| T O P I C R E V I E W |
| 743 |
Posted - 03/11/2016 : 14:24:37
Should parents be allowed to talk to their kids on deck or in the dugout or take them drinks during a game? |
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| bfriendly |
Posted - 03/16/2016 : 21:07:03
^^^^LOVE IT!! |
| TaxiMom |
Posted - 03/16/2016 : 10:21:01
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Originally posted by CaCO3Girl
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Originally posted by bfriendly
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Originally posted by CaCO3Girl
1. If my son is catching, and IF it is a hot day (85+) I will pour cold water on his head and neck in between innings. He knows it's coming, and all I have to do is get his attention and he assumes the position off to the side of the dugout. There have been SEVERAL times when he was the only catcher not to overheat on his entire team.
First off B, you need to invest in a few Frogg Toggs chilling pads...........THen Share the Love! Last year, when it was really hot, I was cooling down All the catchers and anyone else that needed it.......Dip one of them things in a cooler and put it on their head like they do on TV(Braves games)........I kept a bunch of kids from over heating last year and will be ready to do it again, unless there is someone else in the dugout who will do it.
We've tried frog togs...it was a mess. He tried the whole get it wet and whip it around...it got hot again in about 20 seconds. He tried storing it in a cooler of ice water, again, didn't stay cold very long and the cooler was filthy! With dumping the water on his head off to the side we also didn't have to deal with a wet baseball dirt encrusted plastic sheet, or cooler. Even warm water helped drastically.
My catcher son uses a frog tog like skull cap -- in between innings, we keep it in a baggie in water, and keep the baggie on ice in the cooler. Works like a charm (change the water in the baggie every few innings). And it makes him look seriously bad ass when he takes his helmet off for a pop up. ;) |
| CaCO3Girl |
Posted - 03/16/2016 : 07:45:44
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Originally posted by bfriendly
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Originally posted by CaCO3Girl
I have two instances where I even think about approaching the dugout.
1. If my son is catching, and IF it is a hot day (85+) I will pour cold water on his head and neck in between innings. He knows it's coming, and all I have to do is get his attention and he assumes the position off to the side of the dugout. There have been SEVERAL times when he was the only catcher not to overheat on his entire team.
2. If he is injured I will do a casual stroll by the back of the dugout and will ask ONCE if he is okay. I do not go IN the dugout, or on the field.
So, my answer is, when it pertains to his health I will go near the dugout. However, it never has anything to do with coaching or giving him drinks.
First off B, you need to invest in a few Frogg Toggs chilling pads...........THen Share the Love! Last year, when it was really hot, I was cooling down All the catchers and anyone else that needed it.......Dip one of them things in a cooler and put it on their head like they do on TV(Braves games)........I kept a bunch of kids from over heating last year and will be ready to do it again, unless there is someone else in the dugout who will do it.
We've tried frog togs...it was a mess. He tried the whole get it wet and whip it around...it got hot again in about 20 seconds. He tried storing it in a cooler of ice water, again, didn't stay cold very long and the cooler was filthy! With dumping the water on his head off to the side we also didn't have to deal with a wet baseball dirt encrusted plastic sheet, or cooler. Even warm water helped drastically. |
| bfriendly |
Posted - 03/15/2016 : 22:25:37
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Originally posted by CaCO3Girl
I have two instances where I even think about approaching the dugout.
1. If my son is catching, and IF it is a hot day (85+) I will pour cold water on his head and neck in between innings. He knows it's coming, and all I have to do is get his attention and he assumes the position off to the side of the dugout. There have been SEVERAL times when he was the only catcher not to overheat on his entire team.
2. If he is injured I will do a casual stroll by the back of the dugout and will ask ONCE if he is okay. I do not go IN the dugout, or on the field.
So, my answer is, when it pertains to his health I will go near the dugout. However, it never has anything to do with coaching or giving him drinks.
First off B, you need to invest in a few Frogg Toggs chilling pads...........THen Share the Love! Last year, when it was really hot, I was cooling down All the catchers and anyone else that needed it.......Dip one of them things in a cooler and put it on their head like they do on TV(Braves games)........I kept a bunch of kids from over heating last year and will be ready to do it again, unless there is someone else in the dugout who will do it. |
| ABC_Baseball |
Posted - 03/15/2016 : 13:57:24
I think once they are on the field encouragement is all you should provide. Everything else will depend on your coaching staff. My kid is in middle school so travel ball is still coached by dads. I may go behind the dugout and say something to him between innings, but not while he is on the field.
Hitting wise he knows what he is doing and I don't say a word about it ever. Pitching is still a work in progress so I try and provide encouragement once he leaves the mound, but these occasions are rare. I prefer to let him figure out things on his own. I don't think he likes me talking to him at all unless it has to do with fluids or food.
Fluids always run out at some point, especially when it is hot. Games tend to end at the same time so concession stand lines can be long and there may not be enough time to grab something between games. Those are the times I may ask him if he wants food or not. I think our coaches realize these are still kids and the parental support is appreciated. You don't want 12 hungry boys to be stuck in the concession stand line when you have 20 mins before the start of the next game. I think the coaches lose their minds when they have to deal with that extra kid, you know when the parents are not there and they have to help make sure some kid that is not theirs has what they need and gets to and from the game.
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| 743 |
Posted - 03/14/2016 : 15:50:57
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Originally posted by in_the_know
No, unless it's to take a razor and shave cream to them ;)
Best answer ever! I love it! |
| CaCO3Girl |
Posted - 03/14/2016 : 15:25:52
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Originally posted by Turnit
What about going in the dugout prior to the start of the game to put water in his bag, while the team is warming up on the field? Is this acceptable?
In my opinion, not at 12u or above. The point is to get them use to being self reliant. Having the drinks magically appear in their bag doesn't teach them to get what they need. It's just sad to see what appear to be grown men saying "Mom, I need another drink, Dad do you know where my bat is, Mom do you know what color shirt I'm suppose to wear today?"
Keep in mind some 14u players are in high school and they are playing with some 18u...train the kids early to know what they need for themselves.
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| Turnit |
Posted - 03/14/2016 : 12:03:17
What about going in the dugout prior to the start of the game to put water in his bag, while the team is warming up on the field? Is this acceptable? |
| CaCO3Girl |
Posted - 03/14/2016 : 11:56:18
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Originally posted by hshuler
My point is at Lakepoint during the summer, it can be 120 degrees down on the turf. You can't bring coolers and I am not going to give my kid four or five waters to sit in the dugout to get hot. After he drinks one cold one (not beer), he asks and I'll give him another. It takes zero seconds and there isn't any conversation, except thanks.
At parks where coolers are allowed, no issues. He can manage his own drinkage!
Last I heard lakepoint changed their stance because of exactly this situation. They now provide a team cooler of water for every game....at least that is what I have been told. Thankfully my kids game there last year was at night and in May....he was fine with his 2 waters ;- ) |
| DecaturDad |
Posted - 03/14/2016 : 11:40:21
I think the difference at the older ages, is the kids asking for something versus the parents hanging near the dugout. My son (at 17u) will occasionally ask for a drink on a hot day. He brings his jug, but sometimes runs out. He will catch my eye, then make a drinking motion. I will nod yes, and head off to get one. We don't even exchange words. The only time I have actually stepped into the dugout was when he had a collision at home plate that resulted in an A/C separation and a trip to the emergency room. |
| hshuler |
Posted - 03/14/2016 : 10:12:18
My point is at Lakepoint during the summer, it can be 120 degrees down on the turf. You can't bring coolers and I am not going to give my kid four or five waters to sit in the dugout to get hot. After he drinks one cold one (not beer), he asks and I'll give him another. It takes zero seconds and there isn't any conversation, except thanks.
At parks where coolers are allowed, no issues. He can manage his own drinkage! |
| CaCO3Girl |
Posted - 03/14/2016 : 08:02:29
I have two instances where I even think about approaching the dugout.
1. If my son is catching, and IF it is a hot day (85+) I will pour cold water on his head and neck in between innings. He knows it's coming, and all I have to do is get his attention and he assumes the position off to the side of the dugout. There have been SEVERAL times when he was the only catcher not to overheat on his entire team.
2. If he is injured I will do a casual stroll by the back of the dugout and will ask ONCE if he is okay. I do not go IN the dugout, or on the field.
So, my answer is, when it pertains to his health I will go near the dugout. However, it never has anything to do with coaching or giving him drinks. |
| catmando |
Posted - 03/11/2016 : 20:41:03
are you nuts..NO and for the record not while in the field either..watch the game grab a dog |
| hshuler |
Posted - 03/11/2016 : 19:03:13
As a former coach, instructions no...water/Gatorade I had no problem with it.
Obviously, none of you have played at Lakepoint because you can't take coolers into the park. :-) |
| Crazyforbball |
Posted - 03/11/2016 : 16:55:54
I think it depends on the age. And if there is time enough between games for them to get something to eat on their own. I know my son will drink a full cooler of water and may not have time to get more ice etc in the dead of summer. I think 12 and under its ok to get them food and water if they run out. As for the talking in the dugout and the bleacher coaching, that's another matter and I would say no after rec ball. |
| in_the_know |
Posted - 03/11/2016 : 16:44:52
No, unless it's to take a razor and shave cream to them ;) |
| Kory |
Posted - 03/11/2016 : 16:41:52
I think it depends on the age. By the time the player gets to High School, I don't think there should be any noise coming from the parents other than the echo of their hands slapping together repeatedly, aka clapping. I remember watching a HS game once where the dad talked the entire time. Yelled at the coach, yelled about how great his kid is, no one can hold him, etc.. etc... Kid was embarrassingly lazy and the Dad was just embarrassing. I have been known to talk to my kid from time to time. Less now that he is a bit older and most of the time it is a 'go get 'em' or 'here we go' or 'you want some skittles'. I have learned the hard way that I need to back off and let him play. I've done my job getting him to the park, it is up to him to perform. |
| bfriendly |
Posted - 03/11/2016 : 16:27:13
I'll play.......Great question 743, and yes, for the simple answer.
But there must be a caveat in here some where. Lemme see if I can find it......but not giving instructions type conversation. Yea that.
I think the drink should be part of the equipment. They should already have it with them when they meet up(Enough for the game, practice whatever). My son takes a pretty good size cooler with him so he is good to go.
I like to get them gum so does that count?......enough for the team of course, gonna shoot me? |
| ofs13 |
Posted - 03/11/2016 : 16:08:05
No, not once you leave rec ball. Whatever parents have to say, can wait. If it's a coaching tip, the coaches have that covered in the dugout. If you don't think so, you committed to the wrong team. If it's words of encouragement, they can hear you cheering for them. You don't have to visit them in the dugout for them to know your rooting for them. If they're bringing food or water...don't. We're trying to teach these boys to take responsibility for themselves, so that momma doesn't have to wipe their butts for them their whole lives. The players need to eat before/after the game & bring their water with them, along with the rest of their equipment. (Exception... you're playing a doubleheader, you run out of water & the lines are too long for the player to wait in them between games themselves. Drop off a water/sport drink bottle and go back to the stands.) |
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