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| beanball |
Posted - 12/12/2008 : 11:39:45
Question for a coaches on the board. What would you consiider a good POP time for catchers @ 13-14U and and the HS level? Have seen different coaches timing the players and have no idea what is good.
Thanks! |
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| RaiderBaseball |
Posted - 12/17/2008 : 11:26:15
Your kid can catch and pitch I did it for years and got offered scholarships to do both. I also played third and was one of the few pitchers that was allowed to hit because I was still a position player as well. In college and not until then was I forced to only pitch, let him do both it is good for him. |
| HITANDRUN |
Posted - 12/16/2008 : 08:06:57
Very tough to pitch and catch because the deliveries are so different. Although in college it wouldn't hurt if he can pitch and catch. I have seen many a 3rd baseman turned into a pitcher or pitcher turned into outfielder. You never know so the more a player can do the better his chances of staying with a team. I saw a kid get a scholarship because this schools team needed a backup and bullpen catcher.
Wasn't alot of money but it made a huge differnce for this player to afford college. |
| beanball |
Posted - 12/15/2008 : 22:29:36
Doc,
No loaded question, I know too well how the ways of travel baseball goes.
He has always pitched quite well and been a #2 catcher and corner infielder not because he wasn't good enough, because the #1 couldn't play another position. I also don't want to focus on only one position at this point. If his HS team has a catcher he will need options. IMO the more positions you can play the more valuable he will be, maybe not in travel ball but when it realy counts.
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| Dr. Old School |
Posted - 12/15/2008 : 16:01:19
beanball,
That sounds like a loaded question. I am expecting a "Well how come Coach XXXX cut him from the team then?" response.
But I will bite. Yes, it sounds like from these criteria he would be a keeper. The question will soon come up of "If he is a really good catcher, why pitch?" What's the benefit to continuing trying to pitch when there is such a shortage of good catchers out there. All the way to the pros. I have always heard that the best way to a scholarship or up to the majors is as a catcher. Sounds like instead of using practice time pitching, spending it on becoming a catcher with "GREAT blocking skills" would make him even more of a keeper. |
| beanball |
Posted - 12/15/2008 : 13:11:04
So a 14U catcher with a POP time of 1.90 that has good receiving skills, OK blocking skills & hits about .350 with gap and ocasional HR power as well as pitch about 80 innings in a 70 game schedule is a keeper even if he isn't 6' & 175 lbs? |
| HITANDRUN |
Posted - 12/15/2008 : 12:02:16
Catcher's throwing to second on base stealing attempt MLB:
• Excellent - >1.8 seconds
• Good - 1.9 seconds or less
• Average - 2.0 seconds
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| Critical Mass |
Posted - 12/12/2008 : 15:59:30
http://www.nwgabaseball.org/snitz/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=3904&SearchTerms=pop,times |
| greglomax |
Posted - 12/12/2008 : 15:57:05
I am not the originator of the details below, but feel like they are a good rule of thumb:
A solid Major League time is under 2.00 seconds
Most Major League catchers are in the 1.80 - 1.98 range, on average
In college, times under 2.10 will often work
The average game pop for a good high school varsity catcher is 2.20-2.25.
Above average is 2.10-2.19
Excellent for a HS varsity catcher would be a game throw 2.0-2.09
These times are on 90' bases. Times may be faster for 13 year olds if they are playing 80' bases.
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| bballman |
Posted - 12/12/2008 : 15:18:36
For HS, a pop time of 2.0 or less is considered very, very good. |
| bigcatsdad |
Posted - 12/12/2008 : 15:15:20
Under 2.0 is excellent. |
