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| in_the_know |
Posted - 07/10/2016 : 09:30:35
Many of the HS parents are already aware of the D1 limitations, but I'm still surprised at how many I run across who don't. Most of the younger age parents don't have any idea what the real scholarship landscape is for baseball.
This article does a great job of spelling out the reality and disparity of baseball scholarships at the D1 level.
http://www.omaha.com/sports/cws/with-scholarship-limit-college-baseball-careers-come-with-a-cost/article_9c27f775-3564-5051-b7f9-f258c8c37fd1.html?mode=jqm |
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| Punishers |
Posted - 07/13/2016 : 01:21:16
I see baseball being cut from a lot of college programs in the near future at this rate. Most of use would rather watch a football or basketball game than a baseball game. NCAA is a monster machine that knows where it's revenue comes from. |
| CaCO3Girl |
Posted - 07/12/2016 : 15:07:14
I will say that many players decide to take easier majors, as do most non athletes. Max Pentecost played for team elite, passed on the 11th round option out of high school, attended KSU majoring in biochemistry, and would up being a first round draft pick.....it is easier to take an easier major but it isn't a necessity to play sports. |
| aj94 |
Posted - 07/11/2016 : 13:05:15
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Originally posted by in_the_know
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Originally posted by aj94
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Originally posted by in_the_know
Many of the HS parents are already aware of the D1 limitations, but I'm still surprised at how many I run across who don't. Most of the younger age parents don't have any idea what the real scholarship landscape is for baseball.
This article does a great job of spelling out the reality and disparity of baseball scholarships at the D1 level.
http://www.omaha.com/sports/cws/with-scholarship-limit-college-baseball-careers-come-with-a-cost/article_9c27f775-3564-5051-b7f9-f258c8c37fd1.html?mode=jqm
I knew about this and it just makes no sense. How can they use men's football and basketball revenues to fund full scholarships for women's sports but never thought to do the same for baseball?
As the article raises, title IX. If they add scholarships to ANY men's sports, there needs to be addition of equal number of women's sports. Since there are fewer women's sports in general, and Football consumes soooo many of the men's scholarships, they need to tweak down the number of men's athletic scholarships available. Obviously, those are taken from non-revenue generating sports, and revenue generating sports are used to fund as many women's scholarships as they can.
Many men's sports have simply been cut over the years (i.e., wrestling), due to the inability to fund them as well as the requisite women's sports that would also require funding.
In April of this year, Univ of North Dakota announced they were cutting Men's Baseball and Men's Golf from their program due to budget cuts. They are keeping the Men's and Women's core sports required to keep them in the Big Sky conference, but for them, golf isn't a core sport and Big Sky doesn't have baseball, so their baseball team was competing in the WAC.
Parents with matriculating athletes need to understand the difference between head count and equivalency sports, as well as the differences between DI, DII, DIII, NAIA, JuCO, etc., and plan accordingly.
That was my point that Title IX nonsense needs to be removed from college sports. |
| in_the_know |
Posted - 07/11/2016 : 11:14:26
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Originally posted by aj94
quote:
Originally posted by in_the_know
Many of the HS parents are already aware of the D1 limitations, but I'm still surprised at how many I run across who don't. Most of the younger age parents don't have any idea what the real scholarship landscape is for baseball.
This article does a great job of spelling out the reality and disparity of baseball scholarships at the D1 level.
http://www.omaha.com/sports/cws/with-scholarship-limit-college-baseball-careers-come-with-a-cost/article_9c27f775-3564-5051-b7f9-f258c8c37fd1.html?mode=jqm
I knew about this and it just makes no sense. How can they use men's football and basketball revenues to fund full scholarships for women's sports but never thought to do the same for baseball?
As the article raises, title IX. If they add scholarships to ANY men's sports, there needs to be addition of equal number of women's sports. Since there are fewer women's sports in general, and Football consumes soooo many of the men's scholarships, they need to tweak down the number of men's athletic scholarships available. Obviously, those are taken from non-revenue generating sports, and revenue generating sports are used to fund as many women's scholarships as they can.
Many men's sports have simply been cut over the years (i.e., wrestling), due to the inability to fund them as well as the requisite women's sports that would also require funding.
In April of this year, Univ of North Dakota announced they were cutting Men's Baseball and Men's Golf from their program due to budget cuts. They are keeping the Men's and Women's core sports required to keep them in the Big Sky conference, but for them, golf isn't a core sport and Big Sky doesn't have baseball, so their baseball team was competing in the WAC.
Parents with matriculating athletes need to understand the difference between head count and equivalency sports, as well as the differences between DI, DII, DIII, NAIA, JuCO, etc., and plan accordingly. |
| aj94 |
Posted - 07/11/2016 : 10:41:17
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Originally posted by in_the_know
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Originally posted by catmando
the other myth is that recruiters are trolling fields looking for kids when in reality they can not get paid back the cost of a tank of gas in most cases
Not necessarily a myth. If you're saying that scouts don't just randomly swing by high school fields, with no idea of who's playing, hoping to see something jump out at them, then you're correct.
If you're saying that recruiters aren't shagging from field to field all summer and spring, watching certain players during their travel and HS seasons, then you couldn't be more wrong.
This summer you will see literally hundreds of pro scouts and college recruiters at LakePoint and all surrounding fields watching the uncommitted 2017-2016's. At the PG Jr National, you saw hundreds of college recruiters, at the PG National, another hundred pro scouts. At Tournament of Stars there were well over a hundred pro scouts, crosscheckers and high level brass in attendance.
Recruiters spend nearly their entire time after their college season ends on the road. This is not a myth, it is a fact.
It seems to me like in_the_know was saying recruiters don't go around to various HS games trying to recruit players. I think everyone familiar with HS aged travel baseball knows that Perfect Game is probably the best way to be seen by a recruiter. |
| aj94 |
Posted - 07/11/2016 : 10:01:43
quote:
Originally posted by in_the_know
Many of the HS parents are already aware of the D1 limitations, but I'm still surprised at how many I run across who don't. Most of the younger age parents don't have any idea what the real scholarship landscape is for baseball.
This article does a great job of spelling out the reality and disparity of baseball scholarships at the D1 level.
http://www.omaha.com/sports/cws/with-scholarship-limit-college-baseball-careers-come-with-a-cost/article_9c27f775-3564-5051-b7f9-f258c8c37fd1.html?mode=jqm
I knew about this and it just makes no sense. How can they use men's football and basketball revenues to fund full scholarships for women's sports but never thought to do the same for baseball? |
| in_the_know |
Posted - 07/11/2016 : 09:44:42
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Originally posted by catmando
the other myth is that recruiters are trolling fields looking for kids when in reality they can not get paid back the cost of a tank of gas in most cases
Not necessarily a myth. If you're saying that scouts don't just randomly swing by high school fields, with no idea of who's playing, hoping to see something jump out at them, then you're correct.
If you're saying that recruiters aren't shagging from field to field all summer and spring, watching certain players during their travel and HS seasons, then you couldn't be more wrong.
This summer you will see literally hundreds of pro scouts and college recruiters at LakePoint and all surrounding fields watching the uncommitted 2017-2016's. At the PG Jr National, you saw hundreds of college recruiters, at the PG National, another hundred pro scouts. At Tournament of Stars there were well over a hundred pro scouts, crosscheckers and high level brass in attendance.
Recruiters spend nearly their entire time after their college season ends on the road. This is not a myth, it is a fact. |
| Punishers |
Posted - 07/11/2016 : 03:23:20
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Originally posted by in_the_know
Many of the HS parents are already aware of the D1 limitations, but I'm still surprised at how many I run across who don't. Most of the younger age parents don't have any idea what the real scholarship landscape is for baseball.
This article does a great job of spelling out the reality and disparity of baseball scholarships at the D1 level.
http://www.omaha.com/sports/cws/with-scholarship-limit-college-baseball-careers-come-with-a-cost/article_9c27f775-3564-5051-b7f9-f258c8c37fd1.html?mode=jqm
If the kid has the talent, makes sense to enter the draft. It's not like you see college baseball players majoring in engineering or any other high demand job field anyway. The days of full scholarships are long gone and will never return. Baseball has turned into a hobby sport. |
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