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| CaCO3Girl |
Posted - 08/09/2016 : 08:54:08
Does anyone know any Georgia rules about playing High School Football AND Travel Ball in the Fall? |
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| CaCO3Girl |
Posted - 08/29/2016 : 07:55:09
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Originally posted by in_the_know
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Originally posted by Renegade44
"That is why I say if you transfer from one school to another no matter if you moved or not you should have to sit a whole season from sports. That would change some things."
That's right because all high school coaches in every sport are so open minded and responsible that they would never place your kid in a nepotistic situation, or in a favoritism situation, or in a booster donation preference situation. Yes absolutely the high school coach should be able to lock your kid down from 9th grade for four years under penalty of sit out a year. I couldn't think of any better situation to put my kid in. I pray for the day that the local high school coach has such power to do whatever he pleases cause you have no personal options of freedom.
Open up the process. Go where ever suits you. That's the way it should be.
While I agree that, at face value, this would solve a couple of problems, related only to sports, it would create so many more issues related to both sports and academics that the downside is so much more significant than any potential benefit. If you really sit down and think through all the pros and cons, I believe it will be very evident to you how bad an idea this is.
Agree, this concept is alive and well in the College world of sports and it has backfired horribly on multiple occasions. |
| in_the_know |
Posted - 08/28/2016 : 12:11:10
quote:
Originally posted by Renegade44
"That is why I say if you transfer from one school to another no matter if you moved or not you should have to sit a whole season from sports. That would change some things."
That's right because all high school coaches in every sport are so open minded and responsible that they would never place your kid in a nepotistic situation, or in a favoritism situation, or in a booster donation preference situation. Yes absolutely the high school coach should be able to lock your kid down from 9th grade for four years under penalty of sit out a year. I couldn't think of any better situation to put my kid in. I pray for the day that the local high school coach has such power to do whatever he pleases cause you have no personal options of freedom.
Open up the process. Go where ever suits you. That's the way it should be.
While I agree that, at face value, this would solve a couple of problems, related only to sports, it would create so many more issues related to both sports and academics that the downside is so much more significant than any potential benefit. If you really sit down and think through all the pros and cons, I believe it will be very evident to you how bad an idea this is. |
| Renegade44 |
Posted - 08/27/2016 : 10:08:26
"That is why I say if you transfer from one school to another no matter if you moved or not you should have to sit a whole season from sports. That would change some things."
That's right because all high school coaches in every sport are so open minded and responsible that they would never place your kid in a nepotistic situation, or in a favoritism situation, or in a booster donation preference situation. Yes absolutely the high school coach should be able to lock your kid down from 9th grade for four years under penalty of sit out a year. I couldn't think of any better situation to put my kid in. I pray for the day that the local high school coach has such power to do whatever he pleases cause you have no personal options of freedom.
Open up the process. Go where ever suits you. That's the way it should be.
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| sebaseball |
Posted - 08/26/2016 : 16:23:22
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Originally posted by TRB
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Originally posted by sebaseball
Take a gander at the movie "The Junction Boys" and you'll understand just how soft it's gotten. If I'm not bad wrong, most all of the guys who made it through that team camp went on to become ultrasuccessful businessmen with many of them millionaires.
Do you happen to be on BOL or Rivals with the same name?
No, I'm not familiar with either of those sites. Guess the ol' adage that everybody has a twin somewhere is true.... |
| HeyBlue |
Posted - 08/26/2016 : 14:17:54
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Originally posted by Hurricane
well on the limited practices rules, etc. You go a few Cobb County schools I can tell you for a fact they are practicing longer than they should. Meeting on Sundays which is an no no but hey its all about winning. Everyone will use any advantage to win.
That is why I say if you transfer from one school to another no matter if you moved or not you should have to sit a whole season from sports. That would change some things.
since when is meeting on a Sunday a no no? |
| Hurricane |
Posted - 08/24/2016 : 15:46:14
well on the limited practices rules, etc. You go a few Cobb County schools I can tell you for a fact they are practicing longer than they should. Meeting on Sundays which is an no no but hey its all about winning. Everyone will use any advantage to win.
That is why I say if you transfer from one school to another no matter if you moved or not you should have to sit a whole season from sports. That would change some things.
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| TRB |
Posted - 08/24/2016 : 13:24:28
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Originally posted by sebaseball
Take a gander at the movie "The Junction Boys" and you'll understand just how soft it's gotten. If I'm not bad wrong, most all of the guys who made it through that team camp went on to become ultrasuccessful businessmen with many of them millionaires.
Do you happen to be on BOL or Rivals with the same name? |
| hshuler |
Posted - 08/24/2016 : 13:11:09
As a former football player, I am happy to see the limitations in practice contact. The problem is, just like in travel baseball or any other sport, some coaches will cross the line.
I've heard of 9th graders who were used as practice dummies for the varsity until the rule change. As the parent of a 9th grader, I can appreciate him not getting battered and bruised in practice...and trust me, I am not a soft parent but some things just make sense. |
| sebaseball |
Posted - 08/23/2016 : 21:52:29
Take a gander at the movie "The Junction Boys" and you'll understand just how soft it's gotten. If I'm not bad wrong, most all of the guys who made it through that team camp went on to become ultrasuccessful businessmen with many of them millionaires. |
| CaCO3Girl |
Posted - 08/23/2016 : 10:19:28
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Originally posted by HeyBlue
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Originally posted by jaguars18
Do not believe the hype hurricane. I doubt any football kids are going to practice 6-8 running 3 miles and doing homework. Then getting up at 6am for the squat session in the weight room and then doing the 11 am PE..cough cough..weightlifting class. Rinse wash and repeat LOL
The new GHSA football limits on contact have severely lowered the quality of football practice. It's more like powder puff now.
This is the first year my son has played football. If this is limited contact I would have hated to see past years *shudder*
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| HeyBlue |
Posted - 08/23/2016 : 09:38:07
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Originally posted by jaguars18
Do not believe the hype hurricane. I doubt any football kids are going to practice 6-8 running 3 miles and doing homework. Then getting up at 6am for the squat session in the weight room and then doing the 11 am PE..cough cough..weightlifting class. Rinse wash and repeat LOL
The new GHSA football limits on contact have severely lowered the quality of football practice. It's more like powder puff now. |
| CaCO3Girl |
Posted - 08/23/2016 : 08:05:14
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Originally posted by Hurricane
LOL Maybe my kids high school has adults running the sports program? As for my kids energy levels...gesh, it's absurd. He often will go run for a couple miles AFTER football practice. I have no words!
Believe me you are in for a shock! I have no idea what school your son attends but your views on baseball and coaches are about to change in the next few years. I wish only I could go back and copy and paste every post you have ever made and let you re read those in 5 years. I just don't have a hard drive big enough. Love your comments and input on this board but believe me just hang on to your hat. Who knows though maybe I am wrong I usually am, but we will see I guess.
So far the football coach and the baseball coach seem to be in sync. So far my son has not complained about practices and has worked out more on his own outside of practice. And so far I don't have a problem with a high school coach. All of that could change next week, and if and when that happens I would be glad to post different opinions.
Jag, my son doesn't do a 6am squat session, nor does he have a weightlifting class. |
| jaguars18 |
Posted - 08/22/2016 : 19:48:49
Do not believe the hype hurricane. I doubt any football kids are going to practice 6-8 running 3 miles and doing homework. Then getting up at 6am for the squat session in the weight room and then doing the 11 am PE..cough cough..weightlifting class. Rinse wash and repeat LOL |
| Hurricane |
Posted - 08/22/2016 : 13:08:04
LOL Maybe my kids high school has adults running the sports program? As for my kids energy levels...gesh, it's absurd. He often will go run for a couple miles AFTER football practice. I have no words!
Believe me you are in for a shock! I have no idea what school your son attends but your views on baseball and coaches are about to change in the next few years. I wish only I could go back and copy and paste every post you have ever made and let you re read those in 5 years. I just don't have a hard drive big enough. Love your comments and input on this board but believe me just hang on to your hat. Who knows though maybe I am wrong I usually am, but we will see I guess.
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| CaCO3Girl |
Posted - 08/11/2016 : 12:47:29
When my son originally asked to play football in May I contacted the coach because travel ball was in FULL swing. His response was "I understand what season it is and we want him when we can have him, the only thing I ask for is COMMUNICATION, I need to know when he won't be here."
I updated him on out of town baseball trips and we haven't spoken of it again. When my son asked the HS baseball coach if there was any problem with him playing football in 9th grade he said "Absolutely no problem, we like our players to play either football or cross country in the fall, it keeps them in shape."
Maybe my kids high school has adults running the sports program? As for my kids energy levels...gesh, it's absurd. He often will go run for a couple miles AFTER football practice. I have no words! |
| hshuler |
Posted - 08/11/2016 : 09:23:02
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Originally posted by sebaseball
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Originally posted by hshuler
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Originally posted by sebaseball
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Interesting take. He's been told he will be on the field 90% of the time for the Freshman team in various positions. Football is new, he really likes it, but baseball is his first love. I think Freshman football has 6 maybe 7 games total.
So, he should be talking to his football coach about fall travel ball? I thought maybe as long as he made football the priority then there was nothing to talk about...am I wrong in that?
I've been on the sidelines and in the offices with football coaches off & on for the better part of 20 years. Of course, every coach is an individual, but as a whole, the overall mentality of football coaches is much more intense and singularly focused on their sport. That has gotten worse over the years as the push to win every year at the HS level has increased. As a whole, HS football has become a full-time job for the players mainly because of the pressure to win and the coaches inherently knowing that their job and their family's livelihood is on the line. It's accepted (but shouldn't be IMO) that baseball players will have to go through full contact spring practice during the baseball season, but the reverse isn't so welcomed. However, with many schools opting out of spring practice for an extra scrimmage game that's become less of an issue these days.
I just believe that having a conversation on the front-end even if it's a "hey coach, just wanted to let you know that I'm playing fall ball on Saturdays, but it won't interfere in anyway with my commitment to the football team" will go a long way in heading off any potential issues. But there is going to come a time, probably this summer, where the football schedule is going to make it very difficult for him to play both sports. There is no off-season with football anymore with summer workouts, passing leagues, OTA's, etc. and the expectation to be at all football activities is made very well known. With so many of the HS age tourneys being weekday events, those interfere with the football schedule and that leads to direct conflict. Sad that this is where it's at, but it is what it is.
I didn't think baseball players were allowed to participate in spring practice as long as they were still playing. Just as they aren't allowed to participate in any supervised baseball activities during football in the fall.
If that's the case, it's a school/coaches decision. To my knowledge there is no GHSA rule against it and I've yet to come across a school where the baseball players who play football weren't required to participate in spring practice. But maybe that's just how it's done in SGA vs NGA.
Got it - thanks!
I will see what I can find out and provide more info. |
| sebaseball |
Posted - 08/11/2016 : 08:44:16
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Originally posted by hshuler
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Originally posted by sebaseball
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Interesting take. He's been told he will be on the field 90% of the time for the Freshman team in various positions. Football is new, he really likes it, but baseball is his first love. I think Freshman football has 6 maybe 7 games total.
So, he should be talking to his football coach about fall travel ball? I thought maybe as long as he made football the priority then there was nothing to talk about...am I wrong in that?
I've been on the sidelines and in the offices with football coaches off & on for the better part of 20 years. Of course, every coach is an individual, but as a whole, the overall mentality of football coaches is much more intense and singularly focused on their sport. That has gotten worse over the years as the push to win every year at the HS level has increased. As a whole, HS football has become a full-time job for the players mainly because of the pressure to win and the coaches inherently knowing that their job and their family's livelihood is on the line. It's accepted (but shouldn't be IMO) that baseball players will have to go through full contact spring practice during the baseball season, but the reverse isn't so welcomed. However, with many schools opting out of spring practice for an extra scrimmage game that's become less of an issue these days.
I just believe that having a conversation on the front-end even if it's a "hey coach, just wanted to let you know that I'm playing fall ball on Saturdays, but it won't interfere in anyway with my commitment to the football team" will go a long way in heading off any potential issues. But there is going to come a time, probably this summer, where the football schedule is going to make it very difficult for him to play both sports. There is no off-season with football anymore with summer workouts, passing leagues, OTA's, etc. and the expectation to be at all football activities is made very well known. With so many of the HS age tourneys being weekday events, those interfere with the football schedule and that leads to direct conflict. Sad that this is where it's at, but it is what it is.
I didn't think baseball players were allowed to participate in spring practice as long as they were still playing. Just as they aren't allowed to participate in any supervised baseball activities during football in the fall.
If that's the case, it's a school/coaches decision. To my knowledge there is no GHSA rule against it and I've yet to come across a school where the baseball players who play football weren't required to participate in spring practice. But maybe that's just how it's done in SGA vs NGA. |
| BBmomof2 |
Posted - 08/11/2016 : 08:31:21
As a son who has played both sports at the Varsity level, it can be done when they are playing Freshman or JV football since these games are played on Thursday nights. When they move to Varsity and are playing on Friday night they are only able to play baseball on Sunday. Usually the Varsity players are required to be back at the school on Saturday morning for stretching, game review, etc. Plus, if your son played Friday night, he will be tired the next day. Your head football coach won't like it for the reasons already stated and will probably tell your son he doesn't allow it but there are no official rules against it. |
| hshuler |
Posted - 08/10/2016 : 17:35:06
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Originally posted by sebaseball
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Interesting take. He's been told he will be on the field 90% of the time for the Freshman team in various positions. Football is new, he really likes it, but baseball is his first love. I think Freshman football has 6 maybe 7 games total.
So, he should be talking to his football coach about fall travel ball? I thought maybe as long as he made football the priority then there was nothing to talk about...am I wrong in that?
I've been on the sidelines and in the offices with football coaches off & on for the better part of 20 years. Of course, every coach is an individual, but as a whole, the overall mentality of football coaches is much more intense and singularly focused on their sport. That has gotten worse over the years as the push to win every year at the HS level has increased. As a whole, HS football has become a full-time job for the players mainly because of the pressure to win and the coaches inherently knowing that their job and their family's livelihood is on the line. It's accepted (but shouldn't be IMO) that baseball players will have to go through full contact spring practice during the baseball season, but the reverse isn't so welcomed. However, with many schools opting out of spring practice for an extra scrimmage game that's become less of an issue these days.
I just believe that having a conversation on the front-end even if it's a "hey coach, just wanted to let you know that I'm playing fall ball on Saturdays, but it won't interfere in anyway with my commitment to the football team" will go a long way in heading off any potential issues. But there is going to come a time, probably this summer, where the football schedule is going to make it very difficult for him to play both sports. There is no off-season with football anymore with summer workouts, passing leagues, OTA's, etc. and the expectation to be at all football activities is made very well known. With so many of the HS age tourneys being weekday events, those interfere with the football schedule and that leads to direct conflict. Sad that this is where it's at, but it is what it is.
I didn't think baseball players were allowed to participate in spring practice as long as they were still playing. Just as they aren't allowed to participate in any supervised baseball activities during football in the fall.
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| HeyBlue |
Posted - 08/10/2016 : 14:29:39
talk to the football coach on this one....and I can't imagine having that kind of energy, when I got home from football practice I ate everything in the fridge |
| SSBuckeye |
Posted - 08/10/2016 : 12:36:51
Nothing to talk about in my opinion. Kids have been doing both in the fall ever since I coached a fall pickup team beginning back in 2011. Football kids could come when they could. Mostly Sundays, but often Saturdays for those motivated enough to do it. This is 100% a family decision in my view. |
| bballman |
Posted - 08/10/2016 : 10:27:45
There are no GHSA rules about doing both. It's a matter of being courteous to the coach. I think if there are no conflicts, no harm no foul. The only GHSA rules revolve around playing the same sport somewhere else during that sport's season in progress. |
| sebaseball |
Posted - 08/10/2016 : 09:26:05
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Interesting take. He's been told he will be on the field 90% of the time for the Freshman team in various positions. Football is new, he really likes it, but baseball is his first love. I think Freshman football has 6 maybe 7 games total.
So, he should be talking to his football coach about fall travel ball? I thought maybe as long as he made football the priority then there was nothing to talk about...am I wrong in that?
I've been on the sidelines and in the offices with football coaches off & on for the better part of 20 years. Of course, every coach is an individual, but as a whole, the overall mentality of football coaches is much more intense and singularly focused on their sport. That has gotten worse over the years as the push to win every year at the HS level has increased. As a whole, HS football has become a full-time job for the players mainly because of the pressure to win and the coaches inherently knowing that their job and their family's livelihood is on the line. It's accepted (but shouldn't be IMO) that baseball players will have to go through full contact spring practice during the baseball season, but the reverse isn't so welcomed. However, with many schools opting out of spring practice for an extra scrimmage game that's become less of an issue these days.
I just believe that having a conversation on the front-end even if it's a "hey coach, just wanted to let you know that I'm playing fall ball on Saturdays, but it won't interfere in anyway with my commitment to the football team" will go a long way in heading off any potential issues. But there is going to come a time, probably this summer, where the football schedule is going to make it very difficult for him to play both sports. There is no off-season with football anymore with summer workouts, passing leagues, OTA's, etc. and the expectation to be at all football activities is made very well known. With so many of the HS age tourneys being weekday events, those interfere with the football schedule and that leads to direct conflict. Sad that this is where it's at, but it is what it is. |
| ballfamily1 |
Posted - 08/10/2016 : 09:04:57
whits23 is correct on this one |
| CaCO3Girl |
Posted - 08/10/2016 : 07:56:43
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Originally posted by sebaseball
If your son is on the path to being a starter or a major contributor during his HS days, then playing travel anything during his main season is a risk. Along the lines of In The Know, if he gets hurt playing baseball and has to miss time in football, that is going to be a huge negative with the coaches going forward. But, if he's deadset on playing fall ball, he at least needs to go talk it over with the FB coach and see if he can get his blessings. Otherwise, you're just setting up a situation that isn't going to go well. Even if he didn't get hurt and the FB coach found out, I could easily hear him say something along the lines of "if you have that much energy on the weekends, you aren't working/playing hard enough on the FB field".
Interesting take. He's been told he will be on the field 90% of the time for the Freshman team in various positions. Football is new, he really likes it, but baseball is his first love. I think Freshman football has 6 maybe 7 games total.
So, he should be talking to his football coach about fall travel ball? I thought maybe as long as he made football the priority then there was nothing to talk about...am I wrong in that? |
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