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| bbmom2 |
Posted - 08/06/2011 : 08:48:36
difference?
More curious how the various teams are run and how the managers/coaches on the forums define the positions. Most of the teams we've been on, can't tell a bit of difference between one and the other. What should it be and in practicality, what it is? Going on a team the year with what seems to be more defined roles so would like to know what the roles are on other teams... |
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| excoach12 |
Posted - 08/06/2011 : 19:26:08
Our manager handles the administrative duties, the parents and is the final say in all decisions.
The head coach runs the practices, sets defenses, sets the batting order and teaches the game. He runs everything past the manager for his approval.
The assistant coaches are the pitching coach, catching coach, infield coach, outfield coach and base running coach. These duties are split between the two assistant coaches and the head coach. The two assistant coaches work for the head coach and take their direction from him. The assistant coaches are also the 1B and 3B coach during the games. The head coach stays in the dugout with the Manager so they can make game time decisions.
The business manager is a parent who handles all money in and out, uniform orders, tournament payments, etc. Under the business manager are two other parents, the team mom and the fundraiser. Team mom does all the fluff stuff like spiritwear, parties, team roster, remembering birthdays, etc. The fundraiser plans and organizes three fundraising events.
We also have two parents who are trained in the scorebook and two others who are the scoreboard operators.
This way we have a job for at least one parent for all 11 players and everyone has a vested stake in the outcome of the season. Everyone is contributing in some way to the success of the team and everyone is on "staff".
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| in_the_know |
Posted - 08/06/2011 : 16:47:08
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Originally posted by rippit
I think the term "business manager" is just the PC version of "team mom".
Yes and no. As you get into the older age groups, there tends to be alot more activity around working with TD's, and the various organizations. That tends to be the business manager role. The Team Mom role still exists and is more focused around arranging hotels/travel, comfort items around players (wet towels, ice, food), and spirit wear type of things. Also planning around group events. More of what might be considered the fluff activities. Some teams may combine the two, but as you reach the 14u and up groups, there are alot more logistics around having enough players (high school/middle school conflicts) as well as the growth of roster size that you begin to really start separating the meat from the fat (not insinuating in any way that team moms are fat  ). The older age groups get much more business like than the families of the younger ages as the teams begin to be comprised from larger geographies, which present new challenges around running a team. All of it becomes too much for just a coach &/or team mom to deal with. |
| bbmom2 |
Posted - 08/06/2011 : 14:32:15
Being the "business manager" on a couple of teams - agree Rippit...let's don't go there!!
My question is more in looking at teams this year, we checked out Team Manager and Head Coach but not 100% sure if this is a 50/50 partnership on some teams or does the Manager make the final decision on who plays and then who actually does the coaching on the field at practices? Could be broken down also by area of expertise... outfield vs. infield etc. Once we start playing I will see how our team is broken down in reality vs. what were told - just want to see what to look for.
Really just curiosity... nothing hidden behind the question. |
| rippit |
Posted - 08/06/2011 : 11:43:47
I think the term "business manager" is just the PC version of "team mom".
Note to parents: this person doesn't make coaching decisions, so PLEASE direct your ire towards the coach about your son's team placement, position, order in the line up etc. The "business manager" doesn't need to hear anything about all that and neither do any of the other parents.
Along those lines, the coach won't care which parent volunteered to do what and it won't get you brownie points with the coach and it SHOULD NOT help your son play a position he is not suited for. Please let the coach do the coaching. Some of them actually put a lot of thought into practices, game situations and who the best player is or could be at every spot on the field. Seriously.
I've heard this phrase a couple of times this month already: "It's NOT a democracy on this team."
If something happens contrary to what you were told in the beginning, then by all means question the correct person for an answer. Otherwise, let them do their job. Those volunteer positions don't pay so well! |
| in_the_know |
Posted - 08/06/2011 : 09:53:49
Alot of teams have taken to referring to them as Business Manager and Head Coach to better distinguish. Business Managers usually responsible for collecting money, getting uniform sizing/orders taken care of, ensuring enough equipment is in place (baseballs, etc), registering for tournaments, communicating schedules, etc., to team, maintaining website, etc., etc. In some rare instances, they will also deal with parental issues rather than have the Head Coach field those.
Head Coach is typically responsible for all on-field practice and game actions. Running practice, determining playing time and lineup, etc., and in most cases, still deals with parental issues as it relates to playing time and line-ups.
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Originally posted by bbmom2
difference?
More curious how the various teams are run and how the managers/coaches on the forums define the positions. Most of the teams we've been on, can't tell a bit of difference between one and the other. What should it be and in practicality, what it is? Going on a team the year with what seems to be more defined roles so would like to know what the roles are on other teams...
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| loveforthegame25 |
Posted - 08/06/2011 : 09:27:01
Manager manages the team. Books. Scheduling. Paperwork. Parental issues. Etc. Head coach coaches the team. |
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