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| tdt9080 |
Posted - 07/18/2016 : 17:17:36
Hi to all, I am asking does anyone know of someone who can help with kids 8&under baseball swings. I am looking for someone to help with my kids this off season to help them generate consistent swings and a basic approach at the plate. We are located on the South Side near the Airport just so you have an idea of were we are at. If you have any suggestions please respond here or via my email at tarveresdtate@gmail.com
My parents have asked for some assistance and I would love to find someone who really wants to invest in helping kids develop.
Thanks in advance |
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| tdt9080 |
Posted - 07/20/2016 : 12:06:43
Caco3Girl _ I do work with the kids and I do help instruct them on their swings, But I am looking for some assistance in helping them improve that aspect of their game. I not once said they were are getting a private instructor just someone who can show myself and the parents a better way to help the kid have success. I don't think their is an issue with helping kids get better at any age and fun is the main part of what we do but with fun, teaching proper mechanic I think should be taught. If their is a way I can get better as a coach as well as the kids I don't see the issue. We are not looking to go 2 -3 days a week to a coach just someone to help with basic fundamental to give us and their parents stuff to work with them on at home and practice. I am surprised this was an issue in regards to helping kids improve. I believe if you are going to teach something please teach it right, so that it helps those you are intending it to help. |
| Cajunjeep |
Posted - 07/20/2016 : 12:05:57
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Originally posted by Crazyforbball
I think what caco3 means is when it's still coach pitch there aren't alot of fundamentals to learn since they're purposely being lobbed a ball so that they can hit it. Hitting off a T in the back yard is about all you need there for practicing a level swing. Now when you get to kid pitch, whole new situation as someone is trying to prevent you from hitting the ball. Maybe now a FEW lessons are in order. Just be careful not to get sucked into spending big $$ before you have to unless the kid is a complete wreck at the plate. You will spend a fortune down the line believe me lol!
I agree with CACO on the lessons.
you posted something that sticks out to me. At coach pitch there are the coaches that lob the ball and teach their kids to swing up to hit HR's. That ultimately hurts the kid. Why not teach a good fundamental swing and approach to younger kids? Our kids got straight fast pitching and are taught to hit line drives. The "Big Bombers" (both in terms of body and swings) we played rec with are now struggling on the bigger fields and many are out of baseball, because they cant hit kid pitch and are not athletic enough to hang.If someone would have taught them the fundamentals and a good approach some may still be playing.
OP- take your kid in the back yard and get him on a tee. If you truly dont feel like you have any idea of what to do, then get a few lessons and listen really well to what the pro is teaching. Spend the rest of the money that you would have spent on lessons and get a quality tee, net and balls to work in the backyard/basement. Then take the leftovers and take your kid to a ballgame for some memories.
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| HITANDRUN |
Posted - 07/20/2016 : 10:03:32
I think we are all part of the problem. I believe someone mentioned weight training at 12U. Until they have hair on their legs (9th grade usually) weight training is a waste of time anyway.
Everyone is in a rush to get started early. Now what I will say is if you are going to do something you might as well do it right. So why not start the baseball swing correctly. You look at some of the Russian Tennis facilities Spartak that put out the best players year after year and you see they don't compete early they take thousands of swings a day in slow motion to get the swing exactly right, only problem is maybe 1 person on this site every 10 years will have a son that makes it to the Major Leagues. So why not enjoy it and just have fun. All I am saying is everyone plays it may be 1 year 10 years minor leagues, hs or college, but most take it too seriously. I am sure all the sports are like this you just have to be realistic and know your child's personality and skills. I saw a documentary on Dominique Dawes yesterday saying her daughter will probably not do gymnastics and if she does it wont be at the degree she did it, just for fun. It is a game, have I been guilty of over doing it in the past of course. One last comment on hitting, 90% of successful hitting at the 13 and below level is not being scared to get hit by the ball. |
| Crazyforbball |
Posted - 07/19/2016 : 13:19:09
I think what caco3 means is when it's still coach pitch there aren't alot of fundamentals to learn since they're purposely being lobbed a ball so that they can hit it. Hitting off a T in the back yard is about all you need there for practicing a level swing. Now when you get to kid pitch, whole new situation as someone is trying to prevent you from hitting the ball. Maybe now a FEW lessons are in order. Just be careful not to get sucked into spending big $$ before you have to unless the kid is a complete wreck at the plate. You will spend a fortune down the line believe me lol! |
| oneZone |
Posted - 07/19/2016 : 13:10:42
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Originally posted by ballsandbats
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Originally posted by CaCO3Girl
Wow, any particular reason why you think kids that are 8 and under NEED to generate consistent swings and or have a basic approach at the plate other than see ball hit ball? Especially since 8 and under is coach pitch?
I agree with a lot of what you say, but this sentiment bothers me. I not infrequently hear people say all a young player needs to know is "see ball, hit ball." But if you're going to allow kids to do something, why not teach them the proper way to do it? When it's time to play, you don't tell 9 of them to just run onto the field and try to catch the ball. You teach them the positions, where to go, when to throw to first, second or third, how to run to first, how to properly catch a pop up, how to stand in the batters box, but suddenly, when it comes to the swing, don't worry about fundamentals...just swing and try to hit it. I once had a six year old who liked to throw underhanded from the outfield. Should I have let him continue doing that since the ball was getting where it needed to go? I've seen people "coach" with this philosophy and seen kids develop bad habits that take so much effort to correct when the "magical" age comes that it's ok to teach fundamentals. Show them how to do it properly the first time. Actually, the reality has been that coaches with that philosophy probably have that philosophy because they can't coach the fundamentals themselves. If you have a six year old who is stepping out when he swings but he's hitting the ball, should the coach not tell him to stop stepping out? I commend any parent who's seeks to have their kids taught properly, as long as the environment and the approach are age appropriate.
Exactly! Their swings will certainly evolve over time, but there is plenty of opportunity to guide them on the foundational stuff that will always be a part of their swing.
Now if you had said, "I couldn't justify spending hundreds of dollars on offseason batting lessons for my six-year-old," then that's different -- and I'd be with you on that one! |
| CaCO3Girl |
Posted - 07/19/2016 : 12:07:11
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Originally posted by ballsandbats
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Originally posted by CaCO3Girl
Wow, any particular reason why you think kids that are 8 and under NEED to generate consistent swings and or have a basic approach at the plate other than see ball hit ball? Especially since 8 and under is coach pitch?
I agree with a lot of what you say, but this sentiment bothers me. I not infrequently hear people say all a young player needs to know is "see ball, hit ball." But if you're going to allow kids to do something, why not teach them the proper way to do it? When it's time to play, you don't tell 9 of them to just run onto the field and try to catch the ball. You teach them the positions, where to go, when to throw to first, second or third, how to run to first, how to properly catch a pop up, how to stand in the batters box, but suddenly, when it comes to the swing, don't worry about fundamentals...just swing and try to hit it. I once had a six year old who liked to throw underhanded from the outfield. Should I have let him continue doing that since the ball was getting where it needed to go? I've seen people "coach" with this philosophy and seen kids develop bad habits that take so much effort to correct when the "magical" age comes that it's ok to teach fundamentals. Show them how to do it properly the first time. Actually, the reality has been that coaches with that philosophy probably have that philosophy because they can't coach the fundamentals themselves. If you have a six year old who is stepping out when he swings but he's hitting the ball, should the coach not tell him to stop stepping out? I commend any parent who's seeks to have their kids taught properly, as long as the environment and the approach are age appropriate.
ballsandbats, to each their own. I am a HUGE proponent of letting the kid learn at the ball park and not seeking out private lessons sub 12u, unless the kid is somehow physically hurting himself by throwing wrong or other such thing.
I believe in coaches coaching and that no 8u and under (wonder how far under the OP was talking about) child needs specialized instruction about baseball. Some kids are better than others, why not just let them be kids and enjoy the game? When does it stop? Does the 5 year old need pitching lessons next? How about the 7 year old getting strength training? (I actually saw this happen) It's a slippery slope. |
| ballsandbats |
Posted - 07/19/2016 : 10:59:05
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Originally posted by CaCO3Girl
Wow, any particular reason why you think kids that are 8 and under NEED to generate consistent swings and or have a basic approach at the plate other than see ball hit ball? Especially since 8 and under is coach pitch?
I agree with a lot of what you say, but this sentiment bothers me. I not infrequently hear people say all a young player needs to know is "see ball, hit ball." But if you're going to allow kids to do something, why not teach them the proper way to do it? When it's time to play, you don't tell 9 of them to just run onto the field and try to catch the ball. You teach them the positions, where to go, when to throw to first, second or third, how to run to first, how to properly catch a pop up, how to stand in the batters box, but suddenly, when it comes to the swing, don't worry about fundamentals...just swing and try to hit it. I once had a six year old who liked to throw underhanded from the outfield. Should I have let him continue doing that since the ball was getting where it needed to go? I've seen people "coach" with this philosophy and seen kids develop bad habits that take so much effort to correct when the "magical" age comes that it's ok to teach fundamentals. Show them how to do it properly the first time. Actually, the reality has been that coaches with that philosophy probably have that philosophy because they can't coach the fundamentals themselves. If you have a six year old who is stepping out when he swings but he's hitting the ball, should the coach not tell him to stop stepping out? I commend any parent who's seeks to have their kids taught properly, as long as the environment and the approach are age appropriate. |
| CaCO3Girl |
Posted - 07/19/2016 : 07:53:46
Wow, any particular reason why you think kids that are 8 and under NEED to generate consistent swings and or have a basic approach at the plate other than see ball hit ball? Especially since 8 and under is coach pitch? |
| unitedballers |
Posted - 07/18/2016 : 23:39:25
I would start with the site sponsors listed on the left and see if any are close to you. |
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