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| Ryno23 |
Posted - 02/02/2017 : 04:17:37
I am looking for advice and some insight of parents of older players, who have had a conflict of philosophies from their travel/summer team coaches and their high school coaches. To save you a lot of unnecessary details, this is my son's first year in school baseball program and currently plays on the JV team. For the first month of practices, the JV and varsity teams practice and workout together. Obviously, this allows the varsity coaches the opportunity to work with kids that they envision of being able to play on the varsity team for the next few years. My son has been working with his travel ball coach all Fall and Winter in the cage, and really defined the mechanics of his swing and ultimately I feel is a big contributor in his ability to make the JV team as an 8th grader. I have only seen bits and pieces of about three practices, and from the couple of times I have watched the two teams hitting on the field, and he is consistently hitting the ball hard with line drives in the gaps. My son came to me last night to tell me the varsity head coach wants to tweak a few things with his swing, things that will completely change the fundamentals of his load and timing....the very things that his travel ball coach has worked with him on over the last several months. The coach made a suggestion to him last night, of going home and watching major league hitters swings on YouTube....and honestly his swing is modeled after two of the best right handed hitters in the game!
As a parent who is trying to teach life lessons at every opportunity, and I feel this situation can be a valuable life lesson. Anyone who has had a similar experience over the years, I am curious how you handled this situation without undermining the high school baseball coach? |
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| Crazyforbball |
Posted - 02/27/2017 : 13:33:22
Let them play ball and stay away! Sit in the stands and just enjoy being a spectator! Isn't this embarrassing as all get out for a high school age boy anyway? Sheesh! |
| CaCO3Girl |
Posted - 02/27/2017 : 07:30:23
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Originally posted by mikepayne
The parents at the dugout after 12 and most certainly at the high school level will have their kids living with them until they are 26. Peace be with the teachers and coaches out there, they have to deal with all these different parents and their ego's.
TRUTH! |
| mikepayne |
Posted - 02/23/2017 : 14:40:23
The parents at the dugout after 12 and most certainly at the high school level will have their kids living with them until they are 26. Peace be with the teachers and coaches out there, they have to deal with all these different parents and their ego's. |
| Cherokeeplayer |
Posted - 02/22/2017 : 13:32:02
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Originally posted by Hurricane
a little off the subject, but I had a discussion today about how parents swarm the dugout now days in HS and even College. This is something I think parents picked up while their sons played travel baseball. They feel like they paid a lot of money to play they have the right to certain things. They probably do, but in HS and College parents should not even make contact with their kids unless its after the game.
TRUE! Was warned by High School coach that if any parent brought anything to the dugout it would be split 20 ways because that is how many kids were on the team. In other words, parents are NOT welcome. |
| Punishers |
Posted - 02/22/2017 : 06:07:00
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Originally posted by Hurricane
a little off the subject, but I had a discussion today about how parents swarm the dugout now days in HS and even College. This is something I think parents picked up while their sons played travel baseball. They feel like they paid a lot of money to play they have the right to certain things. They probably do, but in HS and College parents should not even make contact with their kids unless its after the game.
Really? Must be something carried own from travel ball. Didn't even know my parents were at the game until it was over. |
| Hurricane |
Posted - 02/21/2017 : 15:40:50
a little off the subject, but I had a discussion today about how parents swarm the dugout now days in HS and even College. This is something I think parents picked up while their sons played travel baseball. They feel like they paid a lot of money to play they have the right to certain things. They probably do, but in HS and College parents should not even make contact with their kids unless its after the game. |
| Ryno23 |
Posted - 02/15/2017 : 05:33:53
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Originally posted by tbaillie2
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Originally posted by Ryno23
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Originally posted by Punishers
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Originally posted by ecb7
Please realize a majority of the high school coaches have good intentions by few have the experience and skill level to help improve your son skill level. Everything is up to the parents and player regarding development and recruiting. I have a Senior in High School this year and he's been started for last 3 years on Varsity hitting a team leading Batting Average of over .400 for last 3 season at high classification in Georgia. This will give idea how crazy high school baseball can be my son has been starting at SS, and 3B for last 3 years with highest fielding % and got moved to Outfield in his Senior Year? He's ranked one of the Top MIF according to Perfect Game in GA and has several Division I offers to play at next level and the new starters in our infield won't play past High School. Bottom line High School ball means nothing besides playing with his buddies he grew up with and trying to win a State Championship it's all about Summer Travel Ball and Showcases. Make sure to Prepare your son to test well in 60 Yard Dash, Velocity Test , and improve hitting skills. Take some of these High School Coaches advice for a Grain of Salt. Have a Great Season!!
Kudos. Someone who knows the truth.
You're absolutely correct! I realized several years ago, it is the parents responsibility to make sure your son is prepared for the measurable skills that colleges rely on as you described. The days of relying on your high school coach to assist in college opportunities are for the most part, extinct. That process started for him over the winter and fall, working out three times a week and building a stronger core, along with speed and agility. He was able to earn a spot with one of the top teams in the state and we will be spending a majority of our weekends at Emerson from April until July.
Thanks again and hope everyone has a great baseball season!
None of that means the High School coach isn't good, or one's individual trainer/coach and travel team staff is better (or worse).
A HS coach, particularly at higher/highest levels likely knows he's getting a bunch of (fairly) polished products and just as they probably won't do much to someone's "swing" if they really are 'that level' and producing - they also understand their position in recruitment. It's not a mutually exclusive conversation as some want to suggest or portray it to be. Do some HS coaches suck? Sure. Do some "travel coaches" suck? Absofreakinglutely.
The goal of a/the parent is to recognize the needs (and capabilities) of their kid/player and properly support them. The nonsense about HS coaches basically just carte blanche getting in the way screams more jealousy than it does any real knowledge of the game or process.
I don't recall anyone saying that high school coaches suck...per say, and you're purely reiterating what has already been stated. Thanks for your input coach!
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| tbaillie2 |
Posted - 02/14/2017 : 16:09:24
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Originally posted by Ryno23
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Originally posted by Punishers
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Originally posted by ecb7
Please realize a majority of the high school coaches have good intentions by few have the experience and skill level to help improve your son skill level. Everything is up to the parents and player regarding development and recruiting. I have a Senior in High School this year and he's been started for last 3 years on Varsity hitting a team leading Batting Average of over .400 for last 3 season at high classification in Georgia. This will give idea how crazy high school baseball can be my son has been starting at SS, and 3B for last 3 years with highest fielding % and got moved to Outfield in his Senior Year? He's ranked one of the Top MIF according to Perfect Game in GA and has several Division I offers to play at next level and the new starters in our infield won't play past High School. Bottom line High School ball means nothing besides playing with his buddies he grew up with and trying to win a State Championship it's all about Summer Travel Ball and Showcases. Make sure to Prepare your son to test well in 60 Yard Dash, Velocity Test , and improve hitting skills. Take some of these High School Coaches advice for a Grain of Salt. Have a Great Season!!
Kudos. Someone who knows the truth.
You're absolutely correct! I realized several years ago, it is the parents responsibility to make sure your son is prepared for the measurable skills that colleges rely on as you described. The days of relying on your high school coach to assist in college opportunities are for the most part, extinct. That process started for him over the winter and fall, working out three times a week and building a stronger core, along with speed and agility. He was able to earn a spot with one of the top teams in the state and we will be spending a majority of our weekends at Emerson from April until July.
Thanks again and hope everyone has a great baseball season!
None of that means the High School coach isn't good, or one's individual trainer/coach and travel team staff is better (or worse).
A HS coach, particularly at higher/highest levels likely knows he's getting a bunch of (fairly) polished products and just as they probably won't do much to someone's "swing" if they really are 'that level' and producing - they also understand their position in recruitment. It's not a mutually exclusive conversation as some want to suggest or portray it to be. Do some HS coaches suck? Sure. Do some "travel coaches" suck? Absofreakinglutely.
The goal of a/the parent is to recognize the needs (and capabilities) of their kid/player and properly support them. The nonsense about HS coaches basically just carte blanche getting in the way screams more jealousy than it does any real knowledge of the game or process. |
| Ryno23 |
Posted - 02/14/2017 : 06:15:57
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Originally posted by Punishers
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Originally posted by ecb7
Please realize a majority of the high school coaches have good intentions by few have the experience and skill level to help improve your son skill level. Everything is up to the parents and player regarding development and recruiting. I have a Senior in High School this year and he's been started for last 3 years on Varsity hitting a team leading Batting Average of over .400 for last 3 season at high classification in Georgia. This will give idea how crazy high school baseball can be my son has been starting at SS, and 3B for last 3 years with highest fielding % and got moved to Outfield in his Senior Year? He's ranked one of the Top MIF according to Perfect Game in GA and has several Division I offers to play at next level and the new starters in our infield won't play past High School. Bottom line High School ball means nothing besides playing with his buddies he grew up with and trying to win a State Championship it's all about Summer Travel Ball and Showcases. Make sure to Prepare your son to test well in 60 Yard Dash, Velocity Test , and improve hitting skills. Take some of these High School Coaches advice for a Grain of Salt. Have a Great Season!!
Kudos. Someone who knows the truth.
You're absolutely correct! I realized several years ago, it is the parents responsibility to make sure your son is prepared for the measurable skills that colleges rely on as you described. The days of relying on your high school coach to assist in college opportunities are for the most part, extinct. That process started for him over the winter and fall, working out three times a week and building a stronger core, along with speed and agility. He was able to earn a spot with one of the top teams in the state and we will be spending a majority of our weekends at Emerson from April until July.
Thanks again and hope everyone has a great baseball season!
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| Punishers |
Posted - 02/13/2017 : 21:02:30
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Originally posted by ecb7
Please realize a majority of the high school coaches have good intentions by few have the experience and skill level to help improve your son skill level. Everything is up to the parents and player regarding development and recruiting. I have a Senior in High School this year and he's been started for last 3 years on Varsity hitting a team leading Batting Average of over .400 for last 3 season at high classification in Georgia. This will give idea how crazy high school baseball can be my son has been starting at SS, and 3B for last 3 years with highest fielding % and got moved to Outfield in his Senior Year? He's ranked one of the Top MIF according to Perfect Game in GA and has several Division I offers to play at next level and the new starters in our infield won't play past High School. Bottom line High School ball means nothing besides playing with his buddies he grew up with and trying to win a State Championship it's all about Summer Travel Ball and Showcases. Make sure to Prepare your son to test well in 60 Yard Dash, Velocity Test , and improve hitting skills. Take some of these High School Coaches advice for a Grain of Salt. Have a Great Season!!
Kudos. Someone who knows the truth. |
| dgersh22 |
Posted - 02/13/2017 : 16:25:26
Ryno23, I can't agree with you more!
"And honestly, I would love to be more engaging on this site....just seems like some folks want to hijack majority of the threads and make them their own."
Seems like there is some people that know everything from coaches, to instruction, to what tournaments to play in all the way down to how to get your son to play college baseball- heck this person even knows how to get stains out of pants!
That is why I don't reply to a lot of threads! |
| Ryno23 |
Posted - 02/13/2017 : 14:17:36
My son's school season starts this week. While only 16 games slated for the JV schedule, he's extremely excited to have earned the starting catching position. The team has played a couple of inter-squad and scrimmage games, as everyone knows that early in the season that pitching has the advantage. He has gone 2-7 with a couple of line outs and strike outs, the varsity coach has seem to back off a bit with his critiquing of the swing. There has been no discussions with the coach and my son in regards to the details of his swing, or the mentioning of working under the tutelage of his travel ball coach. Ultimately, this will more than likely be my son's high school baseball coach for the next four seasons and his intentions seem to be with nothing but positive results. As a father, I wanted this to be a life learning experience on how to handle uncomfortable situations and for me to provide him with suggestions on how to handle it.
I appreciate everyone's input, even though a few responses got a bit off track I want to thank everyone for their input.
And honestly, I would love to be more engaging on this site....just seems like some folks want to hijack majority of the threads and make them their own. |
| CaCO3Girl |
Posted - 02/13/2017 : 11:44:03
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Originally posted by ABC_Baseball
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Originally posted by Crazyforbball
What are people's thoughts with regard to batting in general at any age? Is it like speed or crazy good fielding where you've either got it or you don't? No amount of "speed and agility" training will make the slow, clumsy kid lightning fast, or give the fielder those gut instincts and reflexes...but as for batting: is it in a category where, with enough proper instruction on said mechanics, you can create power and fast hands via muscle memory? I've seen a ton of high school players who just can't make it happen no matter the hours in the cage with the pro. But...if mad talent fielding/pitching/speed then not so important? Honestly curious! Input appreciated! And if HS coach giving crazy instruction on hitting vs travel coach but kid is amazing fielder or pitcher does the hitting determine going to the next level or not? Thanks!
While hitting is a tool that all players at some point have to learn, I think you either have it or you don't (at least the potential to be a good hitter). I've seen a kid get to travel ball a little late and struggle one year, improve the next year and be a stud in year three. The transition from rec ball and coach pitch is real and can be a challenge.
Training does play a role in hitting, but I think the vast majority of it is just a players natural feel and ability for it. Do they have the hands and reflexes for it? Do they see the ball well? Do they make good decisions quickly? At the end of the day we are talking about razor thin margins. Think about a guy that hits .275 in the majors vs a guys that hist .240. That difference can be 19/20 hits more in the same number of at bats.
Power does count a lot, but all hitters are different. Personally, I value a high average/OBP and low strike out numbers vs. home runs. I know I have seen a lot of kids that can't lay off the ball in their eyes. Granted we are talking about kids under high school age and that discipline can be developed. I think it does speak loudly when you have young kids that show great plate discipline and understanding of the strike zone. I love nothing more than to see a good hitter frustrate a pitcher.
Providing the umpire is seeing the same strike zone. All I can ask from an ump is that they are consistent. If low and inside is a strike from batter one then fine, it is what it is, the batter must adapt.
Nothing bothers me more than to see a batter take the pitcher to a full count, then foul a couple off, and be rung up on a pitch that was obviously a ball. Kind of makes me wonder if that's why the QAB stat was invented. |
| ABC_Baseball |
Posted - 02/13/2017 : 10:00:26
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Originally posted by Crazyforbball
What are people's thoughts with regard to batting in general at any age? Is it like speed or crazy good fielding where you've either got it or you don't? No amount of "speed and agility" training will make the slow, clumsy kid lightning fast, or give the fielder those gut instincts and reflexes...but as for batting: is it in a category where, with enough proper instruction on said mechanics, you can create power and fast hands via muscle memory? I've seen a ton of high school players who just can't make it happen no matter the hours in the cage with the pro. But...if mad talent fielding/pitching/speed then not so important? Honestly curious! Input appreciated! And if HS coach giving crazy instruction on hitting vs travel coach but kid is amazing fielder or pitcher does the hitting determine going to the next level or not? Thanks!
While hitting is a tool that all players at some point have to learn, I think you either have it or you don't (at least the potential to be a good hitter). I've seen a kid get to travel ball a little late and struggle one year, improve the next year and be a stud in year three. The transition from rec ball and coach pitch is real and can be a challenge.
Training does play a role in hitting, but I think the vast majority of it is just a players natural feel and ability for it. Do they have the hands and reflexes for it? Do they see the ball well? Do they make good decisions quickly? At the end of the day we are talking about razor thin margins. Think about a guy that hits .275 in the majors vs a guys that hist .240. That difference can be 19/20 hits more in the same number of at bats.
Power does count a lot, but all hitters are different. Personally, I value a high average/OBP and low strike out numbers vs. home runs. I know I have seen a lot of kids that can't lay off the ball in their eyes. Granted we are talking about kids under high school age and that discipline can be developed. I think it does speak loudly when you have young kids that show great plate discipline and understanding of the strike zone. I love nothing more than to see a good hitter frustrate a pitcher.
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| whits23 |
Posted - 02/13/2017 : 09:43:52
By this age I.E. Varsity age opinions from anyone is a mite point. It's between players and coaches not parents, let go. Drop the rock Let you ur son's life journey begin |
| CaCO3Girl |
Posted - 02/13/2017 : 07:48:20
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Originally posted by Crazyforbball
What are people's thoughts with regard to batting in general at any age? Is it like speed or crazy good fielding where you've either got it or you don't? No amount of "speed and agility" training will make the slow, clumsy kid lightning fast, or give the fielder those gut instincts and reflexes...but as for batting: is it in a category where, with enough proper instruction on said mechanics, you can create power and fast hands via muscle memory? I've seen a ton of high school players who just can't make it happen no matter the hours in the cage with the pro. But...if mad talent fielding/pitching/speed then not so important? Honestly curious! Input appreciated! And if HS coach giving crazy instruction on hitting vs travel coach but kid is amazing fielder or pitcher does the hitting determine going to the next level or not? Thanks!
1. Yes, you either have good hitting or you don't, this is one of the key reasons you see a mass exodus at around 14u. People realize they can't swing as fast as the ball is coming in.
2. The HS season isn't really that long. If the player is receiving "crazy instruction" from the HS coach hopefully they are able to forget it all by the time they get back to TB.
3. If kid is amazing fielder the hitting will matter greatly getting to the next level, but that is usually determined in the TB season, not the HS season. The hitting ability of a pitcher rarely matters in whether or not he moves to the next level. |
| ecb7 |
Posted - 02/12/2017 : 21:54:32
Please realize a majority of the high school coaches have good intentions by few have the experience and skill level to help improve your son skill level. Everything is up to the parents and player regarding development and recruiting. I have a Senior in High School this year and he's been started for last 3 years on Varsity hitting a team leading Batting Average of over .400 for last 3 season at high classification in Georgia. This will give idea how crazy high school baseball can be my son has been starting at SS, and 3B for last 3 years with highest fielding % and got moved to Outfield in his Senior Year? He's ranked one of the Top MIF according to Perfect Game in GA and has several Division I offers to play at next level and the new starters in our infield won't play past High School. Bottom line High School ball means nothing besides playing with his buddies he grew up with and trying to win a State Championship it's all about Summer Travel Ball and Showcases. Make sure to Prepare your son to test well in 60 Yard Dash, Velocity Test , and improve hitting skills. Take some of these High School Coaches advice for a Grain of Salt. Have a Great Season!! |
| tbaillie2 |
Posted - 02/12/2017 : 21:39:37
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Originally posted by Punishers
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Originally posted by tbaillie2
A good coach is a good coach, whether that be a mom, dad, social study teacher, paid 'travel' coach, college coach, etc.
A bad coach is a bad coach, whether that be a mom, dad, social study teacher, paid 'travel' coach, college coach, etc.
What that coach hit as a player is maybe the most laughable point of coach quality I could imagine.
I'm going thru this teaching by example phase. A coach could give instruction all day until he is blue in the face, but kids are visual and want to see an example. Next time a coach gives instruction on a kid that is producing with his bat on batting. Give the coach the bat and say "show me with live BP". My coaches did it 20 plus years ago. Should not be any different now. When a kid sees a coach do it, it's easy for them to buy into what the coach is teaching. That trust factor is being established.
Again - that's fine, teaching by example is a fine way to do it, but it's hardly the only proven way. At the highest levels it's pretty common the greatest coaches and teachers of the game were not the greatest of player (at whatever level they ended up at). If you aren't a good communicator, you're not going to be a good coach - regardless of knowledge. Obviously a baseline of knowledge of the game is needed and changes/increases at higher levels. But to suggest the batting average of a coach at whatever level is a barometer is laughable. |
| Punishers |
Posted - 02/12/2017 : 20:58:31
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Originally posted by tbaillie2
A good coach is a good coach, whether that be a mom, dad, social study teacher, paid 'travel' coach, college coach, etc.
A bad coach is a bad coach, whether that be a mom, dad, social study teacher, paid 'travel' coach, college coach, etc.
What that coach hit as a player is maybe the most laughable point of coach quality I could imagine.
I'm going thru this teaching by example phase. A coach could give instruction all day until he is blue in the face, but kids are visual and want to see an example. Next time a coach gives instruction on a kid that is producing with his bat on batting. Give the coach the bat and say "show me with live BP". My coaches did it 20 plus years ago. Should not be any different now. When a kid sees a coach do it, it's easy for them to buy into what the coach is teaching. That trust factor is being established. |
| Crazyforbball |
Posted - 02/12/2017 : 18:11:06
What are people's thoughts with regard to batting in general at any age? Is it like speed or crazy good fielding where you've either got it or you don't? No amount of "speed and agility" training will make the slow, clumsy kid lightning fast, or give the fielder those gut instincts and reflexes...but as for batting: is it in a category where, with enough proper instruction on said mechanics, you can create power and fast hands via muscle memory? I've seen a ton of high school players who just can't make it happen no matter the hours in the cage with the pro. But...if mad talent fielding/pitching/speed then not so important? Honestly curious! Input appreciated! And if HS coach giving crazy instruction on hitting vs travel coach but kid is amazing fielder or pitcher does the hitting determine going to the next level or not? Thanks! |
| TRB |
Posted - 02/10/2017 : 15:01:06
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Originally posted by CaCO3Girl
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Originally posted by TRB
I thought I was pretty clear and even re read to make sure that it wouldn't be confusing. As I said, if a 9U kids swing is right, or correct, then the mechanics of that swing will be similar to a 17u player. As I also said, obviously a 17u should be more polished, but the nuts and bolts of the swing will be the same. It's not possible to be mechanically correct at one age and then that same swing be mechanically incorrect. That doesn't make sense by any definition. If you want to argue if a 9u is strong enough to swing mechanically correct and hit with power, you could. There is no argument that swing mechanics are swing mechanics. As I also said, kids do some things differently but in the end the actual process of swinging a bat correctly is pretty cut and dry. We're not reinventing the wheel.
Okay, new approach. What percentage of 9u kids have you seen swing right?
That's a different subject entirely and not the point that I was trying to make. I hate to be a broken record but the point is, if the swing mechanics are correct the swing will look similar from age to age. If you want to talk about how their head is and their stance then that has nothing to do with mechanics. I'll play along though, not very many of them do. |
| oneZone |
Posted - 02/10/2017 : 13:34:39
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Originally posted by tbaillie2
A good coach is a good coach, whether that be a mom, dad, social study teacher, paid 'travel' coach, college coach, etc.
A bad coach is a bad coach, whether that be a mom, dad, social study teacher, paid 'travel' coach, college coach, etc.
What that coach hit as a player is maybe the most laughable point of coach quality I could imagine.
Exactly right, thank you! |
| CaCO3Girl |
Posted - 02/10/2017 : 13:03:34
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Originally posted by TRB
I thought I was pretty clear and even re read to make sure that it wouldn't be confusing. As I said, if a 9U kids swing is right, or correct, then the mechanics of that swing will be similar to a 17u player. As I also said, obviously a 17u should be more polished, but the nuts and bolts of the swing will be the same. It's not possible to be mechanically correct at one age and then that same swing be mechanically incorrect. That doesn't make sense by any definition. If you want to argue if a 9u is strong enough to swing mechanically correct and hit with power, you could. There is no argument that swing mechanics are swing mechanics. As I also said, kids do some things differently but in the end the actual process of swinging a bat correctly is pretty cut and dry. We're not reinventing the wheel.
Okay, new approach. What percentage of 9u kids have you seen swing right? |
| tbaillie2 |
Posted - 02/10/2017 : 11:21:01
A good coach is a good coach, whether that be a mom, dad, social study teacher, paid 'travel' coach, college coach, etc.
A bad coach is a bad coach, whether that be a mom, dad, social study teacher, paid 'travel' coach, college coach, etc.
What that coach hit as a player is maybe the most laughable point of coach quality I could imagine. |
| TRB |
Posted - 02/10/2017 : 10:07:23
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Originally posted by CaCO3Girl
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Originally posted by TRB
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Originally posted by CaCO3Girl
The thing about hitting is that the player has to be able to adapt. The swing that works at 9u likely won't work at 12u. The swing that works at 12u, likely won't work at 16u.
Some kids make their swings an ornate process. There is a lifting of the leg, a massive shift backwards, their elbows are doing weird things, maybe they are starting with their bat up high, or bat on shoulder....etc. That will all work just fine, and maybe even well, with 60mph pitching. However, there isn't time to do all that when the ball is barrelling at you at 85+mph, and that can come as early as 14u.
I've seen more than one kid swing late because by the time he recognized the pitch and did all his stepping, arm tweaking stuff, the ball had already gone by.
Hitting mechanics are hitting mechanics regardless of how old you are.
Sure your body goes through changes, but at the end of the day the basics of a swing remain the same. People use different methods to get to a certain point, but in the end if the swing is right, the mechanics will be similar at age 9 as they are at 17. Obviously you should be more polished the older you get but the basics of it should be similar if you're swinging it correctly.
If a person has holes in their swing then eventually it will catch up with them. Hitting a fastball is timing. Timing can be affected by the mechanics of a persons swing. Regardless of how bad the swing is, you can still catch up to a fastball if the timing is adjusted by the hitter.
You must be watching different kids than me. In your scenario if a 9u mechanics are similar to 17u, then a 17u mechanics should be similar to a 9u kid. I just saw an 8u game and none of those kids were swinging/moving like the Varsity high school kids. Their hips, their feet, their elbows, even their heads are doing very different things. The only similarity I saw was that there was a long metal object making contact with a circular white ball.
I thought I was pretty clear and even re read to make sure that it wouldn't be confusing. As I said, if a 9U kids swing is right, or correct, then the mechanics of that swing will be similar to a 17u player. As I also said, obviously a 17u should be more polished, but the nuts and bolts of the swing will be the same. It's not possible to be mechanically correct at one age and then that same swing be mechanically incorrect. That doesn't make sense by any definition. If you want to argue if a 9u is strong enough to swing mechanically correct and hit with power, you could. There is no argument that swing mechanics are swing mechanics. As I also said, kids do some things differently but in the end the actual process of swinging a bat correctly is pretty cut and dry. We're not reinventing the wheel. |
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