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| ryerye |
Posted - 08/04/2011 : 21:43:37
After going to several tryouts this year, my question is...When does skill matter more than the political parents making team decisions?
I can understand a coach wanting to make sure the parents all fit together because it's a long season. So they appear to take a kid that is not as proficient because they know the parents and since they don't know us they don't take the chance. I've learned that I need to get to know more coaches along the way but just curious to get some thoughts.
At what age does that stop, or does it ever? 14, 15, 16?
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| Houndfan |
Posted - 08/05/2011 : 09:37:39
Sometimes there is also an element of potential. I have selected kids in the past that were not the odds on favorite in the try-out because there was something that I saw in their display that I think that I could develop to make my team stronger. And yes, I will admit to even some BuddyBall tactics too from time to time. One of the elements that have made some our teams successful is the holistic team concept from parent to little brother/sister. If I can collect a group of 11-12 boys and get them to behave like a team/family I find that teaching and execution becomes much easier.
But, I also am cautious to know that we need to be competitive at the same time. I think a good coach will balance it all. select a core group on talent and ability, maybe one or two "clubhouse" guys, and a couple of development projects. If the mixture is right you can compete.
One caveat, you have to decide where to compete. I am not all that caught up in the need or desire to play Major baseball at our age group. If my team grows to that heck yeah! But I will be satisfied at the level of play that we are challenged and can learn the most. So if my aim was to create a top Major team then I may have a different approach in tryouts.
Key is to interview the coaches during this try-out period ultimately the decision as to where you play is yours and not theirs! |
| reallycoach |
Posted - 08/05/2011 : 09:32:55
It stops when the coachs have the ability and willingness to control the parents. At the later ages most coaches are very experainced and know how to handle parents. In some cases they become unapproachable and in others they simply take a " I am in command" postion. Very rarely is a head coach both approachable and in command. It happens, but not generally.
I can tell you from decades of experainces that I always looked at the parents and thier interaction. A single out of control parent can ruin a season for an intire team. It distracts the coaching and too much time is spend stratgizing on how to deal with the parent and unitl is it addressed the whole team suffers. SO there are times when taking a less skilled player is better for the team. I know of several very good major level players that I wouldn't even let near the park due to parents, never mind actuyaly on my team.
SO get to know the coaches and them you, it's important to your player and his potentail team and your sanity. IF your coach will not address parent issues, then it will be a long season as there is almost always one.
Also don't be offended when a coach is blatantly candid about skills and effort. This is the style I adopted. Straight to the heart of the issue. I always used situations and examples to demonstrat my point. If a parent didn't beleive I would occasionaly put the player into the situation they asked for and let them see for them selves. This didn't always work as they retored would generally be, well he doesn't get enough reps there. May be true but I don't have 10 tournaments to get him up to speed when I already have X p;layers up to speed.
my two cents
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| dmb350 |
Posted - 08/05/2011 : 09:05:43
Never for some coaches/teams. It's called "buddyball" the friendship version of "daddyball". Be glad you got passed on for that team. The frustration you feel now would be multiplied by 100 later in the season due to that type of decision making. |
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