from Coaching baseball when I became the impediment to my son's development. It was fascinating as I watched him become more knowledgeable about the game than myself ! It was a rude awakening and somehow very freeing....I still help him hit off a tee and do soft toss, hit him fly balls but he's learning the nuances of the game from others now but he and I still love to practice and do the drills together outside of his teams practice. I was somewhat reluctant at first, probably based on my own insecurities but it has been absolutely fabulous !!!! I can now sit and watch his games as his DAD and his number one fan !
What have you experienced ?
To answer your question. I'd say any time you can get your kid on a team with better coaching and better players. The sooner the better. So it depends on your level of coaching as well as your kids level of play. The better he is the sooner you will get the oppurtunity to place him with a team that has the better coaches and players.
Your experience has been similar to ours. I remember reading an artical about coaching your own kid from QCbaseball.com that got my attention. |
| oldmanmj |
Posted - 05/20/2010 : 11:20:05
AA17 Dad, no I don't think that most parent coaches have a realistic view of their own child's ability. Having been around it now for 20 years, it is sadly obvious that most dad coaches use the team venue to guarantee a spot for Johnny. I also agree that there are Pro's out there telling Johnny's parents that he is a show in at XYZ position and I can help him get there for $$$$$$. Don't get me wrong, I was dad coach for 2 of my sons. Thankfully I was never accused of Daddy ball. Tough thing for everyone involved to be making the right choices for the young man. |
| gasbag |
Posted - 05/20/2010 : 09:41:11
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Originally posted by AA17Dad
quote:
Originally posted by coachdan06
quote:
Originally posted by oldmanmj
How many parents will say enough and let their kid have fun vs. live the dream through Johnny? That is just the start. Less than 5% of these boys will make it to college ball and less than 1% of them will make it to the bigs, so what is the frenzy?
Already said it well - its about the parents own dreams and egos
Its run off a lot of very good volunteer coaches who dont want to deal with it
Not to argue....but I'd say that there could be a very good argument made that a lot of good kids/families have been run off due to the egos of the coaches......
AA17Dad - You really got me thinking about my ego and coaching so I did some cyphering of my years as a coach:
Track........8 seasons...12/hrs/wk....10 wk season...960 Hours
Wrestling....5 seasons...15/hrs/wk....20 wk season...1,500 Hours
Baseball.....6 seasons...7/hrs/wk.....24 wk season...1,008 Hours
___________________________________________________________________
3,468 hours
I wouldn't trade any of the hours and time I spent with my own son nor any other kids I was privelaged to coach. The remuneration I received over the years is kids and parents that come back years later and still address me as ....COACH ! I hope you can see by my response that I'm not really in agreement with your statement regarding coaches.
Every year, we "egomaniacle" coaches have to endure a few ungrateful parents whom drop their kids off to use our practice as their after-school babysitting service, don't stay to watch their athlete practice, show up for games and then want to criticize the coach for all of their shortcomings ! Guess what, we come back season after season and many times continue to coach your kids. We don't do it for you.....we are there for not only our kid, but ALL the kids and for the love of the sport. Many times, not enough parents help VOLUNTEER to coach or help out. You do not need to be 100% conversant in a particular sport to step up to the plate and help out ! You do have to be doing it for the right reasons however.
I'll still coach your son / daughter AA17Dad because I LOVE helping to make a positive impact on our future with our YOUTH. I'm passionate about coaching and sharing the little bit that I know about life with the kids that are willing to listen. I do not know everything about every sport. More importantly, I recognize what I don't know and where and when to go out and seek help or further instruction. You see, because I love the sport(s) I coach, I continue to try and learn more about them.
Coach Gasbag
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| coachdan06 |
Posted - 05/19/2010 : 23:57:10
quote:
Originally posted by AA17Dad
quote:
Originally posted by coachdan06
quote:
Originally posted by oldmanmj
How many parents will say enough and let their kid have fun vs. live the dream through Johnny? That is just the start. Less than 5% of these boys will make it to college ball and less than 1% of them will make it to the bigs, so what is the frenzy?
Already said it well - its about the parents own dreams and egos
Its run off a lot of very good volunteer coaches who dont want to deal with it
Not to argue....but I'd say that there could be a very good argument made that a lot of good kids/families have been run off due to the egos of the coaches......
Yes.
Thing is that the families and kiddos dont quit permanent over a coach if their sane
They move on to another coach and another team.
Coaches get fed up over nonsense and garbage as a thankless volunteer
and they often do quit for good.
Your earier question if parent coaches have more realistic view of kiddos ability than non coach parents and again Yes with most cases if the board has made sure they hired a baseball knowledgeable person .
Of course this doesnt always happen |
| AA17Dad |
Posted - 05/19/2010 : 17:36:18
quote:
Originally posted by coachdan06
quote:
Originally posted by oldmanmj
How many parents will say enough and let their kid have fun vs. live the dream through Johnny? That is just the start. Less than 5% of these boys will make it to college ball and less than 1% of them will make it to the bigs, so what is the frenzy?
Already said it well - its about the parents own dreams and egos
Its run off a lot of very good volunteer coaches who dont want to deal with it
Not to argue....but I'd say that there could be a very good argument made that a lot of good kids/families have been run off due to the egos of the coaches...... |
| AA17Dad |
Posted - 05/19/2010 : 17:31:37
quote:
Originally posted by oldmanmj
Great question Allstar. Answer: Still not enough to equal the amount of boys that want to play baseball. My earlier statement was to start another discussion, here it is. Everyone that wants to play, should play. It takes good men that volunteer their time and money to coach so that they can play. Each of our levels of experience puts us in certain places. The disconnect is, we have had this discussion in the past, the parents inability to truely evaluate their own childs abilily and desire level. Life also puts barriers on teams: cost to play up-Rec vs. Travelball, cost of private lessons, distance to competitive park, cost to travel to tournaments, etc. Mixed into that is a parent's unrealistic view of their childs ability. How many parents ask their kids where do they want to play and why? How many take the time to discuss the commitment to play at certain levels? How many parents will say enough and let their kid have fun vs. live the dream through Johnny? That is just the start. Less than 5% of these boys will make it to college ball and less than 1% of them will make it to the bigs, so what is the frenzy?
Is it your oppinion that parents that coach have a more realistic view of their own childs ability?
The frenzy.....well you have the Tiger Woods Syndrom....if I train my kid from the time he can walk I can make him a Pro.
You have some ( Often people making money teaching ) that convince parents that if you bring Johnny to me every week for training or play on my team I can make him a Pro....
Some folks are just gullable.
The fact is that until AFTER puberty you have little impact on their future as an athlete.
Prior to puberty you can do more harm than good.
Prior to puberty little Johnny AND his family better be having some FUN ! |
| AllStar |
Posted - 05/19/2010 : 16:12:23
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Originally posted by gasbag
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Originally posted by AllStar
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Originally posted by gasbag
Wanted to see what everyone's thoughts are on this. From my perspective, I retired from Coaching baseball when I became the impediment to my son's development. It was fascinating as I watched him become more knowledgeable about the game than myself ! It was a rude awakening and somehow very freeing....I still help him hit off a tee and do soft toss, hit him fly balls but he's learning the nuances of the game from others now but he and I still love to practice and do the drills together outside of his teams practice. I was somewhat reluctant at first, probably based on my own insecurities but it has been absolutely fabulous !!!! I can now sit and watch his games as his DAD and his number one fan !
What have you experienced ?
What age was that?
AllStar...I bowed out at the 12U level. My son needed a change of scenery from a team perspective as well as a coaching perspective ( of which I was one ! ) if he was going to continue to grow. He was becoming frustrated and I did not want the coaching or team to sour him on this great game. He was wanting and willing to leave a team he played on for quite a few years and had developed deep friendships etc. I figured if he was willing to make a sacrifice like that, then I'd be more than happy to look in the mirror myself and do what was best for my son. In my analysis, sometimes I believe we dad coaches lose site of the fact that although we may possess some insights and knowledge of the game ( whatever sport it may be ), we are not the most effective teacher or coach to our own children. Sometimes the same message is better received from someone else.....in the end, do I care.....heavens NO....not if my son continues to grow and develop and pursue something he's passionate about !
He still asks me questions and wants to hear my perspective, guidance etc. He's blossomed now and I'm really happy for him. I'm most pleased that some of the non-technical things I taught him are some of his biggest attributes now under other coaches. Things like work ethic, respect for the game, respect for your opponent, hustle, pride in your craft, team work, to always have FUN, etc etc etc.
I feel like a farmer who cultivated the soil, fertilized it and planted it....now I'm watching it grow towards the sun !!!!
Relative to the age issue, I think that's a personal thing and something every coach and dad / mom needs to look at for themselves and their son or daughter. Was it kind of scary looking introspectively, heck yes....but in the end, I really think my son and I made the right decision for us.
Great answer. Glad it worked out so well. I did the same one year later. The results are still TBD, but all signs point to it being the right thing to do for him.
I sleep a lot better not having to do lineups, too. 
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| gasbag |
Posted - 05/18/2010 : 13:43:57
quote:
Originally posted by AllStar
quote:
Originally posted by gasbag
Wanted to see what everyone's thoughts are on this. From my perspective, I retired from Coaching baseball when I became the impediment to my son's development. It was fascinating as I watched him become more knowledgeable about the game than myself ! It was a rude awakening and somehow very freeing....I still help him hit off a tee and do soft toss, hit him fly balls but he's learning the nuances of the game from others now but he and I still love to practice and do the drills together outside of his teams practice. I was somewhat reluctant at first, probably based on my own insecurities but it has been absolutely fabulous !!!! I can now sit and watch his games as his DAD and his number one fan !
What have you experienced ?
What age was that?
AllStar...I bowed out at the 12U level. My son needed a change of scenery from a team perspective as well as a coaching perspective ( of which I was one ! ) if he was going to continue to grow. He was becoming frustrated and I did not want the coaching or team to sour him on this great game. He was wanting and willing to leave a team he played on for quite a few years and had developed deep friendships etc. I figured if he was willing to make a sacrifice like that, then I'd be more than happy to look in the mirror myself and do what was best for my son. In my analysis, sometimes I believe we dad coaches lose site of the fact that although we may possess some insights and knowledge of the game ( whatever sport it may be ), we are not the most effective teacher or coach to our own children. Sometimes the same message is better received from someone else.....in the end, do I care.....heavens NO....not if my son continues to grow and develop and pursue something he's passionate about !
He still asks me questions and wants to hear my perspective, guidance etc. He's blossomed now and I'm really happy for him. I'm most pleased that some of the non-technical things I taught him are some of his biggest attributes now under other coaches. Things like work ethic, respect for the game, respect for your opponent, hustle, pride in your craft, team work, to always have FUN, etc etc etc.
I feel like a farmer who cultivated the soil, fertilized it and planted it....now I'm watching it grow towards the sun !!!!
Relative to the age issue, I think that's a personal thing and something every coach and dad / mom needs to look at for themselves and their son or daughter. Was it kind of scary looking introspectively, heck yes....but in the end, I really think my son and I made the right decision for us.
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| coachdan06 |
Posted - 05/18/2010 : 10:17:47
quote:
Originally posted by oldmanmj
How many parents will say enough and let their kid have fun vs. live the dream through Johnny? That is just the start. Less than 5% of these boys will make it to college ball and less than 1% of them will make it to the bigs, so what is the frenzy?
Already said it well - its about the parents own dreams and egos
Its run off a lot of very good volunteer coaches who dont want to deal with it |
| oldmanmj |
Posted - 05/18/2010 : 08:08:44
Great question Allstar. Answer: Still not enough to equal the amount of boys that want to play baseball. My earlier statement was to start another discussion, here it is. Everyone that wants to play, should play. It takes good men that volunteer their time and money to coach so that they can play. Each of our levels of experience puts us in certain places. The disconnect is, we have had this discussion in the past, the parents inability to truely evaluate their own childs abilily and desire level. Life also puts barriers on teams: cost to play up-Rec vs. Travelball, cost of private lessons, distance to competitive park, cost to travel to tournaments, etc. Mixed into that is a parent's unrealistic view of their childs ability. How many parents ask their kids where do they want to play and why? How many take the time to discuss the commitment to play at certain levels? How many parents will say enough and let their kid have fun vs. live the dream through Johnny? That is just the start. Less than 5% of these boys will make it to college ball and less than 1% of them will make it to the bigs, so what is the frenzy? |
| AllStar |
Posted - 05/18/2010 : 05:45:45
quote:
Originally posted by gasbag
Wanted to see what everyone's thoughts are on this. From my perspective, I retired from Coaching baseball when I became the impediment to my son's development. It was fascinating as I watched him become more knowledgeable about the game than myself ! It was a rude awakening and somehow very freeing....I still help him hit off a tee and do soft toss, hit him fly balls but he's learning the nuances of the game from others now but he and I still love to practice and do the drills together outside of his teams practice. I was somewhat reluctant at first, probably based on my own insecurities but it has been absolutely fabulous !!!! I can now sit and watch his games as his DAD and his number one fan !
What have you experienced ?
What age was that? |
| AllStar |
Posted - 05/18/2010 : 05:43:33
quote:
Originally posted by bballman
Probably as many as there needed to be. Too many as it is. The whole talkent is watered down.
I don't disagree. Different thread.
How many non-dad coached teams are there now? I would have trouble coming up with 15. |
| bballman |
Posted - 05/17/2010 : 22:29:00
Probably as many as there needed to be. Too many as it is. The whole talkent is watered down. |
| AllStar |
Posted - 05/17/2010 : 18:18:15
quote:
Originally posted by gasbag
Wanted to see what everyone's thoughts are on this. From my perspective, I retired from Coaching baseball when I became the impediment to my son's development. It was fascinating as I watched him become more knowledgeable about the game than myself ! It was a rude awakening and somehow very freeing....I still help him hit off a tee and do soft toss, hit him fly balls but he's learning the nuances of the game from others now but he and I still love to practice and do the drills together outside of his teams practice. I was somewhat reluctant at first, probably based on my own insecurities but it has been absolutely fabulous !!!! I can now sit and watch his games as his DAD and his number one fan !
What have you experienced ?
Let's do a quick experiment. Let's say all dads have to stop coaching after the 12 YO season. That's the old school age that LL stopped back in the day before we knew how important it was for boys to play 70 games a year. Also, it would allow dads to experience the Cooperstown trip as a coach.
How many 13YO teams would there be?
I picked that age, because I think that would be about right, but again, how many 13 and 14 YO teams would there be if that actually happened. |
| oldmanmj |
Posted - 05/17/2010 : 10:23:55
Gasbag, you are one of a very few that realized they were past their ability to help not only your son, but others advance. Too many dads think they are the best to provide instruction for the whole team. The reality is, he is just guaranteeing his son a starting position, hence 10,000 travel teams, where Johnny is the starting short stop, if you get my drift. This is at every level. I did the same thing for both my sons. I handed both of my sons off to coaches that could help them get better; pitching, hitting, fielding etc. Staying their coach and getting them private lessons is not the way either. If your player is not getting better at any level, the coaching needs to change. That of course means that your son is working hard after practice at home to continue to get better also. You can't practice then lock yourself on the computer or sit and play X box all night. |
| gasbag |
Posted - 05/14/2010 : 11:57:13
Although I've stepped away from Coaching on the ballfield, I still Coach JR. on the mat ! Stepping away from the ballfield has altered my Coaching of him in the wrestling room. I've become more dad and less Coach, more fan and less Coach and my son now reacts differently to me. What a blessing these kids bring to us. I now find my son teaching me the nuances and imparting his new knowledge of the game with me. I wouldn't change Coaching him ( them, I actually Coached his older brother as well ) on the ballfield in his early years for anything on this earth. I also wouldn't change stepping away and watching him grow further without my Coaching. He has made me become a better dad and better Coach.....all these years I thought I was Coaching him....maybe I had things backwards ? |
| ljames |
Posted - 05/13/2010 : 15:39:19
I stopped coaching my son going into his 12 spring season and like biged posted above our relationship has been a lot better over the past few years. I was a coach that never wanted to be accused of playing "daddy ball" so my son would get the short end of the stick. I would sit him out a little more than others and bat him lower in the lineup than I should have. He started to recognize it over time and would question me about it.
Stepping away from coaching and letting him get rewarded for his talents from other coaches was just what we needed. I'm now just a dad who keeps the book. We talk baseball at home all the time and he wants to go in the backyard and work on things without me saying anything prior. Over the years he has asked me why don't I coach a team anymore and says he misses it. In the back of my mind I'm saying to myself, It sure didn't seem like you wanted me to coach you at the time. I just tell him that I enjoy being just his dad, more than I did dad/coach. As his dad I can be his biggest fan without worrying about "daddy ball". |
| jongamefan |
Posted - 05/12/2010 : 10:39:50
Watched this with all my sons and there teams
Time for dad-coach to go is when his son is at the bottom half of the team talent level yet is playing instead of others obvious more talented
Everyone including the other kids can see it
No good for son no good for team dynamics no good for dad |
| biged |
Posted - 05/11/2010 : 22:06:03
Very similar experience myself. Hard to step away, but once I did our relationship got even better. It is also nice not to have to throw bp to 15 kids four nights a week. |
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