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| baseball101 |
Posted - 08/14/2008 : 09:09:19
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| Pronate |
Posted - 08/18/2008 : 12:26:29
With the new pitch count craze everyone gets off the hook. LL baseball protects its $50MM bankroll. Coaches get relieved of actually putting some thought into how to properly apply force to a baseball. Administrators get to fall back on the "expertise" of the voodoo doctors down in Birmingham AL. Parents entrust their boys to all of the above.
Everyone's off the hook except our most precious possession...our sons.
If you are banging a kid's head against the wall multiple times it obviously is a good thing to do it less often. My suggestion is to stop banging their heads against a wall in the first place.
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PS Instead of "banging their heads" substitute
1. Taking the ball out of the glove with their hands on top of the ball
2. The towel drill
3 Reverse rotating beyond 2nd base
3. Forwardly rotating over the PAS foot
4. Striding too far
5. Bending at the waist
6. Supinating the release of curve balls
7. Having the pitching arm come downwardky across the fron t of the torso.
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| FearAD |
Posted - 08/16/2008 : 19:19:28
This kid threw a curve and slider. Correct me if I am wrong but shouldn't a pitcher throw only one of those? |
| SportsDad |
Posted - 08/14/2008 : 23:03:01
In todays day and age, I find it hard to believe the "ignorant parent excuse." He's playing travel ball, league ball, and nobody has ever mentioned pitch count to them.. Yes coaches shouldn't throw a kid 5 times a week, but whether it's league ball, travel ball or HS ball, coaches always seem to be the "easy" target and parental/personal responsibilty seems to be eschewed. Yes coaches shouldn't overthrow kids, but every coach has a ,different interpertation of what over throwing is. Most coaches have no problems with establishing pitch counts...We all recommend that parents "check out" the coaches before even joining the team...I would think if your sons a pitcher I'd check out pitch count with him too..One thing I would also reccommend if your son is a starting pitcher, when he comes off the mound, he comes out of the game..The two serious arm injuries I've seen in a game were with kids who pitched 4-5 innings and then were playing the field when the injury occured by a throw.. With the one kid it was really unfortunate, the coach always sat the kids for the rest of the game when he pitched, we were at a tournament and were short handed, he tried to "hide" him at first base, but Murphey's Law took over and he seriously hurt his arm on a throw to the plate..Putting a kid in the field after he's pitch is just extending the pitch count, and asking for trouble... |
| greglomax |
Posted - 08/14/2008 : 17:13:53
I used to take that same approach, and for the most part I still do, but you have to keep in mind there are parents out there that do not know the in's and out's on the sport. We are all psychotic parents who read and listen to everything we can get our hands on (evident by the activity on this board) but many parents are casual observers of their kids sports activities. How are the parents to know that there is truly a significant difference between the affect of pitching in baseball, on the shoulder, than pitching in fast pitch softball? I just look back at my parents and realize that they would not have had any idea the effect of me pitching until I started complaining about arm pain. Not that they did not care, but they did not come from an athletic background so they "didn't know what they didn't know."
This being the case, I think there is more responsibility on the coaches, who all BETTER know the affects, to find out if their player is playing on another team and, if so, how much they are pitching.
I would advise any parent to learn how to keep up with pitch counts and frequencies so they can make better, informed, decisions though. |
| Hitcoach |
Posted - 08/14/2008 : 16:17:06
It is not only the parents that need to keep an eye on little Chuckie. Some of the blam needs to go on the coaches as well. I have seen plenty of kids who can't make a High School team because the kid threw way to many CURVE BALLS and now the arm is shot and also threw to many innings as well. Who controls the amount the player throws in a game? It is not a trick question.I have been guilty myself in letting a player talk me into another inning or just 1 more batter.Just my thoughts on this subject. |
| SportsDad |
Posted - 08/14/2008 : 13:02:23
And where were the parents?...oh they were probably the ones telling everyone how great thier son was and living out their dreams through him...It's your kid, if you let him pitch 3-4-5 times a week...don't come crying that the "coaches" abused him... |
| 12uCoach |
Posted - 08/14/2008 : 12:51:09
Mom and Dad have to have a better grip on how many pitches/innings little Chuckie throws in a 5 day period. |
| Dr. Old School |
Posted - 08/14/2008 : 11:54:35
I always get concerned about these "Hired arms" for teams going to Cooperstown and other type tournaments. I see coaches relying too heavy on these pitchers and not really worrying about their overuse because they are not one of their "Regular" players. It almost becomes a "Gotta get good use out of what we paid for."
I see a lot more problems with kids trying to balance playing in a league, where they pitch during the week, and also play travel on a different team, and pitch on the weekend. |
