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| BBall123 |
Posted - 08/21/2013 : 20:03:42
http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/highschool-prep-rally/las-vegas-12-old-hit-home-runs-11-040159387.html
"In my 46 years of playing at every level and coaching I have never seen anything like this," LBVA Lightning coach Mike Martin, a former catcher for the Chicago Cubs, texted to a friend during one game at the tournament.
"The young man has 11 consecutive home runs. It’s a new Cooperstown Dreams Park record. The old record was 9.
"This feat needs national attention
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| ivpartner |
Posted - 08/27/2013 : 15:56:22
In response to Cop,
First, I never said that hitting 11 HR's was not an accomplishment. I agreed with Neverquit, however, that hitting homeruns on 200 foot fences is NOT the same as hitting homeruns against the top pitching and bigger fields that all the other organizations at this 12U age provide competitively. I stand by that.
Second, you don't have to believe me but others like 4bagger and intheknow have apparently been told the same thing that Lou told our coach when we complained.
WHAT I meant by DANGEROUS is if you allow "doctored bats" it is REALLY DANGEROUS to pitchers throwing 46 feet away from hitters using illegal bats. The force that an illegal bat can generate can seriously hurt a player anywhere in the infield playing defense but ESPECIALLY the pitchers. If you don't get that, then I hope YOUR SON never has to experience the bad end of an illegal bat. Unfortunately, my younger son was playing SS when an illegal bat was used and he took a line drive to his face/forehead. We had to rush him to the ER for a EEC brain scan to see if he had brain damage. This should NEVER happen in baseball!!!!!!
Finally, I never said that hitting 11 HR's in a row wasn't a feat BUT players using illegal bats, hitting against weaker teams (and their are MANY weak teams out of the 104 teams every weak at CDP)at the size and skill of some of the players of today, that feat is no longer what it might have been in another league with better competition and larger fields. |
| in_the_know |
Posted - 08/27/2013 : 13:23:47
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Originally posted by bballman
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Originally posted by cop311
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Originally posted by ivpartner
Agreed!
A few other points about Cooperstown. My son went two years ago and ran into a team with a "doctored" bat. When our coach reported it to the owner his response regarding their bat rules was "If you can bring it, you can swing it!".
They want every player to hit home runs. The more the better. That is why they have their fences at 200 feet. Is it dangerous? Yes!
Also if you read the article you will note that this kid was a "late addition to the team". Well everyone knows that some coaches build teams to win Cooperstown and others take their teams for the experience. Many of the top teams there add premium players at the end of their season and many of those are sponsored. Just the way it is!
Point 1 I don't believe you at all.
Point 2 How are 200 ft fences dangerous? Kids running into them Bryce Harper style?
Point 3 Regardless what team he was on, "sponsored" player or not, thousands and thousands of kids have played there including current MLB players and no one ever came close to that feat.
+1 for me too.
+.75 for me.
Point 1 is absolutely true. I also had a conversation with Lou when I was there and he told me the same thing. If it's not wood and you can bring it and swing it, it's good for him. There are no bat rules posted or inferred beyond no wood bats for CDP. |
| 4bagger |
Posted - 08/27/2013 : 13:09:35
Sorry Cop, but yes. If you can bring it you can swing it. There are NO bat rules except that wooden bats are not allowed.
We were playing a team where the end cap flew off the kids bat BEFORE he hit the baseball and when the ump picked it up he make a joke out of showing everyone how it was too small to fit the bat. Seems the parents forgot to superglue the cap back on after it was shaved. No joke.
But there's no evidence the kid used a doctored bat and good for him.
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| bballman |
Posted - 08/27/2013 : 10:48:53
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Originally posted by cop311
quote:
Originally posted by ivpartner
Agreed!
A few other points about Cooperstown. My son went two years ago and ran into a team with a "doctored" bat. When our coach reported it to the owner his response regarding their bat rules was "If you can bring it, you can swing it!".
They want every player to hit home runs. The more the better. That is why they have their fences at 200 feet. Is it dangerous? Yes!
Also if you read the article you will note that this kid was a "late addition to the team". Well everyone knows that some coaches build teams to win Cooperstown and others take their teams for the experience. Many of the top teams there add premium players at the end of their season and many of those are sponsored. Just the way it is!
Point 1 I don't believe you at all.
Point 2 How are 200 ft fences dangerous? Kids running into them Bryce Harper style?
Point 3 Regardless what team he was on, "sponsored" player or not, thousands and thousands of kids have played there including current MLB players and no one ever came close to that feat.
+1 for me too. |
| baseballpapa |
Posted - 08/27/2013 : 10:16:57
I agree with cop311. It was an awesome accomplishment what this kid did and it doesn't matter at all how he got there. Papa has been to this event 5 times and even in watching the home run derby where the ball is thrown from a machine have I ever seen anyone close to what this kid did. Good Job Kid. |
| cop311 |
Posted - 08/27/2013 : 09:45:29
quote:
Originally posted by ivpartner
Agreed!
A few other points about Cooperstown. My son went two years ago and ran into a team with a "doctored" bat. When our coach reported it to the owner his response regarding their bat rules was "If you can bring it, you can swing it!".
They want every player to hit home runs. The more the better. That is why they have their fences at 200 feet. Is it dangerous? Yes!
Also if you read the article you will note that this kid was a "late addition to the team". Well everyone knows that some coaches build teams to win Cooperstown and others take their teams for the experience. Many of the top teams there add premium players at the end of their season and many of those are sponsored. Just the way it is!
Point 1 I don't believe you at all.
Point 2 How are 200 ft fences dangerous? Kids running into them Bryce Harper style?
Point 3 Regardless what team he was on, "sponsored" player or not, thousands and thousands of kids have played there including current MLB players and no one ever came close to that feat. |
| UPPERDECKER |
Posted - 08/27/2013 : 09:33:16
The level of teams at Cooperstown is extremely varied. This is still a great accomplishment by any player. Cooperstown is no cakewalk to win, you have to put a great week together. Teams have went multiple times and still could not get it done. |
| BBall123 |
Posted - 08/27/2013 : 09:28:15
What ever, I say kudos to the kid, Something he will never forget |
| ivpartner |
Posted - 08/26/2013 : 12:18:19
Agreed!
A few other points about Cooperstown. My son went two years ago and ran into a team with a "doctored" bat. When our coach reported it to the owner his response regarding their bat rules was "If you can bring it, you can swing it!".
They want every player to hit home runs. The more the better. That is why they have their fences at 200 feet. Is it dangerous? Yes!
Also if you read the article you will note that this kid was a "late addition to the team". Well everyone knows that some coaches build teams to win Cooperstown and others take their teams for the experience. Many of the top teams there add premium players at the end of their season and many of those are sponsored. Just the way it is! |
| neverquit |
Posted - 08/26/2013 : 11:52:26
Although this is a great accomplishment you may have difficulty for National attention due to CDP 200 ft fences and competition level. LLWS 225, AABC WS 260, NYBC WS 280, TC 250 and E32 250 plus. Good luck. |
