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| 22202 |
Posted - 03/05/2011 : 19:39:55
I just heard Slugfest has been cancelled for Sunday. Pretty bummed! |
| 25 L A T E S T R E P L I E S (Newest First) |
| coachdan06 |
Posted - 03/13/2011 : 10:31:29
quote:
Originally posted by Scorpion baseball academy
CATCH3DAD ...... NOTHING WAS SAID THAT PARENTS CAN'T VENT THEIR OPINIONS BUT THEY NEED TO KNOW HOW MUCH TIME AND MONEY IS INVESTED IN PUTTING ON THESE TOURNAMENTS. ALL TEAMS AND COACHES ARE TOLD WHATS HAPPENS WHEN THESE TOURNAMENTS ARE RAINED OUT.WHAT THE REFUNDS WILL BE IF ANY.
BASEBALL IS SUPPOSE TO BE FOR THE KIDS,BUT IT IS ALSO A BUSINESS. THERE ARE COSTS AND TIME NO MATTER WHAT LEVEL YOU PLAY.MAINTANCE COST EMPLOYEES ECT... GATE FEES ARE THERE TO HELP OFFSET FIELD MAINTANCE AND SUPPLYS. TRIPLE CROWN,USSSA,OR ANY ORGAINZION OR PRIVATE FIELD THAT PUT ON TOURNAMENTS FOR OUR KIDS TO PLAY ON AND BRING IN THE BEST COMPETITION,I FEEL ITS WORTH THE INVESTMENT.ANYWAYS HOW MANY TIMES DO WE EVER HAVE TOURNAMENTS CANCELLED AFTER THE SEASON STARTS UP HEAVY?
STEVE POLLARD c/O SBA
Scorpion & DAD -- I see both sides of your arguments adn I agree with both.
Here is my opinion of how this tournament should have been handled ; I too have no dog hunting :-):
We have Grandkids whose club outdoors activities were canceled Thursday PM due to the weather channel forecast of imminent rain and cold beginning Friday afternoon. This weather DID occur too.
The Slugfest should have never begun given that it was very obvious to anyone that it would never be completed - so why play the tournament to begin with at such a high cost to those playing just a game or two ?
That is not equitable or honorable in my book.
But , the TD could and should keep the $100 or whatever is stated , due to the up front costs etc - just dont drag people out there for a game so to get their gate fee and maybe another $100 when you know the event wont survive Friday night - that's flat out wrong and everyone knows it !!!
Best To All ! |
| Spartan4 |
Posted - 03/12/2011 : 00:47:27
quote:
Originally posted by barsred98
?????????? How many times does the TD or host teams actually put money back into the fields? I know on the south side of Atlanta, the fields have the same issues year after year..........and there is plenty of gate fee $$$$ getting paid!
Good point!!!! Our Super NIT is an AWESOME tournament.....but the fields are flat out garbage......It would be nice to see a little work done on those fields. |
| barsred98 |
Posted - 03/11/2011 : 15:33:09
?????????? How many times does the TD or host teams actually put money back into the fields? I know on the south side of Atlanta, the fields have the same issues year after year..........and there is plenty of gate fee $$$$ getting paid! |
| Scorpion baseball academy |
Posted - 03/11/2011 : 11:00:02
CATCH3DAD ...... NOTHING WAS SAID THAT PARENTS CAN'T VENT THEIR OPINIONS BUT THEY NEED TO KNOW HOW MUCH TIME AND MONEY IS INVESTED IN PUTTING ON THESE TOURNAMENTS. ALL TEAMS AND COACHES ARE TOLD WHATS HAPPENS WHEN THESE TOURNAMENTS ARE RAINED OUT.WHAT THE REFUNDS WILL BE IF ANY.
BASEBALL IS SUPPOSE TO BE FOR THE KIDS,BUT IT IS ALSO A BUSINESS. THERE ARE COSTS AND TIME NO MATTER WHAT LEVEL YOU PLAY.MAINTANCE COST EMPLOYEES ECT... GATE FEES ARE THERE TO HELP OFFSET FIELD MAINTANCE AND SUPPLYS. TRIPLE CROWN,USSSA,OR ANY ORGAINZION OR PRIVATE FIELD THAT PUT ON TOURNAMENTS FOR OUR KIDS TO PLAY ON AND BRING IN THE BEST COMPETITION,I FEEL ITS WORTH THE INVESTMENT.ANYWAYS HOW MANY TIMES DO WE EVER HAVE TOURNAMENTS CANCELLED AFTER THE SEASON STARTS UP HEAVY?
STEVE POLLARD c/O SBA |
| Catch3dad |
Posted - 03/10/2011 : 13:28:59
quote:
Originally posted by Scorpion baseball academy
CATCH AND THROW................ I AGREE WITH YOU, TRAVEL BASEBALL ONE OF THE BEST WAYS KIDS LEARN TO PLAY THIS GREAT GAME WE LOVE,WE CAN SPEND A LOT OF MONEY AND TIME FOR LESSONS,THE BEST BATS,GLOVES,SHOES ECT.... NOTHING BEATS PLAYING AGAINST THE BEST.ITS THE ONLY WAY TO IMPROVE. SO WHAT IF MOTHER NATURE TAKES OVER AND CANCELLS A FEW GAMES. WE ALL KNEW THE RULES.CRYING ABOUT THE GATE FEES IS CRAZY. IF YOU DONT LIKE THE FEES GO BACK TO THE REC LEAGUES AND SEE WHAT YOU GET.
TRIPLE CROWN AND THE PEOPLE AT SLUGFEST DID A GREAT JOB TRYING TO BEAT MOTHER NATURE TO GET ALL THE GAMES IN
STEVE POLLARD C/O SBA
So if you have a kid playing Travel Baseball, you need to just shut up and take it? It's okay to be ripped off or at least taken advantage of if its by a TD or orgainozer for a Travel ball tournament? I don't agree.
No dog in the fight as they say. Didn't play in the Slugfest but parents for the most part are funding the teams and they have the right to vent and say their piece.
IMO, no right or wrong side top story but everyone has a right to complain if they choice.
The old "go back to Rec ball" agrument doesn't apply.
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| Scorpion baseball academy |
Posted - 03/10/2011 : 11:29:17
CATCH AND THROW................ I AGREE WITH YOU, TRAVEL BASEBALL ONE OF THE BEST WAYS KIDS LEARN TO PLAY THIS GREAT GAME WE LOVE,WE CAN SPEND A LOT OF MONEY AND TIME FOR LESSONS,THE BEST BATS,GLOVES,SHOES ECT.... NOTHING BEATS PLAYING AGAINST THE BEST.ITS THE ONLY WAY TO IMPROVE. SO WHAT IF MOTHER NATURE TAKES OVER AND CANCELLS A FEW GAMES. WE ALL KNEW THE RULES.CRYING ABOUT THE GATE FEES IS CRAZY. IF YOU DONT LIKE THE FEES GO BACK TO THE REC LEAGUES AND SEE WHAT YOU GET.
TRIPLE CROWN AND THE PEOPLE AT SLUGFEST DID A GREAT JOB TRYING TO BEAT MOTHER NATURE TO GET ALL THE GAMES IN
STEVE POLLARD C/O SBA |
| catch and throw |
Posted - 03/09/2011 : 22:01:32
Triple Crown by far the best run events around!Tony does a great job and imo is the best director in the state.People this is travel baseball, no one can predict the weather, and if you're worried about a 5dollar gate fee maybe you shouldn't play travel ball and go back to rec league where there is no fee! |
| 11UFAN |
Posted - 03/08/2011 : 23:46:02
Repost from 11U board:
Since so many on this thread think they got ripped off or disagree with the refund policy I thought I would play devil's advocate.
First of all, all teams know the weather risk, especially this time of year and the refund policy is clearly stated. If anyone feels that strongly about it they don't have to sign-up for the tournament. This goes under either the category "buyer beware" or "don't cry over spilled milk". A couple said the refund policy wasn't fair or implied that enforcing it is somehow wrong. They put the policy in the contract so that in the event there is a rainout everyone would know the financial consequences and from strictly a business perspective, that TC won't get left holding the bag.
Also, a portion of the money is going to charity. I am sure TC did not put alot of money (if any) in their pockets on this one. There are numerous expenses including pre-tournament expenses that have to be paid regardless of the number of games played. I am sure for a HUGE tournament like this one the fixed costs are very high. It wouldn't surprise me if they actually lost money on this one.
The posters on this message board are as tough (or tougher) on TD's and how tournaments are run than as they are about umpires making bad calls! Tony & Donny put on great tournaments, arguably the best in our state and they both are stand-up guys. There are several other good TD's out there, certainly many, many more good ones than bad ones.
This tournament was a big disappointment but let's not take it out on the organization that works so hard and puts out a great product like TC does. It sucks that teams had to fork over so much for one game, that everyone had to at least pay the admin fees and the ones I really feel sorry for are the folks that came from out of town. But at least some of this money went to a great cause. |
| Spartan4 |
Posted - 03/08/2011 : 23:18:08
I am at a loss for words, we have heard from Matt from USSSA and Tony all in one week!!!!! That almost never happens.... I think the main issue is the gate fee....Every team knew the refund policy, having said that I think Friday games should be a little different(not completely) as Friday games are often possible because coaches make a LOT OF EXTRA EFFORT to get their team to the park 3 days instead of 2...JMO |
| baseballpapa |
Posted - 03/08/2011 : 21:33:41
Guys, You all know that Papa is always the first one to show up with the rope to hang the culprit when the culprit needs to be hung. But in this case I feel that the best decisions that could be made were made concerning the Slugfest. The Slugfest Director or the Triple Crown Director does not direct "Mother Nature" as she has her own Director and he certainly knows what he is doing and why it is being done without any help from any of us.
If you would all just put on your thinking hat for just a minute and begin to add the uprfront costs that has to be spent to get the teams ready to get on the fields. The expenses for a tournament this size have got to be enormous. All of the teams are strapped for money this year and it hurts us all when we have to pay and not get all of our games in but please use your common horse sense and give these guys a break. They are the best that Papa has ever played for and I appreciate all of their hard work and effort but even they cannot and should not mess with Mother Nature.
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| oldschooldad |
Posted - 03/08/2011 : 18:03:36
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Originally posted by TripleCrownAdministrator
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Triple Crown did not take in any of the entry fees nor did they take in any of the gate fees that everyone is claiming in these posts. ALL CHECKS for the tournament were made out to FORSYTH COUNTY SLUGFEST and they controlled all money coming in. They are also responsible for all of the money that will be refunded back to the teams. Bill Moats and the Forsyth County Slugfest Committee decided to use our REFUND POLICY as a safety net long before we had any kind of weather. They have numerous expenses before any pitch is even thrown to start the tournament. Field costs, t-shirts, awards that were never used, paying Triple Crown (All of my time had to be compensated), all of their staff park people who had to work the fields, and the list goes on. This is all before any penny is given to the Charities that are involved. Many of you are seeing it through your tunnel vision of your team. Please understand "the whole picture" here!
Tony,
Once again you have stepped up to address the issues the Travel Community has with the recent Slugfest event. I respect that you always seem to "face the music" good or bad and don't shy away from any issues. KUDOS!!!!
IMO, the issue with the Slugfest and the refund policy is simpy this. The event was and always has been promoted as a charity event. The time and energy of the organizers and staff of the Slugfest is valuable and certainly has an assoicated cost. I hope however that many of the people involved were able to donate their time, energy, and resources to making the event happen. The cost or price of any event this size must be considerable. However, I have to believe that some (or much but not all) of the cost would be less than if the event was orgainized by TC or USSSA directly.
It is for that reason that IMO the Slugfest, a charity and not for profit group, should not adopt the strict refund policy of a for-profit business. Make some money for your event and the wonderful charity it supports but don't hide behind the charity aspect when folks have a gripe or concern about where their $$ goes.
-- I will step off my soap box now. 
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| bball-fan |
Posted - 03/08/2011 : 15:24:03
Don't worry, Tony. In a few weeks everyone will be complaining about the Super NIT: fields/umpires/rules/USSSA, etc. This won't be brought back up.  |
| itsbaseballtime |
Posted - 03/08/2011 : 15:21:29
Well said Peanutsr and Tony...
Tony, dont take comments on this board personally. Most that have not been involved with competitive travel baseball for very long Shoot First and Aim Second.
TC does a great job with ALL things it can control.
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| seminole tony |
Posted - 03/08/2011 : 14:57:41
Tony,
I really do appreciate all the work you do with organizing some of the better tournaments in Ga. I can't speak for anyone else just as a parent of a baseball child. I understand the cost of doing business and overheads, but before donating someone else's money to a very good cause, let each team make their own decisions. If I said donate your cost and have the slugfest donate their time and fields, you might feel as some of the teams that have lost lots of money. Gate fees should be pro-rated for for teams that played 1 game and full refunds to teams that never touched the fields. We are donating part of each teams entry fee already. Teams that played one game on Friday most likely did this to accommodate teams that could not play then, pro-rate their entry fee also. Pay the bills and take it as a lost evenly...Teams, Tournament Directors, Forsyth County. Keep everyone happy and coming back next year. Not doing it and you risk the chance of losing teams and the good name of the Slugfest.
The one most hurt will be the charities. Who do you think will take the blame for that??? No one will single out a team, it will come back on Triple Crown and Forsyth County. I think the charities will understand what has happened.
I am a business person and have donated heavily in the past to many charities but with the economy as it is now, people keep a closer eye on every dime. I have had to cut back on my donation because my sales have dropped and its just not available. I still do it but just not in the same amounts as in the past. The charities will tell you it has hit them the hardest. Expendable income is at a shortage right now. Stop all the negative reactions and comments now and make the teams feel that you are on their side.
Keep the Slugfests good name and do what I feel is the right thing. Again I'm only speaking as a parent and business person.
Thanks again for some great tournament and we will still participate in your events! |
| TripleCrownAdministrator |
Posted - 03/08/2011 : 13:21:53
TO ALL COACHES, PARENTS, AND FANS:
I have to stand up and explain how Triple Crown is involved with the Forsyth County Slugfest. I was approached by Bill Moats and asked if we would like to be involved with the 2011 Forsyth County Slugfest moving forward. Triple Crown Sports was estatic that we got the opportunity to be involved with such a great event that benefited the Miracle League and the Childrens Network. I was always jealous of the event because for so many years it was tied to our main competitor USSSA.
The deal we worked out with the Forsyth County people and Bill Moats, was that we would offer our services in return for a flat fee from the tournament expenses. Triple Crown responsibilites included keeping the WHO IS COMING list of teams updated daily (that was a major job itself), doing the full schedule for all 246 teams (that took a whole week!), organizing all 3 umpire groups involved and giving each one of them their schedules, to supplying a Triple Crown representative set up at each park for the weekend.
Triple Crown did not take in any of the entry fees nor did they take in any of the gate fees that everyone is claiming in these posts. ALL CHECKS for the tournament were made out to FORSYTH COUNTY SLUGFEST and they controlled all money coming in. They are also responsible for all of the money that will be refunded back to the teams. Bill Moats and the Forsyth County Slugfest Committee decided to use our REFUND POLICY as a safety net long before we had any kind of weather. They have numerous expenses before any pitch is even thrown to start the tournament. Field costs, t-shirts, awards that were never used, paying Triple Crown (All of my time had to be compensated), all of their staff park people who had to work the fields, and the list goes on. This is all before any penny is given to the Charities that are involved. Many of you are seeing it through your tunnel vision of your team. Please understand "the whole picture" here!
It was very unfortunate that we got rained out this weekend. I can tell you now, that no one wanted it to go off more than Bill Moats and the people of Forsyth County. His comment was "It was like breaking up with your hottest girl friend ever!" I laughed, but he was right. With 246 teams and one of the biggest shows on stage in the state of Georgia in 2011, it was heart breaking to watch the rain all day on Saturday! So before anyone on here wants to hang me or Bill, just understand all of the details involved and ask yourself "What kind of decisions would need to be made if you were faced with such a HUGE task???"
Thank you for reading this post and hopefully I brought some light to the issue!
Have a great 2011 spring baseball season!
Tony VonDolteren
GA Triple Crown Baseball |
| AllStar |
Posted - 03/08/2011 : 09:42:17
quote:
[i]:lots of words:
All great points. If I came off as ripping Triple Crown, it was unintentional. They were my favorite tournament organization to play for. Just logistically we got into some really bizarre situations that upon further review I wouldn't put my teams into again.
Not their fault.... |
| in_the_know |
Posted - 03/08/2011 : 09:16:59
Well said!
Also, don't lose sight of TC's relationship in the Slugfest. It is not their (TC's) tournament. It is an independent tournament that is first and foremost designated as a charity fundraising event. In the past, the Slugfest organizers utilized USSSA as the sanctioning body to organize and operate the tournament. Everyone complained about USSSA and the majority of suggestions were to eliminate USSSA and see if someone like Tony might come in and run the baseball portion of the event. Slugfest organizers listened to you and voila, TC comes in and makes the Slugfest look and feel just like a TC event (that most seem to prefer based on comments throughout this site). Now the weather washes the tournament and people upset with the refund policy (which wasn't a secret prior to anyone sending in their check) are looking for the highest tree from which to hang Tony.
I don't have any idea who set the tournament entry fee, determined that a gate fee would be collected, or if to adopt TC's refund policy or enact something slightly different with relation to the gate fee. I also don't know if Tony stood to make much money on this event or if he was paid a fixed, flat rate just to cover his expenses to organize and run the tournament. Frankly, I don't want to know, that is between he and the Slugfest. The bottom line is that Tony is due to be reimbursed for the cost of his time and travel. He also has opportunity cost lost, i.e., he could have stayed in Florida and run a for-profit TC event there or elsewhere this past weekend. Additionally, Slugfest has administrative costs to cover (T-shirts printed and not sold, fields, umps, etc). One thing is for certain, no one has gotten rich off any unrefunded gate fee or administration fee from this event.
Hopefully, after all this, there will still be some money left to donate to the true loser in this event, the Charities.
quote:
Originally posted by Peanutsr
It is amazinng to me to see everybody on here ripping Triple Crown as if their main goal in life is to fleece a bunch of travel baseball teams.
From the three years my son has been playing travel baseball I have seen similar situations with every sanctioning body out there, usually worse.
I have seen tournament directors put two teams on the field in pouring down rain, play an inning, call the game, wait two hours, put the next two teams on the field for one inning, call the game, until every team at least started their first game, and then cancel.
Running tournaments is a business. Triple Crown still has to pay all their employees travel expenses including hotels, food, mileage, plus salaries. They have to pay the venues, at least for one day. Umpires, administration fees.......
You can bet that nobody wanted this tournament to make more than Tony. Of all the tournament directors whose tournaments my son has played in, TC has always been the most fair, have done the best job of keeping the parents updated as to conditions, and has been the most reluctant to put kids on the field in adverse conditions.
If the tournament had been cancelled before the first games had been played you would have people on here complaining that the weather was ok Friday, and that games could have been played, and our team could have played somewhere else, how dare they cancel a tournament because of a forecast.
Bottom line is, until you have tried to organize something this large, you really don't know the costs involved. I would be willing to bet that Tony didn't make the killing that everybody seems to think he did. Every team entered the tournament knowing the risks involved with the weather and the rules concerning refunds. Yea, it stunk that the kids were looking forward to playing baseball and it didn't happen. Yea it stunk that some teams paid some money out of their budgets with little or no return. That is travel baseball.
Grabbing pitchforks and rakes to go after Triple Crown, while it may make people feel better in the short term, is really kind of counterproductive. Given the choice between TC and that other large sanctioning body out therwe, I'll take TC any day.
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| TAZ980002 |
Posted - 03/08/2011 : 09:12:37
quote:
Originally posted by Peanutsr
It is amazinng to me to see everybody on here ripping Triple Crown as if their main goal in life is to fleece a bunch of travel baseball teams.
From the three years my son has been playing travel baseball I have seen similar situations with every sanctioning body out there, usually worse.
I have seen tournament directors put two teams on the field in pouring down rain, play an inning, call the game, wait two hours, put the next two teams on the field for one inning, call the game, until every team at least started their first game, and then cancel.
Running tournaments is a business. Triple Crown still has to pay all their employees travel expenses including hotels, food, mileage, plus salaries. They have to pay the venues, at least for one day. Umpires, administration fees.......
You can bet that nobody wanted this tournament to make more than Tony. Of all the tournament directors whose tournaments my son has played in, TC has always been the most fair, have done the best job of keeping the parents updated as to conditions, and has been the most reluctant to put kids on the field in adverse conditions.
If the tournament had been cancelled before the first games had been played you would have people on here complaining that the weather was ok Friday, and that games could have been played, and our team could have played somewhere else, how dare they cancel a tournament because of a forecast.
Bottom line is, until you have tried to organize something this large, you really don't know the costs involved. I would be willing to bet that Tony didn't make the killing that everybody seems to think he did. Every team entered the tournament knowing the risks involved with the weather and the rules concerning refunds. Yea, it stunk that the kids were looking forward to playing baseball and it didn't happen. Yea it stunk that some teams paid some money out of their budgets with little or no return. That is travel baseball.
Grabbing pitchforks and rakes to go after Triple Crown, while it may make people feel better in the short term, is really kind of counterproductive. Given the choice between TC and that other large sanctioning body out therwe, I'll take TC any day.
Well said Peanutsr, I agree 100% |
| silvercityjon |
Posted - 03/08/2011 : 09:07:59
Well said and the truth though some want admit it!!!!
quote:
Originally posted by Peanutsr
It is amazinng to me to see everybody on here ripping Triple Crown as if their main goal in life is to fleece a bunch of travel baseball teams.
From the three years my son has been playing travel baseball I have seen similar situations with every sanctioning body out there, usually worse.
I have seen tournament directors put two teams on the field in pouring down rain, play an inning, call the game, wait two hours, put the next two teams on the field for one inning, call the game, until every team at least started their first game, and then cancel.
Running tournaments is a business. Triple Crown still has to pay all their employees travel expenses including hotels, food, mileage, plus salaries. They have to pay the venues, at least for one day. Umpires, administration fees.......
You can bet that nobody wanted this tournament to make more than Tony. Of all the tournament directors whose tournaments my son has played in, TC has always been the most fair, have done the best job of keeping the parents updated as to conditions, and has been the most reluctant to put kids on the field in adverse conditions.
If the tournament had been cancelled before the first games had been played you would have people on here complaining that the weather was ok Friday, and that games could have been played, and our team could have played somewhere else, how dare they cancel a tournament because of a forecast.
Bottom line is, until you have tried to organize something this large, you really don't know the costs involved. I would be willing to bet that Tony didn't make the killing that everybody seems to think he did. Every team entered the tournament knowing the risks involved with the weather and the rules concerning refunds. Yea, it stunk that the kids were looking forward to playing baseball and it didn't happen. Yea it stunk that some teams paid some money out of their budgets with little or no return. That is travel baseball.
Grabbing pitchforks and rakes to go after Triple Crown, while it may make people feel better in the short term, is really kind of counterproductive. Given the choice between TC and that other large sanctioning body out therwe, I'll take TC any day.
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| Bogart |
Posted - 03/08/2011 : 08:38:24
We played in three TC tournments in the fall and paid a gate fee at each one |
| rippit |
Posted - 03/08/2011 : 07:42:06
quote:
Originally posted by AllStar
quote:
Originally posted by Spartan4
I'm pretty sure we paid a gate fee at the last TC tourney at EC???? Did random people just put a table at every entrance?!?!?!?!?
I don't think so, but I could be wrong. We played in three TC tournaments last year and the one at ECB was the only one that we didn't pay a gate fee for.
From the TC website ~
ALL FACILITIES HOLD THE EXCLUSIVE RIGHTS TO CHARGE A GATE FEE. THESE ARE USED FOR THE FACILITY UPKEEP AND TRIPLE CROWN DOES NOT RECEIVE ANY COMPENSATION ON ANY GATE FEE CHARGED.
With the entry fees being $545, this team can't afford to run the risk of also having to pay a gate fee - the statement on their website is a little ambiguous to me... |
| Peanutsr |
Posted - 03/08/2011 : 07:15:06
It is amazinng to me to see everybody on here ripping Triple Crown as if their main goal in life is to fleece a bunch of travel baseball teams.
From the three years my son has been playing travel baseball I have seen similar situations with every sanctioning body out there, usually worse.
I have seen tournament directors put two teams on the field in pouring down rain, play an inning, call the game, wait two hours, put the next two teams on the field for one inning, call the game, until every team at least started their first game, and then cancel.
Running tournaments is a business. Triple Crown still has to pay all their employees travel expenses including hotels, food, mileage, plus salaries. They have to pay the venues, at least for one day. Umpires, administration fees.......
You can bet that nobody wanted this tournament to make more than Tony. Of all the tournament directors whose tournaments my son has played in, TC has always been the most fair, have done the best job of keeping the parents updated as to conditions, and has been the most reluctant to put kids on the field in adverse conditions.
If the tournament had been cancelled before the first games had been played you would have people on here complaining that the weather was ok Friday, and that games could have been played, and our team could have played somewhere else, how dare they cancel a tournament because of a forecast.
Bottom line is, until you have tried to organize something this large, you really don't know the costs involved. I would be willing to bet that Tony didn't make the killing that everybody seems to think he did. Every team entered the tournament knowing the risks involved with the weather and the rules concerning refunds. Yea, it stunk that the kids were looking forward to playing baseball and it didn't happen. Yea it stunk that some teams paid some money out of their budgets with little or no return. That is travel baseball.
Grabbing pitchforks and rakes to go after Triple Crown, while it may make people feel better in the short term, is really kind of counterproductive. Given the choice between TC and that other large sanctioning body out therwe, I'll take TC any day. |
| beanball |
Posted - 03/08/2011 : 06:45:42
In the past TC did not charge gate fees. There was always a charge @ ECB for TC that was collected by ECB and went into ECB's posckets. If you played TC at another venue there was no charge. Last Fall the folks at the Alpharetta American Legion started charging a gate & I'm sure it went in the Legions pocket. I never paid a gate @ Webb Bridge or any other TC location to my reccolection. |
| prestont |
Posted - 03/08/2011 : 06:08:39
quote:
Originally posted by Spartan4
I'm pretty sure we paid a gate fee at the last TC tourney at EC???? Did random people just put a table at every entrance?!?!?!?!?
Spartan - You are correct. At the TC Spring Frost a couple weeks ago, Tony & TC ran the event but the host team collected the gate as a team fundraiser. One of the parents on our team worked the gate since her older son plays for the team that was hosting the tournament. |
| jongamefan |
Posted - 03/08/2011 : 01:09:22
GMAN: Now your Talkin ' !!! Talk is cheap and actions speak .
quote:
Originally posted by G-Man
Its really very simple. If they dont refund...Dont sign up next year. I am amazed however that this event has gone on for several years and yet the powers that be seem to want to risk losing a lot of teams for next year for a little bit of money this year. This in its self tells me its about the money for them and not the charity or the kids. Actions always speak louder than words.
quote:
Originally posted by dgersh22
We at least had the opportunity to play two games on Friday night at a cost of $260.00 per game. Do I agree that they should get to keep my entire entry fee, most likely since we were able to play two games. I feel we should get back at least part of our gate fee.
My major complaint is how they let teams sign up for this tournament, we played a high AAA team/Low Major team in our second game that had no business playing in that division.
We will look hard before we return next year for those two reasons.
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