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| ivpartner |
Posted - 05/22/2012 : 08:38:14
When are coaches going to demand that tournament facilities have working scoreboards and bathroom. Travel teams pay large dollars for first class facilities and we rarely get it.
At East Cobb's park, the scoreboards haven't worked properly on several fields we play on since last fall. The electronic boxes that run the scoreboards are worn out. How much would it cost to replace them given the enormous amount of money that flows into the ECB park? The men's room has been overflowing at several tournaments in the Field 4 & 6 area. Ihear complaints about it at every tournament but nothing changes.
Am I the only one frustrated by the lack of maintenance? |
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| bballman |
Posted - 05/29/2012 : 14:01:56
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Originally posted by AllStar
Just finished a game at Centennial HS. Next time we play at ECB, I'm going to kiss the ground.
Just sayin'.
Yeah, Centennial's problem is they don't have a bathroom close by.
However, that does not excuse ECB for their sins. Is there something wrong with saying that a facility should host top notch teams AND have clean facilities with scoreboards working? I don't think so. When I have been there, I always see guys driving around in carts emptying trash and the bathrooms haven't been that bad. However, I have been attending games at fields 1,2 & 3 for the past 5 years. Not sure what's going on down at the younger fields. The scoreboards have not consistently worked down there for the last 9 years - at least. I, personally, think that is inexcusable. If the bathrooms are as bad as some are saying, that too is inexcusable. There is more to being a world class facility than hosting events that bring top notch teams.
ECB is not a local rec park where you depend on the city or county to take care of a broken scoreboard. It is not a local HS field that doesn't want to give tournaments access to their scoreboard. They own and operate their own facility and have TOTAL control and responsibility over everything that goes on there. They should address these issues.
If my understanding is correct, ECB only gets $125 per player plus what they make on sales of uniforms plus money from organizations hosting their tournaments there. If a team charges $2,000 to play for a season, ECB still only gets $125. If they don't have the money to fix the scoreboards, charge $150 for the priviledge to play there and get the darned boards fixed. I just went over and counted - there are currently 93 teams playing out of ECB. Say an average of 15 kids per team times $25, in one year, they can raise $34,879 just from this increase. That should be enough to at least fix the scoreboards. Over 2 or 3 years, they should be able to replace every scoreboard there. They have had many years to do this and have not done it. It really is irritating. |
| funnyhop |
Posted - 05/28/2012 : 19:02:38
Give you $5 bucks if you kiss the ground in the bathrooms! |
| AllStar |
Posted - 05/28/2012 : 16:24:50
Just finished a game at Centennial HS. Next time we play at ECB, I'm going to kiss the ground.
Just sayin'. |
| Triple |
Posted - 05/27/2012 : 10:20:13
The tournament host at ECB pockets the gate fee money. It's a lot of money. |
| Goin Deep |
Posted - 05/26/2012 : 21:59:05
bigroc19
This is not a slam but you are misinformed BIG TIME....Teams (Host) do receive a portion of the profits...A large portion....That is why you have a "host" No excuse for the mess though.
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Originally posted by bigroc19
Enough on ECB scoreboards and bathrooms guys.
There is no excuse for either one of them...A facility like ECB should just replace the score boards, they definite make the money from the tournaments and the kids paying $2k plus to play on their teams. My son worked out there during the winter and the bathrooms were a mess the entire time...That is just nasty and they should correct that ASAP.
CoachDad, it is not the ECB team parents responsibilty to clean anything or empty trash cans at that park..Teams do not receive a dine of the tournament profits. ECB has a full staff working there, this is not a small pak where everyone chips in...ECB is a business and all about the money.
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Originally posted by CoachDad
I realize that this doesn't cover malfunctioning scoreboards which certainly should be covered by incredibly exorbitant gate fees, but, from the ECB website and concerning cleanliness of facilities "parents of the players are expected to help with everything from scorekeeping to emptying trash. During tournaments, it is always the host team’s responsibility to take care of these things as well as get the fields ready to play."
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| bigroc19 |
Posted - 05/26/2012 : 13:10:29
Enough on ECB scoreboards and bathrooms guys.
There is no excuse for either one of them...A facility like ECB should just replace the score boards, they definite make the money from the tournaments and the kids paying $2k plus to play on their teams. My son worked out there during the winter and the bathrooms were a mess the entire time...That is just nasty and they should correct that ASAP.
CoachDad, it is not the ECB team parents responsibilty to clean anything or empty trash cans at that park..Teams do not receive a dine of the tournament profits. ECB has a full staff working there, this is not a small pak where everyone chips in...ECB is a business and all about the money.
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Originally posted by CoachDad
I realize that this doesn't cover malfunctioning scoreboards which certainly should be covered by incredibly exorbitant gate fees, but, from the ECB website and concerning cleanliness of facilities "parents of the players are expected to help with everything from scorekeeping to emptying trash. During tournaments, it is always the host team’s responsibility to take care of these things as well as get the fields ready to play."
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| CoachDad |
Posted - 05/26/2012 : 12:19:58
I realize that this doesn't cover malfunctioning scoreboards which certainly should be covered by incredibly exorbitant gate fees, but, from the ECB website and concerning cleanliness of facilities "parents of the players are expected to help with everything from scorekeeping to emptying trash. During tournaments, it is always the host team’s responsibility to take care of these things as well as get the fields ready to play." |
| bat man |
Posted - 05/26/2012 : 07:24:19
Why not help the economy and hire a few teenagers to tidy up the place on a regular basis? |
| scottwill311 |
Posted - 05/25/2012 : 22:19:35
ECB is not concerned about a pleasant experience for the CUSTOMER!They continuosly blame uncleanliness on concession staff. |
| rippit |
Posted - 05/25/2012 : 21:31:10
Food great. Fields beautiful. Bathrooms old but okay but this was at 5:30 Pm On a Friday. Scoreboard laughable. Umps missed a couple blatant things. Didn't matter. We were gettin our hineys handed to us. Thought it was ridiculous that both teams had to roll up the mound and plate covers and move them. Parking lot not big enough. I can see how things will really be trashed by Sunday/Monday. Understaffed? |
| spike |
Posted - 05/25/2012 : 08:19:16
ivpartner my post was in referance to TRIBE an NOT PLAYING THERE. Not playing there is foolish in my opinion still better than 95% of complexes. |
| Peanutsr |
Posted - 05/25/2012 : 06:20:43
Wow. I have been going to tournaments at East Cobb for several years now and have never had, nor would I , stand in four inches of poop. Don't think that is something I would admit to. |
| F2202 |
Posted - 05/25/2012 : 00:38:11
Personally, I enjoy walking into a stinky bathroom.
And OMG don't get me started on the scoreboards. Do you know how hard it is to keep track of balls and strikes while I'm working the dish without a scoreboard? Impossible. I rely on them because I refuse to use an indicator. Indicators are for sissies. |
| ivpartner |
Posted - 05/24/2012 : 17:59:52
Spike, I didn't start this post to bash ECB baseball teams. There are numerous posts on this blog extolling the greatness of many ECB teams and coaches. The non profit ECB FACILITIES however take in millions of dollars annually and bills itself as a world class baseball facility. It really isn't that tough to have someone maintain and clean a restroom. ECB has been running multi team tournaments for 20+ years so it isn't like they don't know what is required to have their scoreboards and facilities in working order. There successfull because they have large facilities and a good name of promoting amateur baseball in an accessible affluent part of metro Atlanta. Pretty simple.
I would tell you though that this weekend the Battle of the South is charging $7 per person gate fee to attend games every day from Tuesday through Monday. That is a lot of green for baseball fans to pay. For that ticket price my son and I should be able to go to the bathroom without standing in 4 inches of someone else's poop. At times there are cheaper tickets to both the Atlanta Braves and the Gwinnett Braves games.
Just saying, if ECB and their facilities want to keep the train rolling, they need to invest a few dollars in a plumber and some new scoreboard controllers. That isn't too much to expect for this caliber venue. |
| spike |
Posted - 05/24/2012 : 12:15:41
Tribe IM sorry you are right teams should inspect bathrooms and scoreboards an if they are unsatisfactory just refuse to allow their child to play against the best competition. Im not sure where you play every weekend but we have played at least 50 games and 30 of them didnt have working scoreboards and several didnt have bathrooms they had PORTAJONS. It depends on your goals and expectations for your child its about them. Just curious at DII ,small college,and minor leagues what are facilities like......something to think about players might even be asked to maintain their own facility.... I just get really tired of consantly hearing the the world bash ecb and wonder if its because Johnny didnt make team or they continue to lose to them . Maybe we should ask those EX- ecb guys that have left to start the new an improved program (like ecb)lots of those out there. How are thier facilities working out. Point is we all are going to play baseball and thats where the competition is, probly wont hear many scholarship recipiants complain about scoreboards or bathrooms when all they have to pay for is books in college. Truet Cathy says it best "Keep the main thing the main thing" And obviously at ecb, thats producing better baseball players. By the way i dont play for ecb. |
| jdrew |
Posted - 05/24/2012 : 12:13:58
As for the scoreboards, why not go "old school" like Fenway. Have a few kids volunteer to put the digits up and then give them a concession stand credit for their work. Radio communication with the scoreboard and official scorekeeper could be used to keep an accurate score. That's how we used to roll and learned a lot by watching and keeping up with the game. I know we are in the technology age now and a world class facility like EC shouldn't have these issues but it's a thought. |
| baseball_fan |
Posted - 05/24/2012 : 11:51:16
whats the new facility everyone is speaking of? |
| stepoff |
Posted - 05/24/2012 : 11:13:13
Gotta love the food offerings they have though. |
| Newbie BB Mom |
Posted - 05/24/2012 : 10:41:15
Last summer I took my son up to watch a team's tryouts at ECB, just to demystify the process a little and let him see for himself that he could probably play for one of these teams. The team we watched had very friendly coaches and parents in the stands. The boys seemed like nice kids and good ball players. Everything was going great. Then, my son went to use the restroom. He was so disgusted with the state of the men's bathroom he didn't want to go. I told him I'd "guard the door" while he used the women's room. He reluctantly agreed. But, ever since then he has said (only half jokingly) that he isn't sure he wants to play at ECB because of the bathrooms! |
| in_the_know |
Posted - 05/24/2012 : 09:41:48
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Originally posted by spike
STOP PLAYING THERE? Last time i checked everyone comes there to play because the best competitiion in baseball comes there to play. Anyone looked at their summer tourny schedule and what kind of teams are coming just check 12 u Braves schedule and what they will compete against in their own backyard ( then look at their record over the past 78 games) THATS THE RESULT OF PLAYING THE BEST COMPETITION! Oh but we want to talk sunflower seeds in baseball dugout? Bathrooms dirty and scoreboards? When was the last time you went to Atlanta Braves game and were the bathrooms like that in a beach resort? With so many concerned parents there ought to be plenty of volunteers or options to help out with these issues, but oh parents these days dont even put in the effort to watch a practice they just drop Johnny off then complain about everything from playing time to shape of a world class facillity. Check out what teams say about their first time to ecb and you will gain more perspective.
That was my point. Basically, there are reasons more important to the consuming public to overlook nonworking scoreboards and filthy bathrooms that keep people coming. And if all these complainers are serious, there is only one way things will improve.
So to my point (and your), the complainers aren't that serious, because they'll be back many more times this season and next. . . . . and the scoreboards still won't be working. |
| spliter |
Posted - 05/24/2012 : 09:39:08
I think all that is needed is easier controllers to use that is rookie friendly. Not sure but score boards have been replaced in the last five yrs or so. The real issue is getting practice field time. Maybe Stan can start another new section for those that have fields for rent. Bathrooms...We have all heard men are pigs. Just go in any high traffic bathrooms truck stops,concerts,etc. It gets back to lack of repect for others. |
| Tribe |
Posted - 05/24/2012 : 09:29:42
Sorry Spike, clean restrooms and working scoreboards are more than reasonable expectations of a "world class" facility (your term).
Also, asking parents who pay top dollar to then donate additional volunteer time to spruce up this park is absurd. This isn't a county-owned rec ball facility.
In_the_know is correct: Up until now, ECB has had little incentive to address these issues, as they could always disregard the complaints due to the lack of comparable facilities to provide competition. That is about to change. ECB would be well-advised to listen to its customers, just like every other business in the world is expected to do. |
| spike |
Posted - 05/24/2012 : 07:56:49
STOP PLAYING THERE? Last time i checked everyone comes there to play because the best competitiion in baseball comes there to play. Anyone looked at their summer tourny schedule and what kind of teams are coming just check 12 u Braves schedule and what they will compete against in their own backyard ( then look at their record over the past 78 games) THATS THE RESULT OF PLAYING THE BEST COMPETITION! Oh but we want to talk sunflower seeds in baseball dugout? Bathrooms dirty and scoreboards? When was the last time you went to Atlanta Braves game and were the bathrooms like that in a beach resort? With so many concerned parents there ought to be plenty of volunteers or options to help out with these issues, but oh parents these days dont even put in the effort to watch a practice they just drop Johnny off then complain about everything from playing time to shape of a world class facillity. Check out what teams say about their first time to ecb and you will gain more perspective. |
| Spartan4 |
Posted - 05/23/2012 : 21:50:31
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Originally posted by loveforthegame25
Scoreboards on 1-2-3 usually work. Field 7-8 still don't work????????? They didn't work 4 years ago.
That is where the scouts watch baseball!!!
I agree it wouldn't be too tough to take a backpack blower and clean up the stand areas..... |
| peashooter |
Posted - 05/23/2012 : 21:10:57
Coke is out of the business, but guess who still owns that property? Coke....good luck. |
